Sorry Accidentally deleted original post...
Okay everyone, im relatively new to this whole business, but Im curious about some of your experiences. Ive been to a few MPs now and it almost seems like the norm is becoming that the ladies seem to be working way to much for what they can handle.
Now im not saying it not a great time, it is...but when do the ladies start taking into account that with the quantity of customers, the quality seems to diminish? Does the studio step in and take into account complete customer satisfaction for which they all claim to strive for? Should there start to be some kind of discount with the number of client during the day? Ive always tried to time my appoints for when they come onto shift to avoid this problem...but no luck.
So whats your guys take on the issue? Does it happen to anyone else but me, or is it the fact that im new to everything to do with ladies and this is normal?
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Yesterday 05:18 PM
#2 PeaceGuy
Official keeper of the LG
Something like you describe has happened to to me from time to time. If it were to happen the first time I see a lady, I would likely see other ladies from then on & post a review. If I've had a good session or two with the lady in question & then have this occur, I've generally chalked it up to one of those days that everyone gets from time to time & keep her on the rotation. If a pattern arises with a previously enjoyable SP, I see generally other ladies from then on.
Please note that I recognize that I for one have issues that constrain the position options for the ladies & cause me to take more time then many other pooners. However at the same time I'm paying a fair price to have fun. But fun is generally found in the action & the finish, while important, is not critical for me (to the consternation of many suddenly insecure ladies). So long as I'm having fun, I don't cross them off the list. But I do spend more time where I'm having the most fun.
I'm not looking to get married or anything.
I just want some nice lady to raise my little guy.
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#3 threepeat
IMHO girls try to pace themselves over the course of their shift, so even if you arrive first that doesn't guarantee being able to go at it longer with them... it has more to do with mileage. If you have a good relationship with a girl, you will get better treatment, regardless of how fresh she is.
Try to build a good rapport with a girl over a few visits and see if things improve. If not, go elsewhere.
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#4 Bootsy
Never had this problem, but then I don't usually last past 5 minutes, followed by 55 minutes of me crying and insisting it's usually not like this.
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Yesterday 11:16 PM #5 sperminator
Judge Lance Ito's #1 Fan
I always book my session during the start of my favourite lady's shift. I want to be her first for that shift.
Why?
It's because I'm a selfish bastard, that's why.
Originally Posted by Bootsy
Never had this problem, but then I don't usually last past 5 minutes, followed by 55 minutes of me crying and insisting it's usually not like this.I last 3 seconds and spend the remaining 59 minutes and 57 seconds talking about my crocodile shoes.
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Yesterday 11:20 PM #6 Bootsy
Originally Posted by sperminator
I last 3 seconds and spend the remaining 59 minutes and 57 seconds talking about my crocodile shoes.I'm including my shower in the 5 minutes, so it's closer to 4 minutes 38 seconds for a quick shower, 22 seconds of "gittin it on" and THAN me crying.
That's why I don't do duos. I'd rather disappoint one lady at a time.
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Today 12:07 AM #7 jdtipper
K I think this is going in the wrong direction than what i expected.
Does anyone else have issue with paying full price, expecting great service and then getting excuses for subpar performances? Even getting a girl at start of shift doesnt guarantee 100%. Midway through my session I hear about some guy being to rough a couple days before, or having worked some 14 hr shifts...that now affects my session.
Should the studios not compensate clients for this? I know its all about the almighty dollar, but its not like they warn you up front that they are tired, and we cant stop halfway through and demand our money back...
I dont think im being greedy or expect too much, but i try to please the lady first before we start on me, and all through session I try to keep her happy. That might be my problem though.
Maybe im a cheap ass i dont know....but do you guys recommend anyone or any place that actually put customer satisfaction first?
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Today 12:24 AM #8 Kendra_Chase
Elite Retreat
This problem exists due to the fascade/cover and legalities of the MP business. Every MP contracts out all SPs (and receptionists typically too). All the studio is in the business of is the rental of a room, and providing an introduction. All other agreements are made between SP and client. For an MP to offer the business' room fee income back on an agreement of services between SP and client would be acknowledging that they are operating a bawdy house. A respectable MP will offer to compensate your room fee in the hopes of you returning to see another one of their contacted SPs, but to offer you back $ from bad service would put the MP owner in a dangerous place. (Another reason to collect room fees up front - it seperates the business' income from that of the SPs earnings). MPs can't really stand behind their contractor's services in many ways.....as they are not supposed to be aware of such services occuring within their establishments. Good ol loopholes in the system.
Sorry to hear of your bad experience(s) none the less....
Providing what she can't since 2006 !!
www.kendrachase.com
www.edmontonelite.com
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Today 12:28 AM #9 sperminator
Judge Lance Ito's #1 Fan
You really are new here, aren't you?
This topic has been discussed to death a billion times before--and everything you described can be summed up with four letters.
YMMV.
Your mileage may vary.
Not every client will receive the same level of service from every lady regardless of whether you're her first or her 10th for that day.
