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That is so far from the truth. First of all, before the internet, sex workers were operated by a strong and visual Pimp business. Each and every female prostitute you saw on any main track/stroll had a "Man" and often belonged to a "family", where that Pimp had a stable of other hoes with the wifey being his main. Prostitutes were of all ages. I remember one of the OG Heaux's on the stroll was a 45+, openly transvestite, renegade (indy) worker. I shall keep her name anonymous, but that Bish, was mad cool, successful and pulled up to work her corner, every damn night in a luxury car. I always enjoyed standing with her and conversing.
The internet has truly given sex workers the liberty and empowerment to run their own business. Love, respect, support and learn from each and every one of us. We all come from somewhere and we all have a story and goals.
I don't doubt what you are saying.I am going on my admittedly small sample size.
Replying to ads in the Straight and the West Ender, is where I had sessions with ladies,nearly all of whom were early 20's or late teens.
I can't speak to the track/stroll scene.
 

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And again, I am sticking to what I am telling you. I had girlfriends ran by Pimps who also marketed their Ladies through newsprint ads, to have less heat from streetwalking life. Street life could be tough and plenty couldn't hack it, so working indoors and offering ads was an alternative. And if any chick fucked up while walking the streets and got her ass beat by other hoes, there was no coming back, without always having to watch your back. Quite a few reasons to offering services indoors......but still with a Pimp.
 
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sex workers were operated by a strong and visual Pimp business. Each and every female prostitute you saw on any main track/stroll had a "Man" and often belonged to a "family
There was a strong pimp group operating in Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmo and Van.
They had their own semi private clubs.There was one a block east of the cop shop in downtown Calgary, one on Sherbrooke two blocks south of Club Forum in Winnipeg and the one upstairs on Richards by Georgia in Van.
They were not nice people.
 

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Also in that time, the great strip clubs, in particular the Drake and the Mar were seemingly run by the Hell's Angels, who had a significant presence in the lower mainland at the time.
But boy those bars were well run!!
 

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Not disputing what you're saying Lady V...the fact remains that many young, i.e. early 20's SP's ran ads in GS&WE and they WERE as advertised.
I don't know where young SP's advertise today.
Sure,Leolist has heaps of "21"&"22" year olds,who magically morph into 40 something and D cup shrinks to B.
This is why Perb is a great source of information.
 

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I was thinking about this the other day. Way, way, way back, (1985) when I first saw a provider, I was on my own. Too shy and too embarrassed and guilty to ask anyone how to go about it. It was Hawaii where I first saw a girl on the street and took her to my room. It was a very, very disappointing experience. Back in Vancouver, I drove around, sometimes for hours looking for eligible girls I thought attractive enough to be with. It was pretty disappointing until I met Cindy, or Dee as she preferred to be called. Our experiences together developed until we became quite comfortable. I would look for her on the street on Richards near Robson. We saw each other for probably 6 years. $100-2 shots. Later I had her phone number and would contact her that way. But driving around was really hit and miss. There was Michelle from Quebec, I remember. She was nice and also a blond girl whose company I enjoyed.

I discovered the West Ender and later the Georgia Straight. These became my go to search engines. There was Lisa “Legs Legs Legs” and a girl who’s last name was MacKenzie who had the phrase “who’s afraid of Virginia Wolf” in her ad. Also Jennifer “Great Greek” and Rebecca “Oo La La!” and Mona from France. There was also a girl from Thailand who was stunning but she was only around for a month or so. There were others whose names i don’t recall at the moment. Then Hollywood North Escorts arrived on the web in the late ‘90’s that was useful.

There were no review boards or search engines and I kept to myself. I was on my own to figure things out.

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I don't remember what it was called, but it was very popular during the cold season. Street walking in the Fall and Winter wasn't for the faint of heart. I swear my feet are still paying for all that stiletto mileage
I put them through. And these Heaux's nowadays won't understand the reality of taking a Hoe Bath :LOL:!!! No luxury of showering after seeing a client. I was real close with the owner of Mr Sub on the corners
of Hastings and Vernon, who let me wash up in his bathroom.



Ah hahahaaa, naw man. Black and white mini checkered denim Daisy Dukes with thigh high patent leather stiletto boots to be exact.
It is... something of a true pleasure to have you here and raising your hand as someone who once lived that downtown routine. Of course the dynamics of this biz are sad in that the best outcome for a young woman in it, is that she completely disappears into random future life. I wish I could sit in a large auditorium in 2021 with scores and scores of the women I ever saw on that one square downtown block, just to marvel at how... truly random they are today. Although it would be meaningful to me if I could witness them confiding of their shared involvement of the environment that seemed so awe inspiring way back when.

Hopefully the few upsellers that I actually met wouldn't be able to pick me out with much certainty.

I wonder whatever became of the girl who uttered the usual line: "would you like some company tonight?"

before I responded to her: "before a guy could take you out, he'd first have to even be able to imagine himself with the likes of you" (she was SO well turned-out and striking)


That's another thing: I'd love to have a chance to meet those same women today... in their 40's, 50's and 60's, with each bringing photos of their then-presented selves AS they appeared at nights on Richards and Helmcken. It would be an awesome experience to see them today contemplating their then-selves.

The great lengths to which they went to seem impeccable in their appearances were rather amazing to my younger and more impressionable self.



