Seeking advice on binoculars

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bigguy

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I am seeking a replacement for a stolen pair of binoculars. I am confused to the "8x25's," "10x42's" etc.

Any advice for the optimum "optics" for racetrack viewing (as in thoroughbred racing).

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1st number is the power 2nd number the size of the front lens in mm. The larger the 2nd number the more light the clearer the view.
 

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I am seeking a replacement for a stolen pair of binoculars. I am confused to the "8x25's," "10x42's" etc.

Any advice for the optimum "optics" for racetrack viewing (as in thoroughbred racing).

bigguy
the first number refers to the magnification power, in your examples 8 times and 10 times

the second number refers to the diameter in millimetres of the objective (or front) lens. the front lens is important in that the larger the lens, the more light is allowed to pass into the tubes. higher magnification powers limit the amount of light reaching your eyes, wider lenses overcome this problem

again, using your examples the 25's have a 25mm diameter lens and the 42's a 42mm diameter lens. note the larger lens is used with the higher magnification

outdoor life and birder's world magazines generally have annual reviews of the best binocular brands

i'm going to copy the following from a website with good information on general uses:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/binocular_basics.htm

For finding things in the field, you need fairly bright binoculars. The navies of the world generally use 7x50 binoculars on their ships. These offer a 7.1mm exit pupil and gather all the light young eyes can use. They also offer a good field of view and as much magnification as is practical from a moving vessel. However, they are comparatively heavy and bulky. This is not a problem for a fisherman operating from a boat and 7x50 marine binoculars are the first choice for the salt water fisherman. However, the hunter needs something more compact.

For field applications a 4mm to 5mm exit pupil is usually satisfactory and 6x30, 7x35, 8x30, or 9x35 binoculars are probably the most useful compromise for hunting. They are bright enough to allow the observer to see into shadowed areas, or in dim light, and compact enough to not be an excessive burden to carry. Higher power binoculars are hard to hold steady without external support and objective lenses of 40mm or larger tend to make for heavy and bulky binoculars that are a burden to carry.

The woods hunter will be well served by a glass with a generous field of view, like a 6x30. The mountain hunter will probably favor higher power, since he will use them to spot game at greater distances. 8x30 or 9x35 binoculars will do well. A pair of the common 7x35 size binoculars is probably about as good for all-around field use as any. Whatever magnification best fits your needs, be sure to buy top quality binoculars and you will not be disappointed.
 

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As a birdwatcher i would recommend going to an optics store and trying out a variety of binoculars.
For horse racing something like Canons IS series in a 12x36 would be good (long range).
The price tag is in the $1,000 range but i'm sure you can find good quality second hand at a reputable camera or telescope store.


I hope this helps :)
 

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My thanks for the advice proferred. And the primer on the principles of binocular optics.

bigguy
what i didn't mention is that the more expensive models are filled with gasses that allow light to pass through better than air. nitrogen is the most used gas and it gives a noticeably brighter view
 

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Due to advice previously offered, I have narrowed down my choice between Nikon Action 10x40 or Nikon Action 12x50.
Any comments or experience??

bigguy
Have you compared prices in the US vs here? Checked on eBay?
 

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Yo Luvsdaty:

So what you mean is that the 12x50 could be a trifle more "temperamental" than the less-sensitive 10x40??? Bear in mind these 'nocs will hang around my neck for 28 minutes and then be used only for the next TWO minutes (or less) repetitively over a four-hour period and then put away until the next day? Sorry to be going on and on. Next response (hopefully) will conclude my uncertainty. Thanks in advance.

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Yo Luvsdaty:

So what you mean is that the 12x50 could be a trifle more "temperamental" than the less-sensitive 10x40??? Bear in mind these 'nocs will hang around my neck for 28 minutes and then be used only for the next TWO minutes (or less) repetitively over a four-hour period and then put away until the next day? Sorry to be going on and on. Next response (hopefully) will conclude my uncertainty. Thanks in advance.

bigguy
Ummm , think of all those lousy shakey videos of sasquatch. The higher the power, the shakier it's gonna look. Also your eye is about 4 mm in diameter, so that's all the light it's gonna let in.True, the bigger the front lens the more light it's gonna collect,BUT your eye will only allow so much light in because of the diameter of the thingy(sorry medical jargon) But coatings really help.
 

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i've had a 10 x 40 and it is a magnificent glass although not small by any means. 12 x 50 sounds a little heavy to me plus hard to hold steady enough for fast action viewing - but you should be able to spend some time ouside the store looking at people walking, cycling and driving by. if it can be held steady enough, then by all means go for the bigger magnification. you'll love it at the track

if you buy at a store you can probably exchange them within 30 days if you find they are too hard to hold steady at the track
 

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I just bought a pair of Swarovski EL 10 X 42 with a built in rangefinder at Cabelas is Tulalip WA, also available on line. In my estimation they are the best binocular $$ can buy.

Wouldn't buy a 12X anything unless you plan to use a mono pod to steady them.
 

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It really depends on your budget as well. The Nikons are good glasses (I'd go for the smaller ones for the track) but The Canon Image stabilized binoculars are really impressive for those of us who don't have rock-steady hands.

I've been drooling over the L series 10x42s for some time but can't quite justify the price to myself.

Swarovskis are very high quality as are Leica, Lietz and Zeiss but all are very pricey.

Cheers! WS.
 

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i knew a guy who used to pack Leica Trinovids. they were VERY expensive at the time (prices have come down because they don't have to hand grind them any more, they use computers instead) but man were they good glasses! palm sized, ultra coated lenses, nitrogen filled innards - sheeit, you could look into a CAVE and see shit inside
 

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Once again, thank you all for your valuable information and opinions. I am now confident that my choice will fully fulfil my requirements. Interesting that the Nikon Action 10x40 weighs in at 26.1 oz., whilst the Nikon Action 8x40 Ultra Wide View is a slightly lighter weight at 26.1 oz. I have decided that the latter is right up my alley. Sincere thanks once again. PERBites came through again.

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hey, make sure you give us a review of how yer new glasses work out... lol :D
 
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