Suing the police
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Like imagine if one of you came to see me and the cameras picked up a crime and you got pulled in as a witness because you were nearby and then you had to explain why you were down here to your SO???? NOPE
Okay cool, well I’m glad you’re okay with all that, but I’m not...and a lot of people agree with me. 9/11 shouldn’t be a scapegoat for police to just mass surveil us with $90,000 trailers that don’t do anything to fix the problems that are causing crimes in the first place.
So the takeaway: avoid seeing Charlee or you will get watched by the Vancouver popo.
Joking. Good luck though. I hope it works.
Joking. Good luck though. I hope it works.
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All I can say is, don't move to China:
I remember not so long ago the event here in the lower mainland where a young girl of Chinese immigrants was murdered in a park near her home (not super clear on the details any more). The police had no leads for a long time. The parents commented not so long after it happpened that if they were still back in China, because pretty well all citizens in the cities are on camera 24/7 when outside of their home, the murderer would already have been found, tried and executed.
I am in no way recommending that we follow China's lead. In fact, when I first came across the story in the video above, I posted on it my FB page with a comment like "how very scary". But you can imagine that in countries like China, where the people have been conditioned to be come like sheep for the government wolves in Beijing, they believe the constant surveilance is actually a good thing. And who knows, in a few more generations, it may be the same all over the world.
JD
I remember not so long ago the event here in the lower mainland where a young girl of Chinese immigrants was murdered in a park near her home (not super clear on the details any more). The police had no leads for a long time. The parents commented not so long after it happpened that if they were still back in China, because pretty well all citizens in the cities are on camera 24/7 when outside of their home, the murderer would already have been found, tried and executed.
I am in no way recommending that we follow China's lead. In fact, when I first came across the story in the video above, I posted on it my FB page with a comment like "how very scary". But you can imagine that in countries like China, where the people have been conditioned to be come like sheep for the government wolves in Beijing, they believe the constant surveilance is actually a good thing. And who knows, in a few more generations, it may be the same all over the world.
JD
Big Brother was predicted a long time ago so we have had plenty of time to get used to. So the question I have is "what is worse? Google, your car, other apps and Cellphone providers tracking your whereabouts 24 hours a day or a few police video cameras in high crime areas to help reduce or deter people from breaking the law?"
There is a lot more things to get our panties in a knot specific us being tracked by big companies ready to sell us something or sell other companies your whereabouts and information about what restaurants or places we visit than Police cameras in places where crime is being committed.
I prefer to live in a safe place over being used by big corporations to monitize my life.
There is a lot more things to get our panties in a knot specific us being tracked by big companies ready to sell us something or sell other companies your whereabouts and information about what restaurants or places we visit than Police cameras in places where crime is being committed.
I prefer to live in a safe place over being used by big corporations to monitize my life.
It's true - there are a lot of privacy invasion these days.
I would also sue the government for the way the covid issue was managed. Putting all kinds of orders in place, forcing businesses to shut down, telling people what to do and all that has more severe consequences than running some cameras in, let's say it, a bit sketchy area of the town.
The positive side (sarcasm here) of the whole covid thing is that now you can walk around town with a mask on your face, sunglasses + hoodie without looking suspicious in the slightest so they can shove their footage up their ass.
Talking about 911 - now we are going to get our body temperature scanned at different venues and who knows what else - retinal scanning, heartbeat, etc.
But there are probably a lot of hoops in the law and they will use them to defend the department in the law suit.
Someone is on the path of becoming the Jeanne d'Arc of Vancouver.
I would also sue the government for the way the covid issue was managed. Putting all kinds of orders in place, forcing businesses to shut down, telling people what to do and all that has more severe consequences than running some cameras in, let's say it, a bit sketchy area of the town.
The positive side (sarcasm here) of the whole covid thing is that now you can walk around town with a mask on your face, sunglasses + hoodie without looking suspicious in the slightest so they can shove their footage up their ass.
Talking about 911 - now we are going to get our body temperature scanned at different venues and who knows what else - retinal scanning, heartbeat, etc.
But there are probably a lot of hoops in the law and they will use them to defend the department in the law suit.
Someone is on the path of becoming the Jeanne d'Arc of Vancouver.
So cameras are in a public space. Any body living in London England is on camera in a public space. It helps to solve crimes and track criminals down. If the cameras were inside your residence, then I would be alarmed. Most police are watching out for criminals. Today it is illegal for johns to engage escorts; its just the law right now.
As for the person sueing police, she has to prove that it is her that they are following and recording. And it means they could be watching someone else or team of persons which requires a bigger area of coverage. If you are choosing to move your activities due to the presence of cameras, that is her own choice. If you are a law abiding citizen, you don't have anything to worry about; why would you change your routine, because of cameras.
As for the person sueing police, she has to prove that it is her that they are following and recording. And it means they could be watching someone else or team of persons which requires a bigger area of coverage. If you are choosing to move your activities due to the presence of cameras, that is her own choice. If you are a law abiding citizen, you don't have anything to worry about; why would you change your routine, because of cameras.
First, cameras in England have been shown not to work. People just wear hoodies now.
Second, it’s everyone nearby the cameras are recording. Every person.
Third, here’s why the “nothing to hide” argument is flawed:
https://spreadprivacy.com/three-reasons-why-the-nothing-to-hide-argument-is-flawed/
Yeah... But technically speaking, no Johns are "law abiding" citizen...
This clip probably sums up how most Johns would react if they get pulled over by popo
In today's world, technology is great for the most part. In the medical world for example IE...medical discoveries, imagining, scanning etc. But when It crosses main boundaries ( human privacy ) , for me, its a thumbs down and in a thick bold way!! If it's used for criminal activity only....and ONLY that, then I'm ok with it. But if they are used beyond that, then I would have be against the existence of these site camera's. Just wait until the Cops begin to wear body cameras.
I really believe technology is becoming the " Mark of the Beast ".
I really believe technology is becoming the " Mark of the Beast ".
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Not sure if it’s been addressed here but weren’t those cameras deployed in response to the property crime uptick in the early days of the lockdown? I don’t think this temporary measure is unreasonable given the circumstances, but maybe their removal is overdue. Those units are typically used for surveillance of large gatherings like Festival of Lights or Canada Day.
Before that dumb bill based on the Swedish model, escorting and a john getting an escort/prostitute was not illegal. what was illegal was brothels, and living off the avails of prostitution. Really the new bill only made it illegal for johns, under the premise that prostitution was harming the ladies that did it. All of it religious biased against the escort due to political hacks (MPs in power), who just should of left everything else alone and put in safeguard for the escorts. But no, they had to put the "so the courts have said we have to change it, we will fuck everybody in the business cause we can"....
Speaking of cost/benefit analysis how much was spent by the City of Vancouver on ineffectual suicide barriers and bike lanes in the last 10 years?
