Video Cameras in Massage Parlours....

[looking4alady]

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As we all know, for the sake of the girls working in a MP, security is a concern and certain steps must be taken.

Recently in my travels, I have noticed that some of the studios have video cameras in quite obvious places. I know of one studio that has a video camera on the outside of the building, so that when you drive up, they can see you coming (and leaving). I know of another studio that has a camera sitting up in the corner of the room when you immediately walk through the door (there's no way to avoid it). I do know that the girls in this studio will use the camera to "pick and choose" who they want to serve, so if you ask to see both girls on duty, you may only get to see one as the other one's supposedly "busy". These are just two studios and I'm sure that there are more examples out there.....

The points I would like to raise are....what about the respect and privacy of the customer coming to the MP? Are not the rights to his privacy being violated? What's to say that a MP would not use this video to blackmail a client, if a girl wanted to get back at a guy.

Yes, there are bad "dates" out there and security precautions must be taken...but there lies the possibility (and likelihood) of there being sp's who may go astray to find out who they are dealing with...what's to say an mp would not search up a customer to find out more about him ???

Interested in what the forum has to say........from both sides of the fence.......

 

[Naughty Nadia]

Well having worked briefly in a couple of MP, I have to say I felt a lot safer having a camera at the door. Unlike making an appt with an indy, you have NO idea who's going to come in the door. We had drunks, people on drugs, and street people wander in sometimes. Some of whom were very belligerent.

I do identify with your privacy concerns, and while I've never gotten the sense the MP would have any interest in finding out more about a client, I suppose it could happen.

Think how many customers pay with a credit card though. That says a lot more about you than a grainy image on a camera. Not only that, an owner of a MP has a LOT to lose. Licenses aren't cheap, and it costs a fortune to set up (a good one anyways I can't see they could afford to become embroiled in something that could cause them to lose all that. Who knows though, I don't have a devious mind, so I could be wrong.

I for one have no problem with a camera. Don't forget, OUR faces are on those cameras too, and could be used against us just as easily. Both people are engaging in something risky, just depends to what level your privacy needs are. Just my thoughts on it.

 

[Sonny]

Many MPs have security cameras; some cameras are quite obvious and others are not. The key word is 'security', both of the employees and of the customers. That is also why entrance doors are locked and you need to be let in.

There is no privacy issue, unless you are the cause for the security camera being there in the first place. No one is interested in telling the world that you frequent a massage parlour. Be comfortable with what you are doing, and your worry will vanish.

MPs are not the only type of entertainment business that uses security cameras. They are everywhere.

 

[hotrod69]

I have no problem with security caneras per say, but don't the premises required by law to post promenant warning sign outside the premsises to the effect that you are entering these premises under video surveillance? At least with the warning sign, one has a choice of doing business in these premises or not.

Naughty Nadia, you said your face is in the camera too, but I ask you who has the camera? According to you logic, then I could bring a digital camera and take picture of you and me or me with other SPs.

Hey Sonny, if there is no privacy issue, may be you should get strip search concealed weapons before you enter MPs for their added security and you shouldn't object unless you plan something bad for the SPs.

 

[georgebushmoron]

I fully support security cameras, even in the rooms. It is because I believe the SP's protection and security are the most paramount concerns. What's to stop some psychopath from taking a girl into a room and knifing her to death? He walks out and drives off. It's possible only the receptionist would have seen him, especially in those MPs where only a few girls work. Sickos like that are so into the thrill of it, they don't think about getting caught.

As for the regular pooner, I frankly don't care too much if I am recorded. So if they see that I paid a girl for having sex... what's really the worst that can come of it? My personal situation is now no longer that if I got caught doing something like that, I'd be deported back to the US.

Anyway, I'd be grateful for a copy of the video. Hell, it'd make pretty good porn!

 

[ReluctantPooner]

Don't park nearby, pay with cash, etc etc. They won't be able to find out anything else about you.

I would hope that all tapes would be destroyed/recorded over after 30 days.

 

[Naughty Nadia]

QUOTE: Naughty Nadia, you said your face is in the camera too, but I ask you who has the camera? According to you logic, then I could bring a digital camera and take picture of you and me or me with other SPs.

I certainly never had access to video logs. My logic is, a MP has FAR more information on me than they could on you. Application forms with your real name, photocopies of your drivers license and birth certificate etc. This is for the owners protection to prove your not underage etc. If I ever wanted to run for office, that could certainly be used against me *said with tongue firmly in cheek*

 

[Sonny]

IHey Sonny, if there is no privacy issue, may be you should get strip search concealed weapons before you enter MPs for their added security and you shouldn't object unless you plan something bad for the SPs.