It would be so amazing to re-live some of those long-ago nights when the high track downtown was at its very best.


I still do not regret favoring the typical single moms in the DTES on just a few nights near the end of the month, because their authentic and more-grounded spirits were probably more refreshing than any of those pristine body parts strolling the high track could ever have been.

But wow, just... some of those repeated walks around the block down on the high track, deviating my path just a little bit to not seem extremely obvious.


(fades back to 2021)
 
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And again, I am sticking to what I am telling you. I had girlfriends ran by Pimps who also marketed their Ladies through newsprint ads, to have less heat from streetwalking life. Street life could be tough and plenty couldn't hack it, so working indoors and offering ads was an alternative. And if any chick fucked up while walking the streets and got her ass beat by other hoes, there was no coming back, without always having to watch your back. Quite a few reasons to offering services indoors......but still with a Pimp.

Yes, there was definitely SOMETHING about the high track which, to the uninitiated, kept every random beauty from walking the same, popular strip in order to see and be seen. A vibe about (fitting in/being welcomed) which surely translated to being managed/handled.... and somebody controlling the environs.

Also interesting, too, was the proliferation of sidewalk business during winters in the 1980's and 1990's yet during the summer tourist seasons, the attendance by working girls on that magic square block across from then Madam Cleo's was either non-existent or way down.
 

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I was thinking about this the other day. Way, way, way back, (1985) when I first saw a provider, I was on my own. Too shy and too embarrassed and guilty to ask anyone how to go about it. It was Hawaii where I first saw a girl on the street and took her to my room. It was a very, very disappointing experience. Back in Vancouver, I drove around, sometimes for hours looking for eligible girls I thought attractive enough to be with. It was pretty disappointing until I met Cindy, or Dee as she preferred to be called. Our experiences together developed until we became quite comfortable. I would look for her on the street on Richards near Robson. We saw each other for probably 6 years. $100-2 shots. Later I had her phone number and would contact her that way. But driving around was really hit and miss. There was Michelle from Quebec, I remember. She was nice and also a blond girl whose company I enjoyed.

I discovered the West Ender and later the Georgia Straight. These became my go to search engines. There was Lisa “Legs Legs Legs” and a girl who’s last name was MacKenzie who had the phrase “who’s afraid of Virginia Wolf” in her ad. Also Jennifer “Great Greek” and Rebecca “Oo La La!” and Mona from France. There was also a girl from Thailand who was stunning but she was only around for a month or so. There were others whose names i don’t recall at the moment. Then Hollywood North Escorts arrived on the web in the late ‘90’s that was useful.

There were no review boards or search engines and I kept to myself. I was on my own to figure things out.

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I think I used to see Cindy/Dee as well. Did she used to stand near a phone booth (kids reading this won't know what phone booth is :) ) on Richards, west side of street near Robson? Anyway, she was awesome
And Michelle FROM Quebec, did you used to find her ironically enough on Quebec Street? She was AMAZING

Anyway, was definitely the wild west back then. No review boards, lots of street action
 

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It is... something of a true pleasure to have you here and raising your hand as someone who once lived that downtown routine. Of course the dynamics of this biz are sad in that the best outcome for a young woman in it, is that she completely disappears into random future life. I wish I could sit in a large auditorium in 2021 with scores and scores of the women I ever saw on that one square downtown block, just to marvel at how... truly random they are today. Although it would be meaningful to me if I could witness them confiding of their shared involvement of the environment that seemed so awe inspiring way back when.

Hopefully the few upsellers that I actually met wouldn't be able to pick me out with much certainty.

I wonder whatever became of the girl who uttered the usual line: "would you like some company tonight?"

before I responded to her: "before a guy could take you out, he'd first have to even be able to imagine himself with the likes of you" (she was SO well turned-out and striking)


That's another thing: I'd love to have a chance to meet those same women today... in their 40's, 50's and 60's, with each bringing photos of their then-presented selves AS they appeared at nights on Richards and Helmcken. It would be an awesome experience to see them today contemplating their then-selves.

The great lengths to which they went to seem impeccable in their appearances were rather amazing to my younger and more impressionable self.



It would be so amazing to re-live some of those long-ago nights when the high track downtown was at its very best.


I still do not regret favoring the typical single moms in the DTES on just a few nights near the end of the month, because their authentic and more-grounded spirits were probably more refreshing than any of those pristine body parts strolling the high track could ever have been.

But wow, just... some of those repeated walks around the block down on the high track, deviating my path just a little bit to not seem extremely obvious.


(fades back to 2021)
LOL we used to do the same walk :) Nelson to Richards to Helmcken to Seymour and repeat :)

Ive often thought that as well. What has become of some of the gems I met down there and also on the Quebec Street stroll.

Interesting time, pre internet. A LOT of walking :) I kind of wish I kept a diary (both of my SP experiences as well as civilian experiences over the years......something to look back on when we are in our 90s gumming our food over dinner)
 

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I think I used to see Cindy/Dee as well. Did she used to stand near a phone booth (kids reading this won't know what phone booth is :) ) on Richards, west side of street near Robson? Anyway, she was awesome
And Michelle FROM Quebec, did you used to find her ironically enough on Quebec Street? She was AMAZING

Anyway, was definitely the wild west back then. No review boards, lots of street action
Michelle from Quebec! Yes, I remember her on the streets.
 
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