What makes a guy a "high value" client?

[lenharper]

I do think that someone in the thread hit it best when they mentioned the word "respect". I have had encounters with a couple of SP's that probably went well over time and the "value per dollar" index was probably pretty good (for me) but you know it doesn't matter. An encounter between a "john" and a "hooker" is a strange event. Two people who are quickly going to become intimate with each other and given that we never know who we are going to meet in any situation when we encounter a stranger, who knows what is going to happen. Now, no doubt, there are going to be SP's who step up there game if they are going to be seeing a regular, who wouldn't -- keep the loyal customer happy -- but sometimes there is going to be a connection that is strong and the fact that money being exchanged is, while not irrelevant, not the only consideration.

I can remember many details of the limited encounters I have had with SP's (not a big surprise because it is a rare event in my life) but what surprises me is that THEY can also remember them. Sure it is a business, I'm not idiot, but there are also times when there are moments of connection. When those happen they are indeed "high value".

 

[*Sven*]

Hey Huggzy,

You can increase your value to the ladies if you just mailed in the money & didn't show up for the session. They would LOVE you man. And they would ALL twitter to each other about how awesomely great you are. I would venture that they would even start accepting lower donations from you if you took this approach. You would become the HIGHEST value client ever. EVER! It's within your grasp man!

 

[huggzy]

But what you are asking is a detail of their business practice which most would consider proprietary information. Each lady has her own combination of menu items, pricing & scheduling which is how she chooses to run her business. Some of us have gotten something we think was special treatment from time to time, but really, who knows it it was because of who we are & not just the lady's mood at that point in time??

They've all pretty much told you (and mostly quite politely) that they are not going to reveal the information that you seek or even confirm that any special treatment for special clients occurs. Accept that & move on.

Interesting.

So what is the point of this board then?

 

[huggzy]

I was responding to lonely goer not you hugzy.
My god have you spent your whole day on here. I have not read asll the pages yet since I got off compter. Is your ass not sore from being on the computer all day. Is your question not answered yet. I will finish reading the rest.

Yeah...my ass is sick actually. In bed with the flu today :-(

 

[HB40]

And where in any of the posts did I imply that details of an SP's clients or sessions (inside or out) should be disclosed, or suggest that a client's expectations should be elevated?

Really?!? OK, but this is only from the first two pages, please don't make me quote every one of your posts. Pay special attention to the bolded parts, but really if you think about it, it's hard to realize what you are actually implying, sure it sounds good in your head but when you put it into words the interpretations can be varied. It's not your fault, it happens to everybody. Thats why I'm here on the board and reading threads, I just like to help out.

Of course we know that the politically correct answer for the ladies in this business would be to say that all clients are valued...but that's a given assumption so for fun lets not use that answer!

But if the guy's easy enough to provide for, what regularity (or revenue) is considered above "typical" where you might just go that extra mile for them, much like other businesses might do for their high valued clients?

You do value your regulars more - which is why you provide them discounted rates in exchange for volume if they come weekly...this is what I was getting at!

Some providers will do different types of extra things for their "valued" clients though. Some will always have your favorite drink stocked up. Others will just ignore the clock. Some throw in the odd freebie here and there. Some are just extra friendlier and put in that much more effort.

Its just a question. There's no ulterior, hidden agenda.

I never said that a guy should ask or expect freebies specifically. But some ladies do provide above and beyond for their clients in many cases (apparently not you though) and it would be nice to know what it takes to be percieved as a good enough client to see that extra service (the form of the "over and above" isn't necessarily the topic started, but I guess it would be nice to know what some girls do for their special clients), or maybe discounts, or something else.

But if a guy was spending $1,000/mth with you, are you saying that you wouldn't value him more than most guys? $3,000/mth? $10,000/mth? What is that threshold (if there is any?) where you as a provider might do more (ie. maybe work outside of your standard hours, or cook for the guy, or make him feel like a real "boyfriend" and look for ways to surprise him, or send him the odd text "thinking of him", etc.? I don't know...).

