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I'm trying very hard not to make any judgements before I hear more details but I'd love to hear the rationalization for this.
Anyone out on the West Coast know any details of this?

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/canada/2011/01/31/17097651.html
It doesn't get any better the more you know. The Whistler tour company was in "partnership" with the person who murdered the dogs - the company was called Howling Kennels. I used the term murder as the BC SPCA said it was the most accurate given the methods used. The Whistler tour operator said they had no operational control over the dogs just a small ownership stake. If you want more detials on the actual killings head to the Vancouver Sun or CKNW news. The most unbelievable part - the dog killer has submitted a WCB claim for PTSD which appears may have been approved :(
 

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I'm trying very hard not to make any judgements before I hear more details but I'd love to hear the rationalization for this.
Anyone out on the West Coast know any details of this?

http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/canada/2011/01/31/17097651.html
The rational was that they couldn't afford to feed them and no one would accept them when they tried to give em away. I have to guess they didn't try very friggin hard. The guy who actually did the deed could have said no way Jose.........instead he murdered 100 dogs and then claimed he needed compensation for PTS -
 

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That's really disgusting.

But why has the news of 6 million + animals (pigs, cows & chickens & ducks) being dumped into a pit and buried alive - not as tragic as to get the same level (or any at all) of attention and concern? I know, none of the big, mainstream media have bothered to report on it. Makes ya wonder how many other similar mass killings never get anyone's attention either.

The fact that people involved suffer from PTSD and emotional distress makes it hard to argue against how wrong, unethical, immoral and purely evil things go unpunished for the sake of profit.


100 dogs .. is inexcusable and unacceptable.


But ignoring...

Over 6 million = Buried alive since November 2010 !!!

2 million pigs
+ 4 million birds
+ unknown number of cows, sheep, goats and deers.
+ 60 dogs

==> Around 100,000 animals have been buried alive every day <==


.... is unconscionable!


And if you're going to get angry and upset over the 100 dogs (as you should), you should be just as upset, if not more, over this as well. Buried alive ffs!









If that doesn't make you feel ashamed to be part of a species that can justify and support this kind of killing - not sure what will!








The Massacre Needs Attention

There are times when innocent animals must be killed for disease control purposes. The month of December was a massacre in the name of quarantine operations. Countless civil servants, people from animal protection authorities, and farm owners say they are still suffering from hallucinations of pigs squealing and mother pigs struggling to protect their piglets as they were being buried alive.

For nearly a month countless pigs have been dumped alive into vinyl-covered pits in remote hills and fields after it was discovered that pigs are to blame for FMD, also known as Foot-and-Mouth disease. According to the Ministry for Food, Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries 농림수산식품부, so far approximately 1.5 million pigs and cows have been slaughtered. What is upsetting many people is that the authorities are burying the animals alive, violating domestic and international laws on animal slaughter.

According to domestic and international laws on the killing of animals for disease control, they must be killed before burial. Authorities say the regulation is dangerous, as the disease spreads instantly and there isn’t the time to accomplish death and burial separately. They have added that euthanasia is not an option since large doses are required and there is no time to give an injections to each animal. Therefore, they claim they had no other option than to slaughter hundreds of animals each day.

Is the statement simply an excuse made by the government? The law states quarantine workers must kill animals in a proper way by using poisonous gas and drugs before burying them. Animal groups are refuting the statement. They say the excavators push two to three pigs into the pits at a time. Since the pigs tend to try to escape, the slowly-moving excavators need to repeat the pushing three or four times. Logically the drug option would take less time than the pushing operation.

Interestingly, the government has been pushing the live burial of animals since 2000, when FMD first broke out in Korea. Surprisingly, the government has no problem ignoring the guidelines. It is undeniably true that the government is not coming up with any punitive measures against the breach of laws forbidding live burials. International animal rights groups are denouncing the nation’s culling method and demanding the Korean government works in strict accordance with international animal welfare guidelines.

Although the live burials are banned by the law, there is no exact punishment set to deter those violating the law. With government authorities continuing to bury animals alive, it is only a matter of time before the illegal and inhumane cruelty will contaminate the environment. Unfortunately, countless animals that do not yet have the disease are killed along with the diseased because they are in the vicinity of infected animals. Is such preventive slaughter effective? Is there no solution to put the break on such massacres? Can’t they be vaccinated? It seems the government doesn’t have the will to care for the little fellows since they will end up on the dinner table at one point or another anyway.

http://edu.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/01/25/2011012501665.html






Pigs burial raises concerns over water contamination

Is it a curse if animals get buried alive?

Residents of a village hit by food-and-mouth disease (FMD) in Paju, Gyeonggi Province, have seen their faucets start to deliver water mixed with blood since the beginning of the New Year.

This eerie situation, first reported last Saturday, came just one day after some of nearly 1,000 pigs within a 500-meter radius of an FMD-hit livestock farm were buried alive in the village’s vicinity to prevent further spread of the deadly animal disease.

Quarantine officers claim the situation is temporary and things will soon return to normal, while many experts are skeptical, insisting that blood from the buried animals will gradually soak into the ground to eventually contaminate underground water reservoirs, a major source of drinking water for the villagers.

