MP owners as businessmen/women

[rubintugger]

As you can tell by my handle, I love a good MP(Massage Parlour), and a good MPA(MP Attendant) skilled in the old Rub and Tug.

Like most perbites, I've dreamed of owning an MP. Watching these people and the way they run thier businesses and still survive, you can't help but think that a competant businessman/woman could make a killing at it.

Maybe this thread could be a little constructive criticism for the MP owners in this town, to make our MP visits better...

The main asset of an MP is its staff. A great MPA in a dive does better than a poor MPA in a spotless spa. And the better the MPA does, the better the MP does. So, rather than chasing away your best assets when they decide to explore the indy route, encourage them to stay part time. Be an attraction for the MP. One of the best ladies I've ever been with, (she's not local) still puts in the occasional shift at an MP, for her fans who love the MP experiance. I bet that MP owner gets a lot of walk-ins who go there just in case she's on, and a lot of her clients that see her there get exposed to new ladies and new things happening at the MP.

Winnipeg MP owners seem to feel that a girl going indy is going to steal all thier clients, and they do thier best to alienate and disassociate with the lady. Don't they realize that guys that use MP's do it for a reason? That most MP goers wouldn't see a girl if she was independant? And those that would are already seeing independants, just not thiers?

The problem I see happening is that the good MPA's go independant, and rather than stealing the MP's clients, they steal other independants clients, forcing those bad independants to find other work, usually in an MP. So, by getting rid of a girl who goes indy, the MP may end up getting back an MPA that failed as an indy...

It just seems that there is an adversarial atmosphere in the MP's between management and staff. Rarely do you hear nice things said about the MP owners here. Other places, there are MP's that the girls compete to get into, and those girls are happy. Happy MPA's make for happy clients, and happy clients are more likely to repeat, and repeat more often.

Doesn't that make sense???

Maybe we PERBerts should band together, pool our resources, start an MP, steal all the best talent by treating them like they should be taken care of, and set a higher standard for the local industry.

My two cents worth...

Rubin

 

[logsplitter]

I'll bet that many of us have played with the idea. The problem for me and I suspect others is likely that their real life would preclude them from ever being named as one of the owners if the media ever got ahold of it. We simply have too much to loose.

Another problem for me would be that so much exposure to so many beautiful women all ready and willing to f**k would be too hard to resist my natural urges. It would be like having a craving for candy and owning a candy store. I would eat all of the inventory.

I remember a joke from my childhood that is probably appropriate around this. There was this farmer who had a herd of some 100 cows. He had 2 bulls. One was an older bull and the other one was brand new. The scene is set on a fine summer day when the farmer releases the bulls to run with the cows (for those of you that don't know much about farming it is common to keep the bulls away from the cows and then release them in co-ordination with the gestation period of the pregnancy so that the calves all come in early spring).

Having been just released the two bulls arrived upon the herd of cows. They are on a high hill overlooking the herd. The young bull paws his hoofs into the ground kicking up a lot of dust - he snorts and huffs and puffs in his excitment looking down at all of those females in heat. He says to the old bull - I can hardly wait. Lets run down and f**k the first cow that we get to. The old bull replied saying save your energy - lets walk down and f**k them all!

I wonder what attitude we would have towards women and sex if we owned a massage parlor? I am quite certain that I would be more like the old bull and the candy store owner!

 

[Avery]

I doubt that these establishments are the gold mines some people think they are. Not only that, I wouldn't want any part even of a mainstream business where all the employees are female, let alone a business that's unconventional like an incall/ MP. I know lots of female managers in regular businesses who say men are far easier to manage than women.

A couple of (female) escort agency owners in other cities have told me horror stories about the unreliability of many of their ladies and the jealousies, backbiting and infighting among them. And, those were quality agencies! Rubin and Log, I suspect that if you ever owned a MP, you wouldn't be be able to take the BS for long, and you'd put the place up for sale.

 

[logsplitter]

I'm also heard that posting work time schedules in such an all female establishment can be challenging due to certain days that are needed to be off on a 4 week cycle. The owner has to keep track of a lot of things and sychronize everything so the pleasure cycle can end with maximum cash in his/her jeans at the end of the day.

 

[big k]

Maybe Eric from Nevada could come on here and give us some words
of wisdom !!!! LOL

 

[Avery]

On the agency thing - I just thought it would be great to have an agency actually run like a proper business and not by crazy ladies who bait-n-switch, take the best/most calls for themselves and have lots of drug/stealing issues,

There are some agencies like that, but not in Winnipeg.

Select and Hollywood Escorts in Toronto have excellent reputations. My favourite was Allison's Adoring Angels (now defunct, regrettably). Allison had around 15 or so top-notch ladies working for her, and there were no issues like the ones you mentioned. The service was fantastic. Allison understood the concept of customer service, and wanted repeat business, unlike the bozos who own the agencies here.

