Protest the G20, wind up in a gulag

myselftheother

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Two things...

1. Cops ask you for ID...you have to give them your name. BUT....nothing else. You don't have to tell them anything more, and if they do, just ask them if you are to be unde arrest, and what for. And, if so, you want a lawyer immediatley.

2. If you become confrontational, cross a do-not-go line, most chance you're going to be busted. It was a security zone....

My question is, why aren't you there?
 

virginjohn

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You have not seen real oppression. By using the word gulag in the title you are cheapening the horrors of Stalin's gulags and disrespecting its many victims.

Also from snippets like:

In 2006, Alex Jones was detained for 15 hours by Canadian immigration on orders of the Bilderberg Group. “Customs openly told Alex as soon as they brought him into custody that the Bilderberg Group was aware of his arrival and that this was the reason for his detainment. All three members of the team were instantly detained despite going through different immigration desks,”
you can deduce that the writer of the article is a crackpot and a conspiracy theorist.
 

Pantherdash

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You have not seen real oppression. By using the word gulag in the title you are cheapening the horrors of Stalin's gulags and disrespecting its many victims.

Also from snippets like:



you can deduce that the writer of the article is a crackpot and a conspiracy theorist.
And this guy is also a crackpot because it's non other than...SILKY JOHNSON!

Panther
 

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You have not seen real oppression. By using the word gulag in the title you are cheapening the horrors of Stalin's gulags and disrespecting its many victims.

Also from snippets like:



you can deduce that the writer of the article is a crackpot and a conspiracy theorist.
So you think detaining a journalist, regardless of his views. For 15 hours is a good thing?

Why detain a harmless,non violent, no criminal record, conspiracy theorist for that long..............

Speaking of dishonoring the victims of Stalin. How about all the victims throught history of TYRANNY? Government is already out of control and you like it.
 

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I have been watching the news on CBC for the last half hour, and I have noticed that nobody in the media, nor the people they interview want to talk about what the protesters are there for, or who is causing the violence. In the mean time the G20 meeting becomes secondary to the protester story. It seems like a great diversionary tactic to me.
 

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You have a right to protest not riot and destroy other peoples things breaking windows and looting burning cars and anything else you come across, The police are there because all of this happens not because people are protesting but because 99/100 it ends with millions of dollars of damage and people in the hospital. Its sad that most of the protesters are in fact just protesting but there is ALWAYS a group of skidmarks who cause all the problems and then the police are always blamed because they have no real choice but to round up everyone and sort them out later.

First off protests that end in property damage should be paid by those protesting because it was caused by them, So how many protests will end in riots and property damage when those involved are given a $50,000+ bill each for the damage they caused ? Don't wanna pay or can't pay well then go to jail till society has been reimbursed for your jackassedness. If protests didn't end in millions of dollars of damage you wouldn't need to have fences and 5000 cops sent to help protect people from these protesters.
 

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international finance talks are basically talks about international free trade. the big unions believe that international free trade will hurt their dues revenue so they fund these protest groups behind the scenes. the protesters are basically ignorant of who their real handlers are but will willingly face the minor jail time they get for their chance to get a moment of what they see as fame

the talks go on unimpeded, the politicos get what they want because the voters are distracted by the protesters, the voters say 'what a bunch of lawless people those protesters are - damn good thing we got jails in this country', the cops get a workout and some overtime, the big unions lose some more dues revenue, we get more shit from china, our taxes go up, and when its all over we die. any more questions?

give thanks we have pooning
 
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Miss*Bijou

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Whether the politicians, the banks, the police or the public likes it or hates it, it is legal to protest and to demonstrate your dissent.

If SO much policing is needed due to the large amounts of protesters, wouldn't that make people think that MAYBE there might be something worth protesting about in the first place? Wouldn't it make people wonder WHY Canada is spending an INSANE amount of money on this....(The security price tag is around $1 billion, and some predict the total summit cost will surpass $2 billion.) ?


Hello? Excuse me...... but WTF?




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Really? This is Canada?
Big thumbs down.



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And just a suggestion...but you might want to check out other sources to get your "news"..



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There are lots of Canadian sites as well.
http://www.lib.sfu.ca/help/publication-types/alternative-news
http://www.j-source.ca/english_new/
http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/



But I don't think CBC or any other mainstream news is where you'll get a fair and unbiased picture. Just look anywhere else and you'll get a much more different view of what's going on.


http://g20.torontomobilize.org/





 

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Was this thread started before those punks started burning police cars? I hope they get the beating of their lives, and are never allowed to come back into Canada again.

This isn't about freedom of speech, and if you bleeding hearts still believe that, then I've got a steel-towed jack boot for your ass.