The authorities said the slaughtered animals were buried in a 4-5 meter-deep hole covered by two-fold vinyl to keep anything from their bodies from leaking out.

But it’s uncertain whether the vinyl would remain intact if they had been buried alive.

“It’s possible that the vinyl could be torn by animals struggling to survive,” a quarantine officer said.

The ministry admits the buried animals could become a major culprit leading to serious contamination of water resources and the soil around burial sites. But it said this is not the case — as yet.


Btw the killing of perfectly healthy animals and the spreading of disease used to justify it, were totally preventable if animals had been vaccinated. Why did they not start vaccinating before 6 million animals were buried alive? It's all about the $.









But the use of vaccines is still limited for fear that wider use could put local beef dealers at a disadvantage in exporting their products.


... Although I'm not really sure how allowing the spreading of foot-and-mouth disease is expected the put local beef dealers at an advantage!?










Gov't admits faults in FMD countermeasures

Slack monitoring and belated quarantine measures were the main factors behind the nationwide spread of foot-and-mouth disease (FMD), the authorities said Tuesday, acknowledging for the first time that their initial mismanagement of the otherwise controllable virus resulted in enormous damage to the country.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/01/117_80328.html


Disgusting is a huge understatement. It makes me sick to my stomach.



 

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I dont agree with the dog killing or abuse period. In no way to i agre to it.

However i also dont respect this person in any way... Yes he came clean, yes told what the employer "made" him do.... But he had a choice... He had his own mind..brain... However he claims he is distraught and stressed becuz of this... He caused pain and suffering to those animals... He should suffer for the rest of his life...

Those dogs dont get compensation or a second chance in life... Why should he?
 

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miss bijou, its you're turn for a hug today

aww thanks. Doesn't it disturb you to read about and see horrific images of the pain and (I am having difficulty finding appropriate words to even describe it and none are strong enough to describe my feelings about this) extreme cruelty? I can't understand how people can not react strongly to images and stories like these. It's not a reproach or an attack at all, I'm just genuinely unable to conceive being only mildly affected or not bothered at all and I wonder what it is that provokes such different reactions. It just doesn't make any sense to me that a person could have no moral issue with being responsible for making such a barbaric decision - or with actually executing it, physically carrying out the killings.


I do agree with others' comments: the employees who are claiming ptsd should not be excused because now, after the fact, they regret their actions. The bottom line is they chose to do the killing, while most people would have refused, regardless of the fact that it was asked by our employers. They could have easily refused to do it and how could they not be aware that it was an option? If it had been humans instead of dogs, would they have done it - simply because they were told to by their employer?

Morally, there is no difference. The only difference is that they would be in jail and no one would even consider them victims who only did what they were asked to by their employer! We'd all know that the fact that they would actually KILL because asked makes them murderers. There should be no difference and whoever chose to do this is fully responsible and should be punished as we would want them punished if the victims were human. A life is a life, a murderer is a murderer. A normal person could never kill 1 dog, watch it die and then proceed to do the same thing another 99 times!
 

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It's not only that he killed the dogs, it's the way he killed them. Cruel doesn't even begin to cover it.

So it would have been acceptable to kill them in a non-cruel way? What qualifies as non-cruel way to kill? Euthanasia? Are there other non-cruel ways to kill?

Regardless, I do believe it's awful that they were killed in a cruel way. But I think it's just as awful they were killed, period. There's no justification for killing a healthy animal; most vets will refuse to euthanise a healthy animal, even if people think it;s too "old". An animal wants to live, it doesn't want to die anymore than you or I do and it has a right to live.

If I killed a person, but I made sure I did it in a non-cruel way, that would be more acceptable? I disagree. But I realize most people believe other animals do not deserve the consideration reserved only for humans and it's unlikely most people will consider seeing any other way. It doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
 

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That's really disgusting.

But why has the news of 6 million + animals (pigs, cows & chickens & ducks) being dumped into a pit and buried alive - not as tragic as to get the same level (or any at all) of attention and concern? I know, none of the big, mainstream media have bothered to report on it. Makes ya wonder how many other similar mass killings never get anyone's attention either.

The fact that people involved suffer from PTSD and emotional distress makes it hard to argue against how wrong, unethical, immoral and purely evil things go unpunished for the sake of profit.


100 dogs .. is inexcusable and unacceptable.


But ignoring...

Over 6 million = Buried alive since November 2010 !!!

2 million pigs
+ 4 million birds
+ unknown number of cows, sheep, goats and deers.
+ 60 dogs

==> Around 100,000 animals have been buried alive every day <==


.... is unconscionable!


And if you're going to get angry and upset over the 100 dogs (as you should), you should be just as upset, if not more, over this as well. Buried alive ffs!









If that doesn't make you feel ashamed to be part of a species that can justify and support this kind of killing - not sure what will!




















Btw the killing of perfectly healthy animals and the spreading of disease used to justify it, were totally preventable if animals had been vaccinated. Why did they not start vaccinating before 6 million animals were buried alive? It's all about the $.













