So...fucking...tired

[Katlyn]

Okay, I can't believe it but I am still up and still have several hours of work left to do. Last Thursday I was given a project to do for this company I am interning with. It was something I did not know how to do but which is only an extension of things I already do know how to do. I figured it wouldn't take too long to learn how to do it. A day, at most.

Was I every fucking wrong. I've been working non stop since then and have even had to cancel two appointments.

Lost income plus almost no sleep for a few days....

God, the things we do when chasing our passions is unbelievable. I'm not even sure I'll be done by 8am but I'm giving it my best. This is an important opportunity, one which I am not really qualified for but I'm being given a chance. I wish I was 21 again when I had unbounded energy and absolutely no need for sleep lol

 

[Pantherdash]

Ya but you will never in your life forget the solution to that project again. Time well spent IMHO.

Good luck!

Panther

 

[kalel]

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Okay, I can't believe it but I am still up and still have several hours of work left to do. Last Thursday I was given a project to do for this company I am interning with. It was something I did not know how to do but which is only an extension of things I already do know how to do. I figured it wouldn't take too long to learn how to do it. A day, at most.

Was I every fucking wrong. I've been working non stop since then and have even had to cancel two appointments.

Lost income plus almost no sleep for a few days....

God, the things we do when chasing our passions is unbelievable. I'm not even sure I'll be done by 8am but I'm giving it my best. This is an important opportunity, one which I am not really qualified for but I'm being given a chance. I wish I was 21 again when I had unbounded energy and absolutely no need for sleep lol

so going on perb on the internet is helping how? ya, i know, it's to take a break and relax. i kinda understand that mentality but to me the difference between the champion and the runner up is that the runner up takes breaks, champions pull out all the stops.

still, good luck on your project, my post wasn't meant to be a knock against you.

 

[Katlyn]

Ya but you will never in your life forget the solution to that project again. Time well spent IMHO.

Good luck!

Panther

No shit! lol

so going on perb on the internet is helping how? ya, i know, it's to take a break and relax. i kinda understand that mentality but to me the difference between the champion and the runner up is that the runner up takes breaks, champions pull out all the stops.

still, good luck on your project, my post wasn't meant to be a knock against you.

Well like I said I've been working on it non-stop for several days. I didn't get to bed at all last night and there is no way I could have stayed up the entire night if I didn't look at something other than stark white paper once in a while.

 

[Thatotherguy]

so going on perb on the internet is helping how? ya, i know, it's to take a break and relax. i kinda understand that mentality but to me the difference between the champion and the runner up is that the runner up takes breaks, champions pull out all the stops.

I've got to say, that's one of the stupidest things I've heard in a while. If you consider people who produce shoddy, sub-standard work to be champions, then yes, you're right. If, however, you want a job done right, then look to the person who takes periodic breaks to refresh their mind and gather their thoughts. As somebody who has managed employees for many years, I can tell you that the people who just power through everything without taking any breaks are the people who get sloppy. Of course, on the other hand of the spectrum are the people who seem to do nothing but take breaks, and obviously they don't get the job done properly any more than the people who don't take any breaks do.

 

[Katlyn]

Ah, but the trill of victory when you have learned how to do it is soooo satisfying. Just about everything I know how to do was accomplished by spending a few sleepless nights finding out the wrong way to do it.

It's true...it's one of the reasons I said I could do it even though I didn't actually know how. I learn a lot better when I work through things myself, mistakes included. It might take ten times longer than it would to sit and be taught it but I usually don't understand things I am taught -- even if I then do them on my own. I understand best when I teach myself, but with available guidance

And the next time I have to do this it will probably only take 1/3 of the time

 

[sonoman]

I wish I was 21 again when I had unbounded energy and absolutely no need for sleep lol

cute... wait 'til you hit 30.

 

[Holly Taylor]

Hehe- I don't remember having boundless energy at 21. I'm only 22 now and I certainly can't function properly without enough sleep!

One night I wrote a 25 page paper in 1 day- I finished at 2am, so I wasn't up all night. Ugh, that sucked anyway though-starting at 11am and writing until 2am. But I got an A, so it doesn't seem to make a difference how alert or tired I am when I'm writing, lol. For my own sanity's sake, I've been trying not to leave things to the last minute this term...I'm sure you've learned your lesson too

Don't worry doll- you're doing great. I'm glad all these opportunities are coming your way and you're managing to keep up (even if just barely)

 

[kalel]

