how to help this girl

[bloodwar]

hello
this is my 1st time post (my english is not very good) sorry about this
ok this is the story. one of my friend she is working in mp.I just find out why she doing this. Because her boyfriend lost over$130000.00 in casino and all the money is from her 10 gold credit cards ( i still dont know how can they do it ) anyway now she is working but her boyfriend dont . Still hang around in casino all day.and just find out he hit her once a while.it really make me mad. and now he is try to date another girl.the worst part is she is only half wake up she still deep in love with this ass*****
I really want to help her in legal way ( I have a history of criminal record) police wont trust me.I dont want to do it in illegal way .not because of i scare him.I just dont want to go through my criminal exprience again at least not because of him( i am a good man now).I know he will read this post he is one of this perb member.I dont give him a shit you come get me you are welcome you pay big price i guarantee you.
Now can anyone teach me how to handlle this. I know this is totally non of my business. But I think i need to clean up this human garbage. At least he wont hurt another woman.If any cop reading this who can trust me you can private message me but can any people teach me how to enable this private message function.
This is a true story it take me 1 hour to write this ( my english is no good at all)please help me and my friend
thank you

 

[vigor]

First, She should declare bancrupcy. The cost of credit vs the cost of her freedom of choice is worth it. Secondly she should consult a women's centre to seek shelter from the abuse. Consult a free credit advisor. Even a bank manager can help with advice. I am an accountant so feel free to contact me for help. As for cleaning up the human garbage. The police and the law will be useless against him. It will be a long drawn out legal procedure that will not offer any real compensation at the end. She cannot prove that he incurred those costs. There are ways outside the legal spectrum that can be used for "justice". Has anybody watched that old tv show"the equalizer"? Also some good sources would be "A-Team" and "City hunter". Bottom line, hit this guy where it hurts, it's not his body, it's not his wallet, it's his gangsta ego mentality. Odds are this guy operates on the fringes of legality. Probably in the crack or weed game. People like this have an illusion of strength, but really it is to hide their flagrant exposed weaknesses. Exploit these weaknesses and make him pay.

 

[Cock Throppled]

If you don't think the police can help I suggest you contact a lawyer to see what the legal options are.

 

[bloodwar]

thank you for reply
Frist my friend is a good person she still see her good future I mention to her about the bancrupcy she refuse to do it.
Second she still in love with him i dont know why

 

[eskie]

Bloodwar, I can advise you a bit on matters of credit. If her boyfriend is not a joint cardholder or an authorized user on her account, she is (more or less) not legally responsible for any of the debt he runs up on her cards. She can try declaring fraud and say he used them without her permission. The problem is that she'll have to fill out a police report, and convince them that he stole her cards from her.

Bankruptcy is an option, but if she's a prostitute, she'll have to open up her whole financial history and spending habits to the lawyers and accountants. She might even lose control of her money for a while, and also she will have a lot of trouble getting credit in the future. That might be a good thing for her, but she sure won't enjoy it.

Another problem is that if she's still in love with this guy, he'll probably do it again and she'll probably let him do it again.

Bloodwar, I admire that you want to help this girl, and I admire even more that you are now a good man who wants to remain a good man. Unfortunately, she's going to have to fight a lot of this battle herself, and wake up and realize this guy is scum.

In a perfect world, what she would do is get this guy out of her life, tell police he stole her cards from her and racked up all the debt, get the credit companies to write off the bad debt as fraud, and move on with her life.

But love is blind...

Good luck to both of you.

 

[spaceghost]

I mention to her about the bancrupcy she refuse to do it.
Second she still in love with him i dont know why

Then you have done what you can.

Time to MYOB.

 

[D Duk]

I hate to say it but the problem is not with this guy, the problem is your friend.

Obviously this guy is no good, but she needs to want to help herself!

This is the classic case of pimp control over a woman. Pimp says I love you and if you love me you will do this for me.

This guy is dating another woman because your friend's usefulness as a bank machine is over. However, if he sells her butt, then he has a chance to make more withdrawals.