... Although I'm not really sure how allowing the spreading of foot-and-mouth disease is expected the put local beef dealers at an advantage!?














Disgusting is a huge understatement. It makes me sick to my stomach.



Thats fucking horrible. Individual euthanizing is impractical but they could have at least gassed them or something. Serial killers are killed more humanely.
 

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That's really disgusting.

But why has the news of 6 million + animals (pigs, cows & chickens & ducks) being dumped into a pit and buried alive - not as tragic as to get the same level (or any at all) of attention and concern? I know, none of the big, mainstream media have bothered to report on it. Makes ya wonder how many other similar mass killings never get anyone's attention either.

The fact that people involved suffer from PTSD and emotional distress makes it hard to argue against how wrong, unethical, immoral and purely evil things go unpunished for the sake of profit.


100 dogs .. is inexcusable and unacceptable.


But ignoring...

Over 6 million = Buried alive since November 2010 !!!

2 million pigs
+ 4 million birds
+ unknown number of cows, sheep, goats and deers.
+ 60 dogs

==> Around 100,000 animals have been buried alive every day <==


.... is unconscionable!


And if you're going to get angry and upset over the 100 dogs (as you should), you should be just as upset, if not more, over this as well. Buried alive ffs!









If that doesn't make you feel ashamed to be part of a species that can justify and support this kind of killing - not sure what will!




















Btw the killing of perfectly healthy animals and the spreading of disease used to justify it, were totally preventable if animals had been vaccinated. Why did they not start vaccinating before 6 million animals were buried alive? It's all about the $.













... Although I'm not really sure how allowing the spreading of foot-and-mouth disease is expected the put local beef dealers at an advantage!?














Disgusting is a huge understatement. It makes me sick to my stomach.



Miss Bijou, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I had never even heard of this Horror! The more people that know about it the better.

It's shit like this that makes me lose hope for humanity. A species as FUCKED UP as we are just can't possibly survive in the long run in this universe if there is any good in it.

And the really sad part is, in the end we're going to end up doing this to each other. Really, it's already been happening for centuries hasn't it? It's called war and we glorify it. We're just too sick!
 

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Thats fucking horrible. Individual euthanizing is impractical but they could have at least gassed them or something. Serial killers are killed more humanely.
Miss Bijou, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I had never even heard of this Horror! The more people that know about it the better.

It's shit like this that makes me lose hope for humanity. A species as FUCKED UP as we are just can't possibly survive in the long run in this universe if there is any good in it.

And the really sad part is, in the end we're going to end up doing this to each other. Really, it's already been happening for centuries hasn't it? It's called war and we glorify it. We're just too sick!

Please fill out the form to send an email to Stephen Harper and Minister of International Trade, Peter Van Loan, asking that they denounce the Korean government's actions and halt all agricultural trade with South Korea until the government implements a vaccination program and ensures that any necessary euthanizations are conducted humanely.

It takes 30 seconds.. Thanks!
 

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Please fill out the form to send an email to Stephen Harper and Minister of International Trade, Peter Van Loan, asking that they denounce the Korean government's actions and halt all agricultural trade with South Korea until the government implements a vaccination program and ensures that any necessary euthanizations are conducted humanely.

It takes 30 seconds.. Thank!
Thanks Miss Bijou, I will, and I have. It's easy. Thanks again Miss Bijou. It's people like you who give me hope.
 

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Thanks Miss Bijou, I will, and I have. It's easy. Thanks again Miss Bijou. It's people like you who give me hope.
ditto - thanks Bijou
 

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Please fill out the form to send an email to Stephen Harper and Minister of International Trade, Peter Van Loan, asking that they denounce the Korean government's actions and halt all agricultural trade with South Korea until the government implements a vaccination program and ensures that any necessary euthanizations are conducted humanely.

It takes 30 seconds.. Thanks!
Done.
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Miss Bijou, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I had never even heard of this Horror! The more people that know about it the better.

It's shit like this that makes me lose hope for humanity. A species as FUCKED UP as we are just can't possibly survive in the long run in this universe if there is any good in it.

And the really sad part is, in the end we're going to end up doing this to each other. Really, it's already been happening for centuries hasn't it? It's called war and we glorify it. We're just too sick!
To be fair, they're not burying these animals for fun or anything, it's because they've been exposed to "foot and mouth" disease. If it does spread, those animals will die a very agonizing death.

As for the 100 dogs that were killed.... that's somewhat of a different matter, since those were 100% completely healthy animals and probably from good pedigrees too. If they just "marketed" the dogs as well obedient pets, from a good lineage and part of the Olympics... and for more or less free, people around the world would have been swarming to get them.
 

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To be fair, they're not burying these animals for fun or anything, it's because they've been exposed to "foot and mouth" disease. If it does spread, those animals will die a very agonizing death.


ok so how is being buried alive any less agonizing????? that would be one of the worst ways to go man. im not all agreeing with we should not kill at all, im mean i do like my beef still (i know this may sound stupid ok, but i dont want to debate it either) but jeez there's got to be a better way to kill them ( gas them??) something way quicker anyways. these people really are fucked up, it does make me sad to hear as well.
 

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So much for Buddhist ethics.
 
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