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I've got to say, that's one of the stupidest things I've heard in a while. If you consider people who produce shoddy, sub-standard work to be champions, then yes, you're right. If, however, you want a job done right, then look to the person who takes periodic breaks to refresh their mind and gather their thoughts. As somebody who has managed employees for many years, I can tell you that the people who just power through everything without taking any breaks are the people who get sloppy. Of course, on the other hand of the spectrum are the people who seem to do nothing but take breaks, and obviously they don't get the job done properly any more than the people who don't take any breaks do.

you must be a union worker!

i'm not saying taking breaks in general is bad (like days off from work), but i am saying that taking them at crunch time is bad. my definition of a champion is the pittsburg steelers - they did what they needed to to win. it would have been stupid for santonio holmes to try to take a break on that last drive, but i suppose YOU would okay that if you were the coach. and yes, of course they take breaks - it's called the offseason.

now back to regularly scheduled life - you can make any case you want about how breaks help mental performance, but i live on the premise that you just make yourself tougher thru practice so when the time comes you're ready AND able to focus and work hard to produce stellar results.

like i said earlier, it wasn't meant as a knock against anybody, just that there are people who can do well without breaks just as there are people who produce sloppy work even with breaks.

 

[Sit_on_my_face]

Okay, I can't believe it but I am still up and still have several hours of work left to do. Last Thursday I was given a project to do for this company I am interning with. It was something I did not know how to do but which is only an extension of things I already do know how to do. I figured it wouldn't take too long to learn how to do it. A day, at most.

Was I every fucking wrong. I've been working non stop since then and have even had to cancel two appointments.

Lost income plus almost no sleep for a few days....

God, the things we do when chasing our passions is unbelievable. I'm not even sure I'll be done by 8am but I'm giving it my best. This is an important opportunity, one which I am not really qualified for but I'm being given a chance. I wish I was 21 again when I had unbounded energy and absolutely no need for sleep lol

Mid 20's and your talking like that!!!! LOL.....

sweetheart.....I was still getting no sleep playing in bar bands in my late 20's !!! LOL..

Nevermind your 30's as one poster mentioned above!!!


Wait until your early 40's sweetie!!!

Cherish your youth girl. Trust me. But as Pantherdash said and I agree........time well spent!

 

[Valium]

Life is a bitch. Deal with it

 

[CJ Tylers]

you must be a union worker!

i'm not saying taking breaks in general is bad (like days off from work), but i am saying that taking them at crunch time is bad. my definition of a champion is the pittsburg steelers - they did what they needed to to win. it would have been stupid for santonio holmes to try to take a break on that last drive, but i suppose YOU would okay that if you were the coach. and yes, of course they take breaks - it's called the offseason.

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like i said earlier, it wasn't meant as a knock against anybody, just that there are people who can do well without breaks just as there are people who produce sloppy work even with breaks.

That's funny... to what union are referring to? I know lots of people in my last company (including myself) that took their breaks whenever they were able to... mostly because work needs rearranged them on a daily basis.

We did high quality work, too.

Hearing anti union rhetoric gets very tiring, you know? I'm sure just as many people could pull out instances of non union workers slacking off or producing shoddy work. (I know that I can, as I have worked in past, and will probably work in future...as a non union worker.)

Certainly I can point out abusive bosses that also do their best to rip off customers and take short cuts for profit that comprimise safety or quality of the installation. Bosses that refuse to pay benefits, or over time, or make unreasonable demands upon employees that they delight in underpaying.

Lazy, poor quality, and thick headed people aren't protected in unions. What protects them is the lack of desire of a boss to go through due process to get rid of them. They miss the fact that it is that due process that allows a union to build a case against a member for black balling him... and expelling him from the union entirely.

 

[kalel]

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That's funny... to what union are referring to? I know lots of people in my last company (including myself) that took their breaks whenever they were able to... mostly because work needs rearranged them on a daily basis.

We did high quality work, too.

Hearing anti union rhetoric gets very tiring, you know?

teamsters.

sorry, i'm jaded cuz i worked for the laziest form of life - the government. and by that i mean in the office, and i saw some of the laziest people i've ever met. sorry, i don't mean to cast a negative view on all government but there alot of lifers there that hide behind union rules all day long.

yes, i know there are alot of lazy people outside unions too but my original post was about digging deep when you need to and some people can't always do that. some simply choose not to do that.

 

[CJ Tylers]

Ah, government... well why didn't you say so? ICBC/HO, WCB/HO...my GOD...I have never seen such lazy, slack assed people in my life.

Except the call centers / response centers. Those people work hard.

I've seen people in both locations literally sit and look at the internert, or yap at each other...doing nothing else... for hours. WCB had people that were on personal phone calls for over an hour, not at any break time either.