Do you have clients that are like that now? If you don't, would your business maybe improve for the better if you did start thinking about it a little more (maybe you might be losing high value clients because you might not consider it that much?)

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"Best efforts" is a subjective phrase. A person in any industry can always do better than their "standard" effort when providing a service, even if their standard service is outstanding. A gf in a relationship with a bf may always be a great girlfriend, but when she finds "the one" - you'd be surprised at how much more a person can do when motivated. Business relationships are no different, and I'd assume that everyone here recognizes that the relationships in the industry are business relationships.

Why is this concept so upsetting...I'm only asking what that threshold is (if any)?

 

[huggzy]

For us (the commodity really being sold on this board), we occasionally get a pooner (or a shill) will post a review of services purportedly rendered (or not). Generally pooners read the review to get an idea whether the typical services a specific SP is purported to provide is likely to be provided to you at a price point you're willing to risk.

Damn...I thought that I asked the question seeking this info...guess I got that wrong.

 

[Pillowtalk]

. Is your question not answered yet. .

It was answered in full on page one. But he does not like the answer, so keeps asking the same question. So through most every other page, the answer is given again. When he doesn't misinterpret what he is being told, then asks the question again. (example, Mme B says there is no "scale", and he in a post reply mentions this "scale" as tho she said that there is one lol.) It is pretty interesting to watch.

Consider, h, that your example is JPR, who you have never had a session with, yet you use her as an example for giving you "special" considerations? But at the same time, you ask or assume that sps give such "special" considerations in exchange from clients giving them MORE $$ than the next guy? I don't get it.

I don't think you can put a "number" on an intangible thing plus I am not sure why a nice sp extending a little bit of sunshine would create this question in you about how much it could possibly cost to get that from an sp all the time?

The only way to find out is repeat repeat repeat lol. Take the 400, spend it monthly, bimonthly or whatever, but on one sp only for at least 3 months, and come back and resurrect the thread. but if you are waiting for someone to tell you which sp is going to decide that your 400 is the right amount for her to give you all of her "extras" you will have a long wait, because as just about everyone here has told you (some of us more than once) that just does not happen. You get more from someone you visit more simply because she is more relaxed around you, knows you, and not because of how much you are spending.

I can bet you there are tons of guys out there who go and visit an sp regularly and spend more than 400, repeat often, stay longer, whatever, and do not receive any special extras. But they go back because they enjoyed what she does offer, and offered right from the start. And they may, all things being equal, not be more valuable to the sp than you, and the reason might be that they just come around too much lol. They take up a lot of time and energy, and she is just exhausted at the end of every visit and just waiting for the day he decides to try someone new lol.

 

[huggzy]

Really?!? OK, but this is only from the first two pages, please don't make me quote every one of your posts. Pay special attention to the bolded parts, but really if you think about it, it's hard to realize what you are actually implying, sure it sounds good in your head but when you put it into words the interpretations can be varied. It's not your fault, it happens to everybody. Thats why I'm here on the board and reading threads, I just like to help out.

And where in all that did I ask them to describe services? I was specifically asking the ladies how often, or how much a client needs to see them/spend on them, before they might consider a guy to be highly valued, and that another level of service above "typical" may be provided.

You're not much help at all. Your just a douche.

 

[huggzy]

It was answered in full on page one. But he does not like the answer, so keeps asking the same question. So through most every other page, the answer is given again. When he doesn't misinterpret what he is being told, then asks the question again. (example, Mme B says there is no "scale", and he in a post reply mentions this "scale" as tho she said that there is one lol.) It is pretty interesting to watch.

Consider, h, that your example is JPR, who you have never had a session with, yet you use her as an example for giving you "special" considerations? But at the same time, you ask or assume that sps give such "special" considerations in exchange from clients giving them MORE $$ than the next guy? I don't get it.