Have a nice day
 

specialty69

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The minute, the violence and vandalism started, the police should just go ahead and start tasering their asses to back where they came from.
 

Steez

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The minute, the violence and vandalism started, the police should just go ahead and start tasering their asses to back where they came from.
Unless ofcourse those anarchists just happen to be undercover police. They did it in 2006 in Montebello ,Que.

Heres the ADMISSION. The officers were performing there duty. Just think about that for one second. Dressing up like anarchists to give police the reason they need to shut down protesting because it gets violent. Are we in Soviet Russia or Canada?
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/08/23/police-montebello.html

Heres the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce5GZQbb1pQ
 

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So you think detaining a journalist, regardless of his views. For 15 hours is a good thing?

Why detain a harmless,non violent, no criminal record, conspiracy theorist for that long..............

Speaking of dishonoring the victims of Stalin. How about all the victims throught history of TYRANNY? Government is already out of control and you like it.
The bullshit about the arrest being ordered by the Bilderberg group destroyed all the credibility the writer had with me. Alex Jones (the man your article claims to be arrested for 15 hours) is a talk radio host and filmmaker not a professional journalist. He was detained for 4 hours not 15! Link: http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=f67cbe75-4eed-4daf-877e-189e52d1f33c&k=12919 (emphasis added):

Canadian authorities detained an American activist filmmaker at the Ottawa airport late Wednesday night, confiscating his passport, camera equipment and most of his belongings.

Citizenship and Immigration Canada agents stopped Alex Jones, whose films include Martial Law 9/11: The Rise of the Police State, and questioned him for nearly four hours before letting him go with only one change of clothes and telling him to return Thursday morning.

“It’s really chilling, like a police state,” said Mr. Jones of his detention.

Mr. Jones and his crew, camera operators Ryan Schlickeisen and Aaron Dykes, travelled to Canada to film a documentary about the Bilderberg group, a secretive group of former politicians and business leaders who are meeting in Ottawa this week.

A Citizenship and Immigration representative said that her department was unable to comment on Mr. Jones’ detention.

“As a result of the privacy act, we are forbidden from discussing individual cases,” said Marina Wilson, spokesperson for the department. “I’m not aware of this ... (detention) is at the discretion of our visa officers.”

Mr. Jones said that he and the agents had reconciled prior to his release.

“I want to say, on the record, it takes two to tango. I could have handled it better.”
 

Miss*Bijou

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Guardian journalist Jesse Rosenfeld beaten and arrested by Toronto police at G20
By Kim Elliott | June 27, 2010


A journalist on assignment for The Guardian newspaper was arrested and beaten by police officers at the site of a peaceful demonstration on The Esplanade near the G20 security fence in downtown Toronto at approximately 11:00PM on June 26, 2010. Having been punched in the stomach and elbowed in the back by officers, it is believed that Jesse Rosenfeld, a 26-year-old writer from Toronto, was then taken to the temporary detention facility on Eastern Avenue in Toronto.

Rosenfeld had already filed a story for The Guardian, the United Kingdom-based newspaper founded in 1821, but was not able to receive media accreditation as the RCMP had dragged its heels through the accreditation process. However, Rosenfeld clearly identified himself to police as a journalist.

Steve Paiken, the Gemini-nominated TVOntario personality who has also covering the protest via Twitter witnessed the incident. The following are Paiken’s tweets journaling the arrest and beating:

“they repeated they would arrest me if i didn't leave. as i was escorted away from the demonstration, i saw two officers hold a journalist.”
https://twitter.com/spaikin/status/17137794505

“the journalist identified himself as working for "the guardian." he talked too much and pissed the police off. two officers held him....”
https://twitter.com/spaikin/status/17137826780

“a third punched him in the stomach. totally unnecessary. the man collapsed. then the third officer drove his elbow into the man's back.”
https://twitter.com/spaikin/status/17137863106

“the officer who escorted me away from the demo said, "yeah, that shouldn't have happened." he is correct. there was no cause for it.”
https://twitter.com/spaikin/status/17137918390

the demonstration on the esplanade was peaceful. it was like an old sit in. no one was aggressive. and yet riot squad officers moved in.
https://twitter.com/spaikin/status/17138017712

Rosenfeld’s family is livid that police would violate the rights of anyone but especially a journalist on assignment, and are supporting Jesse in this matter. Rosenfeld's father, Mark, is available for comment, as is Jesse's girlfriend and fellow journalist Carmelle Wolfson. Rosenfeld will be available for comment following his release.
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/rab...jesse-rosenfeld-beaten-and-arrested-toronto-p








Live blog: Sunday, June 27

5:00 a.m.

