Pamela 4437

Grishnak

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I hate to have to say this again. Except for very few individuals who have their own websites or advertise on PERB, all Asian ads are fake. If you did not hear me that time, ALL ASIAN ADS ARE FAKE! Even VIP, one of the preferred agencies in our city uses pics that are not of the women who visit.
 

lff1975

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Sorry for the lack of information on what I have already discovered and what I was looking for. I did concede that the pictures were likely fake. This provider is not real in terms of the up front honesty from other providers I have seen where adds were right on everything that was communicated was provided. This add isn't real the same way I can personally verify that Kelly White, Miss Jessyka, Rose Paradis, Riley, Audrey, Lori Alexandra and some others are.

I am trying to determine the level of fake
Is it fake like VIP where the pics aren't the person and the age might be fudged 5 to 10 years but everything else is accurate
Is it fake like what I have read here about the south condos where the pics aren't the person and the age is fudged 10 to 30 years
Is it fake like nothing is real even what is communicated but there is a person at the other end
Is it a right out scam where they ask for an e-transfer when you arrive
Is it right out dangerous and you are going to be robbed or attacked
Is it LE

Before the plague I visited Lori house a couple of times so from what I read here VIP will be difficult to get into.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think the whole point of a review site from the users perspective is to gain information about someone you might want to meet and share information on people you have seen. I don't find it very helpful from the people that say all certain adds are fake without first hand knowledge of the provider being investigated. There are people here that say you should never see anyone that doesn't advertise here. That leave a lot of providers out. Others say you should only see well reviewed providers but the problem with that is some providers find reviews demeaning and if you had a good experience you don't want to mess up future visits.

I do realize the safest bet would be advertisers here then the level of risk goes up from there but that was the point of my question about this particular provider to see if someone has first hand knowledge to minimize my risk.
I have contacted the number and the communication was prompt, no red flags for spelling and grammar, services offered and price seemed in range with others, location seems to be reasonable, tineye reports the pics on a Chinese language website in 2015 but when I visited the site I did not see the pics so they are stolen or old.

Any first hand information would be appreciated.
Thank you
 

cflnhl

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... tineye reports the pics on a Chinese language website in 2015 information would be appreciated.
Thank you
Glad you did your homework.

I checked the pics myself; yeah, she's a screaming fake.

Pics taken from an Oriental website are a reliable marker that the lady you will see will not be the one in the photos.

The collective experience of the pooners here is that - other than VIPOTG - an ad depicting a very attractive young Oriental lady TGTBT is - in the best case - really a front for an older or much older unattractive lady. Sure, you will get service from an Oriental lady, but it feels the same as answering an ad for a German car with a picture of a Mercedes-AMG GT, going down to the dealership, then discovering it's really a used 1967 Volkswagen Beetle, same price. The dealer will say: "We said we are selling a German car and that's a German car". True, but you still feel ripped-off.

A couple of local MILF Oriental ladies do advertise regularly, their pictures are true to who they are.

The ladies coming here of late via VIPOTG have been prone to stealing photos off the Net and misrepresenting themselves. The only feature differentiating these ladies from the "aunties" is that they are young, however the line between them and the regular scammers is getting blurry.

It's not like the early years of VIPOTG; the uber-hot lady in the professionally-done pics was who you got, with service to match!

VIPOTG does not take responsibility for the pics of the ladies who come to town for them, and it lets the lady post whatever she wants. They argue : "The girls don't want to show themselves". The obvious rejoinder: "Then don't show anything at all".
 

lff1975

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Glad you did your homework.

I checked the pics myself; yeah, she's a screaming fake.

Pics taken from an Oriental website are a reliable marker that the lady you will see will not be the one in the photos.

The collective experience of the pooners here is that - other than VIPOTG - an ad depicting a very attractive young Oriental lady TGTBT is - in the best case - really a front for an older or much older unattractive lady. Sure, you will get service from an Oriental lady, but it feels the same as answering an ad for a German car with a picture of a Mercedes-AMG GT, going down to the dealership, then discovering it's really a used 1967 Volkswagen Beetle, same price. The dealer will say: "We said we are selling a German car and that's a German car". True, but you still feel ripped-off.

A couple of local MILF Oriental ladies do advertise regularly, their pictures are true to who they are.

The ladies coming here of late via VIPOTG have been prone to stealing photos off the Net and misrepresenting themselves. The only feature differentiating these ladies from the "aunties" is that they are young, however the line between them and the regular scammers is getting blurry.

It's not like the early years of VIPOTG; the uber-hot lady in the professionally-done pics was who you got, with service to match!

VIPOTG does not take responsibility for the pics of the ladies who come to town for them, and it lets the lady post whatever she wants. They argue : "The girls don't want to show themselves". The obvious rejoinder: "Then don't show anything at all".

I get all of that and understand. When evaluating meeting a lady for the first time one of the check I do for myself does this make business sense. So short of it being a straight up scam where when you arrive they ask for an e-transfer I see that she is incurring expenses (hotel room at airport, advertising). The adds have been going on for over a week and assuming she is staying in the hotel the whole time she is either loosing a lot of money or people are seeing her. Now it does make me angry that people false advertise out there and in a perfect world that wouldn't happen but we aren't in a perfect world. Now I have no problem walking away if the e-transfer thing comes up or if the person there is so different than what is advertised that it won't work for me. What would really concern me is the robbing/being attacked or LE once inside the hotel room.

Because even if someone has a great time with a provider it is no guarantee you or I would. Chemistry is important.

Also I am a fat, old, ugly white guy so an Auntie might not be too bad chemistry could work out just looking at the safety concerns and that could be helped out by first hand accounts. The communication makes me lean towards it is either a complete scam or there is someone there and they would have to be making money some how to be there.
 

cflnhl

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Personally I don't put too fine a point on the nature of misrepresentation the woman may be running, whether it is a little white lie or a big whopper. I take the viewpoint of any rational consumer: if a product/service is misrepresented I boycott it until that changes or until some good reviews come in.

I make the assumption the pics are likely fake.
You did seem uncertain as to whether or not Pamela's pics are fake; that is why I belabored my explanation. From our experience Grishnak and I - and likely a lot of others - immediately roll our eyes and dismiss the ad as fake. I no longer puke in my mouth when I see these ads.

Bobo or Miya are Asian MILF who may work for you. I have not seen them myself but my understanding is what you see is what you get, and you will not be ripped off.
 

cgent

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I think the op is just looking to confirm the ad is for a real person and a safe experience, and willing to gamble on looks.
Id be curious about these ads as well. I see quite a few advertisements around of u of m or the airport.
Like Yuki 2163 on LL. Are these independents or are there other reputable agencies besides vip running nowadays.
 
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