I don't think you can put a "number" on an intangible thing.

I think there were a grand total of three SP's who gave an answer, and implied that they provide the same service to their clients irrespectively. We all know (because many of us have experienced it) that this isn't necessarily the case with all, or even necessarily the majority of SP's. This may be the case for some, but not all.

We have also discussed the real possibility that SP's won't disclose this info even though we know this occurs because they don't want to upset douches like HB. I think that this is clearly more likely the case.

 

[HB40]

And where in all that did I ask them to describe services?
You're not much help at all. Your just a douche.

You didn't, you implied it, which is what you asked of me and I answered. You can't be helped.

 

[huggzy]

Nope, you were not asking for Typical services, you were asking how you might obtain exceptional services (and at times, specifically what those services might be). A bit of a difference there, but you just don't seem to be quite bright enough to grasp the subtleties of that difference...

"...at the price point you're willing to risk"

"Typical" for the price point being risked - the price being the variable. Not necessarily at the typical price - the price being fixed.

 

[huggzy]

I am going to copy this and make a comedy out of it.. lol this is entertainig.
Huggzy I am sorry you have the flu I hope you feel better soon.
The answer to your Question is really none of your god damn business how an SP runs her business. Now go drink some orange juice have some soup go to bed and sleep you might feel better tomorrow with a good nights sleep.

Please note you guys are all special you guys all get what your monies worth and have alot of fun, with me. No one I give you my word gets extra special treat ment for being a regular. If I am tipped that tip goes to charity.
Go to bed huggzy clear your head up.

Well then feel free to go your god damned merry way then.

It was a simple question. You don't have to answer if you don't want to. But you can stick your snarky comments up your ass.

 

[huggzy]

You didn't, you implied it, which is what you asked of me and I answered. You can't be helped.

I didn't imply anything and I explicitly stated that these were not to be implied. You chose to project implications yourself.

 

[HB40]

Well then feel free to go your god damned merry way then.

Simple question. You don't have to answer if you don't want to. But you can stick your snarky comments up your ass.

Unbelievable!

 

[HB40]

I didn't imply anything and I explicitly stated that these were not to be implied. You chose to project implications yourself.

Irrespectively, that is irrespective to the perspective.

 

[huggzy]

Unbelievable!

Yes, I know. Huggzy answered a snarky comment with a snarky comment.

 

[HB40]

Anybody miss Krustee? I sure do.

 

[huggzy]

Just PM / email / telephone the lady and say what you want & how much it is worth to you. She'll say yes, no or go f*** yourself & then you try with another lady. If you act like a putz with her, it won't matter how often you visit or how much you pay, what you get is all that you get. Why clutter up the board with questions that will not be answered in front of everybody here?

Why do you so vehemently oppose a guy asking this question?

 

[HB40]

I like butter pecan ice cream, just in case any ladies are thinking of doing something special for me.

 

[huggzy]

What I don't see with you is you looking at yourself and saying "what value/experience do I give the SP"? If you can only relate value to what you spend on someone, that sends a message to the SP of how you view who/what they are.

Guess I'm most interested in why you feel the need to see yourself as a "high value client". Reminds me when I go out to my local wine room how they always offer me a "VIP" card. Is that supposed to make me feel good about myself? Like i'm self important and superior to the rest of the people around me? You don't think that attitude isn't picked up by these women? Brother..these chicks know more about men & humans..than anyone else on this fucking planet.

I can't speak for the SP's on this forum but I'd say if you want to be considered a "high value client" start by treating them like humans beings..with respect and dignity. I'll bet you get it in return.

Fuck me...are you people retarded? I don't think of my own personal situation when I'm asking this question. I don't assume that the amount I can afford to spend would make any of these girls even blink.

I was asking the question out of curiousity to quantify how much, or how often, does a guy need to see a girl to make a girl "blink" - and motivate her to provide above her typical service ASSUMING THEY TREAT THE GIRL WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT TOO.