Number of arrests rises to 300

Const. Tim Garland has confirmed that the number of people arrested has risen to about 300 this morning.

From Fabiola Carletti

4:08 a.m.

Protesters say they were boxed in, intimidated

The police have been intimidating and arresting peaceful protesters, claim organizers at the Toronto Community Mobilization Network's convergence space.

Several activists have shared eyewitness accounts with volunteers at the space, which is located at 1266 Queen St. W., where their testimonies are being compiled and offered as counter-narrative to police version of events.

Claudia Calabro, a media liaison person, spoke to the Star about one early morning incident outside of the holding cell at 629 Eastern Ave.

She says protesters had peacefully gathered to show solidarity with the activists being held inside the building between 12:30 a.m. and 1:30 a.m Sunday. The group danced, banged drums and called out to those inside.

At around 1 a.m. they were boxed in by police in riot gear after being given an ultimatum: leave within 20 minutes or face arrest.

"This feeds into the intimidation tactics," she said, "if you say they have to go and don't let them, you're stressing them out that way."

Calabro said the police finally let the activists go with about five minutes to spare, but added that 30 of the roughly 200 participants were soon boxed in again and arrested, even through they had not been violent.

The Star's Henry Stancu also witnessed the incident, and he independently verified most of the activists' narrative, including that estimate that the 30 were surrounded by roughly 100 police officers.

He added, however, that the smaller group had only moved slightly eastward before reconvening.

He could not verify Calabro's reports that police had been shoving and intimidating the activists inside the circle.

The 30 were searched, photographed and arrested.

Jen Gearey, a spokesperson for the ISU, said that it is too soon for police to comment on individual events as they are dealing with several active incidents around the city.

From Fabiola Carletti

http://thestar.blogs.com/g20/
 

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I have read almost every book that Noam Chomsky has written on American foreign policy, but unfortunately I have lost a lot of respect for him over the last few years. At the end of each book/lecture he urges the public to get involved in the political process and challenge the status quo. Yet on the most critical event of our time, investigating 9/11, he tells people to look the other way, there's nothing to see here folks! As the unofficial spokesperson for the left I see him as part of the problem rather then part of the solution. He continues to push foreign policy issues, but won't touch domestic issues, which are the crux of the problem, and the reason why certain things that the left could expose will continue to be covered up.
 

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Why on earth would anyone protest the G20 gathering anyway? Those people really DO have our best interests at heart, you know. They are benevolent stewards of capitalism who truly only want what's best for all of us and not simply for the elite few who you might mistakenly think stand to benefit most from their actions or, just as often, nonactions.

Wow! I almost managed to type that with a straight face.

Every year every politician everywhere should be given a public flogging just as an annual reminder of who the hell it is they work for: the people who elected them rather than lobbyists and special interests who own their pathetic asses.
 

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No quotes and no crap.

Simply put if people wish to protest in a peacefull non-violent way to let their message be heard then fine.

If people wish to cause destruction/mayhem and have no intention of peacefull protest and have no message to get across and are intending only to commit crimes and property damage....then tear gas/mace the fuckers....crack em upside the head with truncheons etc.These people deserve no mercy IMO as they are human scum.They care not for the costs that their actions cause to others.They are not there to protest they are there for wanton destruction and should face the full prosecution of the law and all the force that is required to maintain public order and to protect property from these assholes.

SR
 

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Like I said before if you want to protest peacefully there is no problems at all with police but protests ALWAYS end in property damage because of riots and vandalism. The whole reason there is security fences and 5000+ cops assigned to the G20 is because of this crap. They planned for it and prepared for it and look it all happened yet people here are saying bla bla bla we live in russia and police are nazis bla bla bla. The biggest thing about this is that we the taxpayers pay $1 friggin billion for something as democratic as a leader summit and with millions of dollars in vandalism and destruction hundreds of arrests and the law might as well give them a hummer since they will never get any real punishment. FINE these retards for the millions of dollard of damage they cause, WHY do we the taxpayers again have to pay for them being complete douchbag skidmark waste of skins. Make the ones who cause the damage pay for all the damage they cause, Pay or stay like with traffic tickets your portion of the 50 million in damage is 100,000 pay up or take 10 years that will make these retards think twice before wrecking the stuff we work hard to have.
 

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The bullshit about the arrest being ordered by the Bilderberg group destroyed all the credibility the writer had with me. Alex Jones (the man your article claims to be arrested for 15 hours) is a talk radio host and filmmaker not a professional journalist. He was detained for 4 hours not 15! Link: http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=f67cbe75-4eed-4daf-877e-189e52d1f33c&k=12919 (emphasis added):
They were questioning him if he was there to cover the Bilderberg meeting.......for 15 hours. Not 4.............
 
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