Lots of paper pushing, that's for sure. They are self sustaining entities that exist only to expand their size, and justify their size. Did I mention that WCB has Soccer Wednesday coffee break? That's where they take a 3 hour break to go have a nice, relaxed coffee break whilst taking in a soccer game at a local pitch.

Or pizza night thursdays...where they order in pizza, talk with each other, surf the web.. and generally do nothing but avoid work.

How about the lovely full sized gym and decent sized work out rooms? WCB used to have a pool, too.

Or despite "no running in the halls", many people decide to engage in jogging in the corridors to keep their fitness up... yet run through your safety cones and scold you for taking up too much of an area.



I know the excesses at hydro corporate and business centers are just as bad.

That said, do keep in mind that the execs at those places have a pay that is directly proportional to the size of their business... and that as long as they eat up their operating budget every year, they always get a larger one the next year. So all those paper pushers are doing something, I suppose.

 

[Thatotherguy]

you must be a union worker!

Nope, I'm a manager who manages non-union employees. Hence my statement about how I've managed employees for many years... Years ago I was in a union, and I hated it. Not because I'm against unions in general, just because the particular union I was in did absolutely jack shit for me.

i'm not saying taking breaks in general is bad (like days off from work), but i am saying that taking them at crunch time is bad. my definition of a champion is the pittsburg steelers - they did what they needed to to win. it would have been stupid for santonio holmes to try to take a break on that last drive, but i suppose YOU would okay that if you were the coach. and yes, of course they take breaks - it's called the offseason.

Sports are an absolutely terrible example, since a game usually only lasts maybe 3 hours or so, and from a mental standpoint you shouldn't need a break at all over that length of time (although obviously the athletes take many breaks over that period for physical reasons).

now back to regularly scheduled life - you can make any case you want about how breaks help mental performance, but i live on the premise that you just make yourself tougher thru practice so when the time comes you're ready AND able to focus and work hard to produce stellar results.

That's an incredibly flawed premise. If you don't take a break every few hours, your work will suffer. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. It doesn't have to be a long break (in fact it's better if it's no more then 15 minutes), but if you don't take at least 5 minutes here and there, you're not going to be giving your best performance, no matter how much practice you've had. I literally can't count the number times I've seen it.

Moreover, it's a biological fact. It's based entirely on the way the human brain converts short-term memories into long-term memories, and processes new information. Without short breaks every few hours when your conscious mind isn't focusing all of its attention on a task, your subconsciousness can't properly process the information you've been feeding into it. That means that long-term memories of what you've been doing in the preceding time won't be as clear as they should be, and you won't be able to process new information as clearly or quickly either.

 

[island-guy]

I remember having a sugarbabe going through the same things...

It was a lot of fun to mentor her, and be rewarded afterwards, LOL

Her bosses always wondered how she learned everything so quickly

 

[kalel]

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That's an incredibly flawed premise. If you don't take a break every few hours, your work will suffer. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. It doesn't have to be a long break (in fact it's better if it's no more then 15 minutes), but if you don't take at least 5 minutes here and there, you're not going to be giving your best performance, no matter how much practice you've had. I literally can't count the number times I've seen it.

Moreover, it's a biological fact. It's based entirely on the way the human brain converts short-term memories into long-term memories, and processes new information. Without short breaks every few hours when your conscious mind isn't focusing all of its attention on a task, your subconsciousness can't properly process the information you've been feeding into it. That means that long-term memories of what you've been doing in the preceding time won't be as clear as they should be, and you won't be able to process new information as clearly or quickly either.

here's a thought - not all humans are equal. some can perform better under pressure and can pull out the stops.

i'll back off now, because this thread wasn't about you or me, and you are speaking of humans in general, where-as i'm speaking about specific people.

 

[CJ Tylers]

Not all humans are created equal...very true. That said, we can't expect to apply a template set forward by an exceptional few to the vast majority... just as the vast majority should not conform to the standards set by the few which are under performers in society.

 

[wess]

Life is a bitch. Deal with it

Thats easy to say for you, look at your name.

Can you get me some ? no wait, im so fuct up that i can get some from the doctor.

 

[Thatotherguy]

here's a thought - not all humans are equal. some can perform better under pressure and can pull out the stops.

That's true, but the basic biology is the same. Some people will perform better without breaks than others, but all will perform better with breaks than they could without. I was never talking about absolute performance, I was talking about relative performance.

It's like the difference between a sprint and a steady run. Some people can sprint faster or for longer than others, but the sprint will always tire you out faster than a steady run will. Heck, person A may be able to keep up a sprint for longer than a person B can keep up a steady run, but person A will still be able to keep up a run for longer than he can keep up his sprint. It's the exact same concept, and it doesn't make the slightest difference whether you're talking about humans in general, or specific segments of the population.