 

[bonger]

I've heard that the city is no longer granting new lincenses for MPs, so there will not be any new ones until they change their policy.

 

[Jazmine_bunny]

Im comfortable

I live in Sakatoon but I really have to give you men some credit here Being an owner of a MP, and a MPA myself, I never really recognized that some of you can see things through the eyes of a female MP owner. A positive and happy work environment is essential no matter what business one is in. Yes, it is hard in this line of work too. I'm living comfortable at this moment of my life, but as for millions from revenue I can't see it . Making sure that everyone stays happy is a tough thing to handle, and in fact was a hard thing to control at other establishments that I worked at previously.

One girl might see another as competition for her, so she may not want to work shifts with her. Another girl is mad at another girl (probably for some petty reason anyway) but doesn't want to work with her. SO the owner trying to accommodate the situation may have to change the schedule a bit. Well guess what happens next The 2 girls from before are happy but this just messed up another girls weekend off. It's a never win situation and it's almost as if everyone in a sense would be mad at the owner either way right???

I have seen many girls leave MP's because of the shifts they had to work. OK, a girl is scheduled working 9am-3pm. No clients for her all day. 1:30pm hits and she just doesn't wanna be there anymore. the other girl doesn't get there until 2:45 to take her place, so the owner ( or manager) won't let her leave. Why should a girl that doesn't want to be there, and it reflects in the session keep in mind, be there? So she figures, fu*k this, I can go independent and work the hours I want to.

Let me tell you a story here.... bare with me, sometimes I get long winded

Myself and Sheila had initially decided to go independent together. We had prior notification that our current MP may not be around for much longer. So we were just making sure that we were going to be secure in the future. So we were alone happily independent, and had a call from one of the girls from the other studio. She had quit (do to some girly mess over there ) and was in need of a place to possibly work from. Ok, sure, we like her, why not. So now were a three. About three weeks later we receive another call and the other studio had closed. Got and room for more?? Being that we knew the girls, and had left on friendly terms with them, and had kind of figured that this was going to happen, we said sure, knowing what kind of a position they were in. Instantly expanded within one month, and became a "studio".

Many MP's charge the girls a monthly rate, receptionist fees, or ridiculous room charges. I know how it felt on some days to not see a client and know that you would still be in a negative dollar amount than when you walked in due to these charges. You bet I was even grumpier after that . Try 2 days like that in a row, and hummm your now out say $60 in fees for receptionist, so your only going to get a little less than half your next say $250, because you now owe another $40 for this room charge, and $30 receptionist on the 1st client in 3 days. Anyhow, I'm thinking your getting my point

That's why when we decided to take in the other girls we decided...hey I'm not out to take all your money, I'm just here to help you make some money, and have you help me out with the bills a little in return. So we have no fees, the girls work their own hours, and only ask that everyone contributes (Myself and Sheila as well) $20 per client room rental to the appointment book. Keeping things this way seems to keep everyone in a happy mood (generally), and all problems that normally occur in an MP never have to be addressed.

wheeew...ok, just had to get a little of that out there.
~Jaz~

 

[rubintugger]

Great post Jaz. I have a solution for the "one girl won't work if another one is working" problem.

I have a standing policy in my business that if a staff member comes to me and tells me that they can't work with someone, then we consider that as not being able to fulfill thier employment agreement and they are then terminated. End of story.

This way, they know they have to learn to get along with each other, or lose thier job. Quite a good incentive to co-operate.

The way I look at it, if someone is working for me, I must think they are worthwhile. So, rather than be held to an ultimatum of "its either them or me", I let the employee make the decision. You can't get along with someone? Then you can't work here.

Haven't had to fire anyone over that yet...

Rubin

 

[AmericanDad]

Let's list all the former MPA's that have gone on to success as indie providers;

- Oshean
- Tiffany
- Jessica
- Holly
- Caryn
- Monica
- Julie
- Chantal
- Savannah

I know there's more, but I'm a blank ... Mandy, Kerry, Lynn, are there more I'm missing???

 

[Packet]

a little off topic

Which Julie? Is it someone recent?
Thanks in advance.

Let's list all the former MPA's that have gone on to success as indie providers;

- Oshean
- Tiffany
- Jessica
- Holly
- Caryn
- Monica
- Julie
- Chantal
- Savannah

I know there's more, but I'm a blank ... Mandy, Kerry, Lynn, are there more I'm missing???

 

[Avery]

Which Julie? Is it someone recent?
Thanks in advance.

Julie on E-C worked in two or three MP's before going indy a few years ago. AFAIK, she's the only Julie.