No one is interested in telling the world that you frequent a massage parlour. Be comfortable with what you are doing, and your worry will vanish.

In the context of the original post by lookingforalady, he was concerned about his identity as a customer of a MP. MPs have no interest in compromising his privacy. The security cameras are for protection only and as Shiek said, they are looped.

If someone still feels uncomfortable then certainly they should take their business elsewhere.

I guess you object to pat-downs at Vancouver dance clubs as well, hotrod69. A few more lives lost by abandoning that practice would be okay, in the pursuit of privacy?

No need to escalate the discussion into 'strip searches' - hyperbole rarely assists debate.

 

[Sonny]

Recently three big guys (one white, one Chinese, one EI) come in and try to hold up this MP, threatening with a can of bear spray. These rank amateurs leave with nothing but their images are caught on security camera which are forwarded to the police.

 

[looking4alady]

In that situation where there are "strongarm" tactics being employed (as mentioned above), I totally agree with the use of a video camera.

I do agree that cameras are a part of society, and for the most part, I don't think that people care if they are seen on a camera (e.g., in a bank, convience store, etc). It's being taped on camera in those places where society would throw a "judgement" on you that is a cause for concern.

Yes, we've all enjoyed the confines of a nice studio and the girls need a level of security in order to properly do their job....but with so many stories having problems with drugs/addictions, and the likewise, what's to say that these tapes won't end up in the wrong hands. Obviously if a guy has the money to spend in a MP, he's making a fairly good income...thus if someone wanted to track this guy down, a person could summarize that he may have money behind his name?

Feedback?

 

[sdw]

Video cameras are everywhere you go, highways, banks, stores, etc....

MP's are on a loop system meaning its usually recorded over daily or every other day. It's only there for the protection of the MP from violence and robbery. Since MP's are usually a cash business and staffed by ladies, its quite the incentive for assholes to hold the joint up. Everyone values their safety so its a small price to pay.

Most security camera systems are feeding to a capture card in a computer these days. Since a low quality capture is around 30MB a minute and a high quality capture is around 100MB a minute, the amount of time saved per camera is limited by the size of the Hard Drive. If the computer has a 200GB Hard Drive, you are looking at a finite amount of time that is recorded. Most security companies set it up so that Monday is deleted to capture Wednesday, Tuesday is deleted to capture Thursday, etc.

 

[Sonny]

but with so many stories having problems with drugs/addictions, and the likewise, what's to say that these tapes won't end up in the wrong hands. Obviously if a guy has the money to spend in a MP, he's making a fairly good income...thus if someone wanted to track this guy down, a person could summarize that he may have money behind his name?

The easiest way to learn about a customer's identity is for the girl to ask for it. If fact, they don't even have to ask! You'd be surprised at how many fellows leave business cards with the girls with cell numbers written on them as well. Little head rules for a lot of guys. And, usually, it's the guys with dough who do it. There is no need for the girl to try to steal images from the owner's computer, hire a PI, and try to track someone down, when the pickings are easy enough from the customers themselves - although I have never heard of a MP girl extorting a customer.

And not everyone who comes into a MP has a good income, many do not but just splurge and treat themselves once in a while. One time I was going into one AMP and another fellow was coming out... he was a street person on welfare Wednesday who used his debit card to pay for FS (his rainy-wet clothes stank the massage room).

 

[looking4alady]

Good points Sonny.....I had never thought of it from that perspective. I guess the clients can be to blame if fate were to catch up with them one day....and that it was their own doing that got them to that point.

As far as the person on welfare, Mp's are not restricted to who they cater do, as everyone's money does look the same !

 

[john23]

I heard about 10 years ago that on average people were photographed 300 times per day in public places. It has to be more now.

When someone has a camera out it may not even be on its just there to tell you you may be being photographed. But the prudent owner would also be interested in having a hidden camera over the till. I've heard of more than one case over the years of owners getting robbed by their own employees.

Keep in mind they also have dna samples from all their customers. I notice that many of the women make a big fuss over wrapping the wrapper up very carefully ... hmmmm

 

[john23]

Don't park nearby, pay with cash, etc etc. They won't be able to find out anything else about you.

I would hope that all tapes would be destroyed/recorded over after 30 days.

With modern a DVR system you can keep months worth of high quality video. Just hope the cops don't raid any place with one of these systems.

Many also have remote monitoring capability via the internet which could be a problem if someone found out about it and hacked into it. I know one chain of adult stores has monitors from all of their stores in the owner's house. Defintely would want to wear a disguise in that situation.