Because I didn't get into this until about 2003. But I was just wondering for those of you who are older that have been doing this for awhile, who did you talk to about prostitution before the internet? Because obviously there weren't these forums. I know for finding women, there was still ads in the paper and phonebook. But I mean just for conversation about this sort a thing like we do on here, what did you do? I ask because you can't really go up to somebody on the street and strike up a convo about prostitution, so it's good that we do have these forums. But before the net, there wasn't even these, so it looks like there was even less of a voice for johns and sp's.
Older Johns, who did you talk to about prostitution before the internet?
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Like Hatrick says - No one.........but I was overseas most of my youth and sp's were everywhere. It's only North America and particularly the US that has a problem with this. Blame religion.
Give it a rest already!
Locally I there was the Buy n Sell and GS internationally I couldnt land in a major (or not so major for that matter) city and not run into the local P4P scene. You just develop a nose for it
More accurately, blame Churchism's interpretations of Judaic-Christian religion. Moses' ten commandments only referred to not coveting your neighbour's wife (although the Torah has 613 commandments!), and Christ's teaching has only two commandments.... to love God and to love others (with these two, all the rest takes care of itself).
All the moralistic intervention into folks' behaviour arose a whole lot later as a facet of mind control, an area where also evangelists and uneducated political wingnuts (think Beck and Limbaugh, who amazingly makes $50 million a year) in the USA excel.
As for the true essence of Judaic-Christian religion, look to the Kabbalah, Essenes and Nazareans. There are not-general-public consumption esoteric teachings at the core, which have little to do with mind and behaviour control.
Please, no offense meant to anyone. I respect all religions at their core, but do take issue with how they are presented by the religious hierarchy.
And, as to the OP's question, I learned about SPs primarily from the media's obsession with the sex trade. From there, it was all direct experience, discovering more going along.
In Vancouver, the only information available was ads in the Buy and Sell. You called from a land line phone. There was no such thing as caller ID or mobile phones. You asked for either her rate for a half hour or one hour. One hour meant full service, and half hour meant blowjob. She told you the location of a pay phone near her, and you called her from there to get instructions of her address, buzzer number, etc.
And the Westender. There used to be more ads in the Province and Sun as well for indys, but now I think it is all agency. Those papers really priced themselves out of the market.
These papers used to have tons of ads; both indy and agency. Used to be about the only place to find an indy off street.
Was the Westender for me and if it was weekend at night it was a drive down Seymor or a trip inside the Penthouse. Few years later was the Buy and Sell.
I'm familiar with the terms they use here. I'm just use to saying what most people say. Besides I don't like the sound of the word "pooner". And SP or service provider sounds very formal.
Years and Years ago I was a bartender in a couple of upscales in town. You got to know the working girls fairly well. Also got to know the gold-diggers and the barfloozies. Quiet nights brought some pretty good conversations. I also had a SO who worked at a R & T so got some good info.
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we developed real good spidey senses for phone calls, and could read volumes into the tones of a prostitute's voice, her reactions to being questioned about services provided, her delivery when asked to describe herself...
that's why i get so impatient with people who ccontinually ask for information to be handed to them rather than do a simple bit of research themselves
we developed real good spidey senses for phone calls, and could read volumes into the tones of a prostitute's voice, her reactions to being questioned about services provided, her delivery when asked to describe herself...
that's why i get so impatient with people who ccontinually ask for information to be handed to them rather than do a simple bit of research themselves
Interesting, because it's still kinda like that in the states even today with the internet.
What you don't understand is that there was no time for mere talking back then, as the streets were flush with young talent which was constantly replenishing itself. The number of willing working girls on select city blocks back in the 1980's would astound those scraping around Craigslist in search of half of the glimmer of eager companions routinely visible by the score at roadside way back when. If you were to reduce the Craigslist ads of today down to unique working girls you just wouldn't have the vast appeal of, say, Richards street or Georgia street back in the 1980's. Besides, drugs weren't as prominent or as serious out on the streets back then.
Before escort review boards, there was nobody to talk to about the hobby.
Up until the late 90s, I used to cruise what used to be Edmonton's high-track. There was no outlet for reviews, or for keeping people informed of bad SWs. You had to talk to the SW and trust your instincts. I got rolled only a couple of times, but I also had some lasting fuck-buddy relationships with some reputable SWs.
After that SW scene dried up, I was made aware of the MP scene, thanks to a news report and a city councillor! Again, when choosing a good MP, I had no reviews to go by. All I did was look at the classifieds of the Edmonton SUN, decided Cloud 9 had the most appealing ad, and went over. Saw an SP named Maria, got hooked on her and other girls there, and never looked back. I saw other MP girls, but I had to rely on the meet-and-greet.
It wasn't until a year or two later that a then-popular SP named Kitt told me about the existence of an escort review board called Canbest. I lurked Canbest but didn't want to pay for a membership. I then discovered PERB - haven't looked back!
Up until the late 90s, I used to cruise what used to be Edmonton's high-track. There was no outlet for reviews, or for keeping people informed of bad SWs. You had to talk to the SW and trust your instincts. I got rolled only a couple of times, but I also had some lasting fuck-buddy relationships with some reputable SWs.
After that SW scene dried up, I was made aware of the MP scene, thanks to a news report and a city councillor! Again, when choosing a good MP, I had no reviews to go by. All I did was look at the classifieds of the Edmonton SUN, decided Cloud 9 had the most appealing ad, and went over. Saw an SP named Maria, got hooked on her and other girls there, and never looked back. I saw other MP girls, but I had to rely on the meet-and-greet.
It wasn't until a year or two later that a then-popular SP named Kitt told me about the existence of an escort review board called Canbest. I lurked Canbest but didn't want to pay for a membership. I then discovered PERB - haven't looked back!
It was tough in those days, every encounter with a new girl was an adventure. Often not good. I started pooning in the early 80's when the higher class SW's worked the stroll in Edmonton. Met some great gals there but if you found a good one you stuck with her as a regular to cut down on your bad experiences.
In the late 80's, I think around about 1988 Edmonton's first MP, "Head to Toe Massage" opened and I never looked back either. It was just so much better of an experience. Because of the stricter enforcement of the anti-soliciting laws on the street it wasn't long before most of the better looking SPs moved to the MPs and away from the street.
With the advent of boards like PERB. God, it's so much better for the pooner today.
It was and still is like going to the casino. It is always a gamble. I don’t put much into this internet stuff as seen to many girls get started with their own fake reviews and then have their bf on back up with another handle. I lost count how many times folks discussed in back channel how things did not work out like the reviews claim.