Virtually every lady will do her best to make sure her client walks away happy. Some ladies, however, will still do their utter best but the client will not walk away happy.
Why is that?
Is it because of something called chemistry--or the lack thereof? Is it because the lady was having an "off day"? Is it because the client was expecting too much? Is it because the client didn't communicate clearly to the lady what he wanted and there was a communicaton mix-up?
Man alive, I wrote one of the most infamous negative reviews of all time on this board because I felt the lady didn't give two flying phukks about me and the resulting hooplah and drama that ensued were more than what you find on 20 soap operas.
Man alive!
(BTW, for the record, that review is now long gone, deleted at my request).
But, back to the subject at hand . . .
As clients, we have a reasonable right to expect reasonably good service from the ladies in return for our money but I do understand now that not everything will go perfectly in each and every session with each and every lady.
Again, why is that?
There are a myriad of factors than can, and will, affect the quality of a session, some of which I have listed (see above).
I always do my utter best to be pleasant, friendly, in good humour, well-groomed, well-behaved, and accomodating when with a lady and I always, for the most part, have very good sessions and walk away happy.
My last session that took place January 3 of this year didn't go so well. Needless to say, it was not the lady's fault. It was mine. I will not go into details but suffice it so say, I did my utter best to keep the conversation going during the session because the silence in the room was DEAFENING (she wasn't a big talker, to say the least). I also tried to insert some humour into the conversation but the lady simply didn't say more than 60 words during the entire session. In hindsight, it wasn't because she was trying to be rude. In hindsight, I realize she really didn't find me too physically attractive although she did, I hope, find my company to be pleasant. I could tell immediately there was no physical attraction. Truth be told, I wasn't too physically attracted to her either but I did my very best to make the most of the situation.
When the session ended and both of us were showering and towelling off, she and I engaged in some casual and friendly chit-chat but I still couldn't get the impression whether she really wanted me to come back and see her although she did say she wanted me to come back and see her.
Sure, it could have been the money talking (without repeat clients, she'd be out of business, as the saying goes) . . . but I really don't think she was too keen on my returning to see her. I really think she was just trying to be pleasant. She gave me a huge and kiss before I left but, still, . . . .
But . . . where was I . . . ?
Oh, yes.
Sometimes, despite the very best efforts that both parties put in, the result is simply YMMV.
Yup.
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Today 12:39 AM #10 Bad Santa
Originally Posted by sperminator
But . . . where was I . . . ?
Oh, yes.
Sometimes, despite the very best efforts that both parties put in, the result is simply YMMV.
Yup.
Spermie!
You actually posted something that made sense for once. OMG!
Okay everyone, im relatively new to this whole business, but Im curious about some of your experiences. Ive been to a few MPs now and it almost seems like the norm is becoming that the ladies seem to be working way to much for what they can handle.
Now im not saying it not a great time, it is...but when do the ladies start taking into account that with the quantity of customers, the quality seems to diminish? Does the studio step in and take into account complete customer satisfaction for which they all claim to strive for? Should there start to be some kind of discount with the number of client during the day? Ive always tried to time my appoints for when they come onto shift to avoid this problem...but no luck.
So whats your guys take on the issue? Does it happen to anyone else but me, or is it the fact that im new to everything to do with ladies and this is normal?
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Yesterday 05:18 PM
#2 PeaceGuy
Official keeper of the LG
Something like you describe has happened to to me from time to time. If it were to happen the first time I see a lady, I would likely see other ladies from then on & post a review. If I've had a good session or two with the lady in question & then have this occur, I've generally chalked it up to one of those days that everyone gets from time to time & keep her on the rotation. If a pattern arises with a previously enjoyable SP, I see generally other ladies from then on.
Please note that I recognize that I for one have issues that constrain the position options for the ladies & cause me to take more time then many other pooners. However at the same time I'm paying a fair price to have fun. But fun is generally found in the action & the finish, while important, is not critical for me (to the consternation of many suddenly insecure ladies). So long as I'm having fun, I don't cross them off the list. But I do spend more time where I'm having the most fun.
I'm not looking to get married or anything.
I just want some nice lady to raise my little guy.
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#3 threepeat
IMHO girls try to pace themselves over the course of their shift, so even if you arrive first that doesn't guarantee being able to go at it longer with them... it has more to do with mileage. If you have a good relationship with a girl, you will get better treatment, regardless of how fresh she is.
Try to build a good rapport with a girl over a few visits and see if things improve. If not, go elsewhere.
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#4 Bootsy
Never had this problem, but then I don't usually last past 5 minutes, followed by 55 minutes of me crying and insisting it's usually not like this.
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Yesterday 11:16 PM #5 sperminator
Judge Lance Ito's #1 Fan
I always book my session during the start of my favourite lady's shift. I want to be her first for that shift.
Why?
It's because I'm a selfish bastard, that's why.
Originally Posted by Bootsy
Never had this problem, but then I don't usually last past 5 minutes, followed by 55 minutes of me crying and insisting it's usually not like this.I last 3 seconds and spend the remaining 59 minutes and 57 seconds talking about my crocodile shoes.