The key is your friend. Why did she give him the money? It was likely done without fraud because all of the credit card companies would have a security alert with that much cash going out and they would have checked with her. Logically, she willingly let him use her credit cards.

Now she won't declare backruptcy, she won't go after him legally and she is selling her butt! Unfortunately, you have no way to help unless she wants help and she is willing to act on it.

It is like trying to cure a drug addict. It is a difficult task at best and impossible if the addict does not want be cured at all.

Unless your friend is willing to do what it takes to get out of this mess, I am sorry to say but your efforts will not work at all.

Try making her realize that this guy is using her like a bank account and he is pimping her out! That is your only hope.

Every cloud has a silver lining and in your dark past, I see that there is an ounce of humanity. I could be wrong, but I also suspect that you have some deep, perhaps romantic feelings towards this woman. If this is the case, perhaps let her know the feelings from your heart and perhaps this will break this bad man's spell.

Generally speaking, women who are bound to a despicable man like that have a deep seated need to be loved and desired. This man probably knows that and is using that to his advantage.

If you have any feelings for this woman, I suggest that you let her know your feelings and that a man who truly loves a woman, would never MAKE her become a prostitute. With an ounce of love, respect and reason, you might be able to break the spell she is under.

Good luck!

 

[OTR2]

Just curious, when did being an asshole boyfriend who doesn't work, racks up gambling bills on his girlfriends credit card and wanting to date another woman become a crime?

Don't think the police have enough tazers to go zap all the perps. Perps, not PERBS.

 

[Lurker 123]

Just curious, when did being an asshole boyfriend who doesn't work, racks up gambling bills on his girlfriends credit card and wanting to date another woman become a crime?

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It is not a crime,but moralistically is not acceptable socially!

 

[Hit Man]

Welcome to the board Blood. Wash your hands of the entire affair. There's no helping those that won't help themselves.

 

[bloodwar]

thank you for all the advice
I only have 2 reason to post this review
1 is I want to find the way to wake up my friend whatever she done this guy was not froce her to do she did sign her name by herself . for 10 credit card thing thats the question to me too.She might get some of the money from some other people .Thats what I guess I hope not.I like her as a good friend .I have my wife i love her very much so you wont see me review on escort or massage board. my name will only on this post.
second reason is i know he is a regular perb member thats why i know this board.I am waiting for him come to me.I can have my self-defence reason to do somethig.and get away with police.but he is a chicken shit .hope he will come soon
again thank you for all your advice i will pass it to her

 

[D Duk]

Bloodwar, I would recommend that you not do anything to this man!!!

The existence of these board messages in itself will make you a prime suspect and with what you have posted, you have no defendable position in a criminal court of law. The very implication that you are trying to encourage aggressive action from this person, shows intent to provoke which regardless of how much you do something in self defense, the law will question the degree of force you have used and the fact that you have mens rhea and actus rheus (guilty mind and guilty action).

Do not even think about exposing this person publicly as you can also be charged for defamation of character in a libel suit since you have not shown proof that this is what the person is doing. From a legal perspective, this woman could have given this man the money as a gift because she loves him and he decided to spend it in the casino. As a result of her debt, she may have willingly chosen to become a MP girl. None of these actions in themselves are illegal or coerced!

Remember that the law is not necessarily about justice and who is right but it is about who has a good lawyer and who shows a more convincing picture beyond a reasonable doubt.

If you have a family and assets, this can make you vulnerable to a civil law suit if you continue down this path (a young greedy lawyer could take on a libel suit on contingency fee which means that this man can legal pursue you with little cost to himself), and if you do anything to provoke aggressive physical interaction, you could face criminal prosecution (and with a prior record and the evidence on this board, the courts will already negatively favor your side of the argument).

Your best action is to help let your friend open her eyes to see the truth and also let the police know what is going on. If it can be shown that there was intent for this bad man to get your friend to work in a MP, then he could be criminally charged for living off of the avails of prostitution. This legal charge is more likely to stick with the help of your friend. She must be willing to report the man and testify against him. In such a situation she might also be able to do a civil suit and transfer the debt legally (without having to declare bankruptcy) to this man instead of continuing to carry the burden herself.