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Yesterday 11:20 PM #6 Bootsy
Originally Posted by sperminator
I last 3 seconds and spend the remaining 59 minutes and 57 seconds talking about my crocodile shoes.I'm including my shower in the 5 minutes, so it's closer to 4 minutes 38 seconds for a quick shower, 22 seconds of "gittin it on" and THAN me crying.
That's why I don't do duos. I'd rather disappoint one lady at a time.
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Today 12:07 AM #7 jdtipper
K I think this is going in the wrong direction than what i expected.
Does anyone else have issue with paying full price, expecting great service and then getting excuses for subpar performances? Even getting a girl at start of shift doesnt guarantee 100%. Midway through my session I hear about some guy being to rough a couple days before, or having worked some 14 hr shifts...that now affects my session.
Should the studios not compensate clients for this? I know its all about the almighty dollar, but its not like they warn you up front that they are tired, and we cant stop halfway through and demand our money back...
I dont think im being greedy or expect too much, but i try to please the lady first before we start on me, and all through session I try to keep her happy. That might be my problem though.
Maybe im a cheap ass i dont know....but do you guys recommend anyone or any place that actually put customer satisfaction first?
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Today 12:24 AM #8 Kendra_Chase
Elite Retreat
This problem exists due to the fascade/cover and legalities of the MP business. Every MP contracts out all SPs (and receptionists typically too). All the studio is in the business of is the rental of a room, and providing an introduction. All other agreements are made between SP and client. For an MP to offer the business' room fee income back on an agreement of services between SP and client would be acknowledging that they are operating a bawdy house. A respectable MP will offer to compensate your room fee in the hopes of you returning to see another one of their contacted SPs, but to offer you back $ from bad service would put the MP owner in a dangerous place. (Another reason to collect room fees up front - it seperates the business' income from that of the SPs earnings). MPs can't really stand behind their contractor's services in many ways.....as they are not supposed to be aware of such services occuring within their establishments. Good ol loopholes in the system.
Sorry to hear of your bad experience(s) none the less....
Providing what she can't since 2006 !!
www.kendrachase.com
www.edmontonelite.com
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Today 12:28 AM #9 sperminator
Judge Lance Ito's #1 Fan
You really are new here, aren't you?
This topic has been discussed to death a billion times before--and everything you described can be summed up with four letters.
YMMV.
Your mileage may vary.
Not every client will receive the same level of service from every lady regardless of whether you're her first or her 10th for that day.
Virtually every lady will do her best to make sure her client walks away happy. Some ladies, however, will still do their utter best but the client will not walk away happy.
Why is that?
Is it because of something called chemistry--or the lack thereof? Is it because the lady was having an "off day"? Is it because the client was expecting too much? Is it because the client didn't communicate clearly to the lady what he wanted and there was a communicaton mix-up?
Man alive, I wrote one of the most infamous negative reviews of all time on this board because I felt the lady didn't give two flying phukks about me and the resulting hooplah and drama that ensued were more than what you find on 20 soap operas.
Man alive!
(BTW, for the record, that review is now long gone, deleted at my request).
But, back to the subject at hand . . .
As clients, we have a reasonable right to expect reasonably good service from the ladies in return for our money but I do understand now that not everything will go perfectly in each and every session with each and every lady.
Again, why is that?
There are a myriad of factors than can, and will, affect the quality of a session, some of which I have listed (see above).
I always do my utter best to be pleasant, friendly, in good humour, well-groomed, well-behaved, and accomodating when with a lady and I always, for the most part, have very good sessions and walk away happy.
My last session that took place January 3 of this year didn't go so well. Needless to say, it was not the lady's fault. It was mine. I will not go into details but suffice it so say, I did my utter best to keep the conversation going during the session because the silence in the room was DEAFENING (she wasn't a big talker, to say the least). I also tried to insert some humour into the conversation but the lady simply didn't say more than 60 words during the entire session. In hindsight, it wasn't because she was trying to be rude. In hindsight, I realize she really didn't find me too physically attractive although she did, I hope, find my company to be pleasant. I could tell immediately there was no physical attraction. Truth be told, I wasn't too physically attracted to her either but I did my very best to make the most of the situation.
When the session ended and both of us were showering and towelling off, she and I engaged in some casual and friendly chit-chat but I still couldn't get the impression whether she really wanted me to come back and see her although she did say she wanted me to come back and see her.
Sure, it could have been the money talking (without repeat clients, she'd be out of business, as the saying goes) . . . but I really don't think she was too keen on my returning to see her. I really think she was just trying to be pleasant. She gave me a huge and kiss before I left but, still, . . . .
But . . . where was I . . . ?
Oh, yes.
Sometimes, despite the very best efforts that both parties put in, the result is simply YMMV.
Yup.
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Today 12:39 AM #10 Bad Santa
Originally Posted by sperminator
But . . . where was I . . . ?
Oh, yes.
Sometimes, despite the very best efforts that both parties put in, the result is simply YMMV.
Yup.
Spermie!
You actually posted something that made sense for once. OMG!