At the very least, I would say a high roller like this man is also involved with other shady transactions which would make him a person of interest for the police to at least have a look at. If he is blowing $130k in the casino, then he likely has other sources of revenue like drugs sales, fencing stolen goods, prostitution involvement or other criminal activities that the vice squad would be interested in.

For your sake, I highly recommend that you stay out of trying to provoke a reaction from this man.

Also any further advice or communications you require, I would recommend that you use private messages and minimize what you physically say (or at least keep it vague enough that a lawyer cannot concretely say what you meant by your statements).

The law is a double edged sword. You might be correct in your intent and actions but with good lawyers acting against you, you could end up paying dearly for your interference. This would also affect your wife and family which ultimately means that this bad man's actions will hurt more innocent people.

PS - to use private messaging, simply go to a post from a member and click the "profile" link BELOW the post (I stupidly hit the one above once before and sent the message to the wrong person) and then when the member's profile comes up, click the "send private message to member" link. The rest after that is pretty straightforward.

 

[Massagegirl]

Bloodwar, you can't help her, noone can!! She needs to learn to help herself, and all your help is delaying her from finding it herself.

Offer moral support if you must but make her do eveything on her own. Some people have to hit rock bottom before they come to their senses, so don't delay the inevitable. She will reach a point one day where enough is enough, then she will start again.

I do recommend bankruptcy, it goes off your record in 7 years . Then she will need to start building a new credit rating. She should be carrying cash, isn't all that hard!

 

[Lolita]

Besides you can't force you help on someone who doesn't want it.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

Good question...

How do you get 10 gold credit cards?

In fact, the best question to come out of this thread... Assuming $130,000 / 10 cards = $13K per card. She must have rich parents, or we're being strung along here. Someone that young is lucky to get a $500 limit on any credit card. Credit card companies are real picky nowadays about a person's financial status and net worth. And they are painfully slow about increasing limits. To get that many cards with those kinds of limits, she must be a lawyer or doctor. Or like I said before... Rich parents? In which case, she would be on their account. It doesn't add up...

What we all need in here, is a healthy dose of scepticism...

 

[Lurker 123]

How do you get 10 gold credit cards?

It is not too difficult!

I guessed she must had a large lum sum in her saving account before. If one bank approved her to have a $10,000 credit card, the other banks will automatically pre-approved her to have a few others for the sake of business competition!e.g. from time to time other banks send me pre-approved forms!Even I have six cards myself!

Very likely this girl had spent all her saving ,on top she maxed out all her credit cards!Poor thing!

In a way this guy has been exploiting her financially!

 

[Maury Beniowski]

So you have six cards. Even having $1,000,000 in your account doesn't say anything about your paying habits. In fact, the ones who are granted the highest limits are those that pay the minimum due. That is the kind of business banks are seeking. Ask them... As for the other credit grantors, they all walk to the same step and use the same rating system, and that is "Equifax". Equifax is company that maintains a pool of data subscribed to by banks and credit grantors, or even small businesses. You can join them, for a fee, and obtain instant or written credit reports on anyone you are considering issuing credit to.

What limits did the banks give you to start off? They are normally max. $5K or less, to consumers with a pristine credit record.

The pre-approved limits you speak of are not worth the paper they are written on. I get those all the time... $50K+. They are marketing tools, not a validation of credit approval. That comes later when you send the form in.

I wouldn't feel too sorry for her. If she really does exist, she should have gone into this with her eyes open.

Cute story though! It really grabs you, doesn't it?

 

[hitrack]

I think the real issue here is her boyfreinds bad luck at gambeling. He sucks. Get some good luck charms.

 

[Fudd]

I also think this story sounds a bit far fetched.
The ideal of someone else racking up $130,000 your credit card and not filing charges or claiming fraudulent transactions sounds too unbelievable.

 

[broadway]

whick mp is she working at?