Honest Advice from SPs and their Gentlemen

Aug 6, 2007
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I, as my handle implies, have recently scored a (?potential?) sugar daddy.

I've never taken a donation for the joy of play before, but recently after hanging out with a friend after a pretty grueling work week I mentioned something about really wanting a sugar daddy to make life a little easier. Tuition is a bitch, especially when a girl's on her own in sunny Van, land of the outrageous C.O.L. Doesn't help much when you're also the kinda lady who knows how and when to send back improperly prepped fois gras and Looooves custom hippie embroidery, both of which being in absentia from life for the last few years. (yes, I am aware of the implied ethical paradox...what can I say, I'm a strange kid)

Anyways, the universe provided and the first date was good. He seems very respectful of my boundaries, open to me keeping my academic schedule a priority, put his money where his mouth was, and to my initial surprise, a hell of a lot of fun to be around. At the end of our date, the only thing that made me feel just a little strange was taking cash and that disappeared once it hit the bank.

I'm don't see myself being an escort, I polish up well, but can blend into any setting business/prof, academic, etc...I take decent care of my body but definitely am not in escort 'fit'. I am also fortunate to be pretty sexually realized for younger lady. Some of the most well put together ladies I have known are trade workers and I think that if society was a little more put together it would/should be a respected profession. At this stage though, i don't think it will be a full time job for me.

But, If you want to learn CPR you take training from a paramedic with experience. I can see the logic being applicable. I'd appreciate some feedback from you 'perb'ites about the following questions re: my situation.

1.) I really don't care about what daddi's been up to, but he has a solid grasp of some of the trade lingo and has made reference to not being interested in SPs on a GFE level because he really hates the drama.
Am I out of line to ask for a safer sex contract, initial/regular testing, condoms? I have an IUD to take care of the obvious calamity, but copper ain't a viruscide...

2.) I'm not a professional SP, I'm self sustainable (barely) so it's not survival. I don't want to feel cheap with a lowball req. for donation, at the same time, I've just started to put a price on something I always thought of as something to be shared and never put out as a service (?by me till now?) under scarcity economics.
What are your thoughts on an arranged donation menu?
Where do I start with that?
Do I factor in the tab for other expenses on our date? (ie dinner...)
Do I factor in presents?
If something starts to go sideways how do I broach the subject without saying "Buddy, not enough," or "baby, can we work out an advance so I can clear up that tuition bill before I hit the classroom?"

3.) Should I take charge on the 'presents' front and set up a few wishlists at some of the local shops for his convenience and my joy? or is that way too presumptuous.

4.) Would he be way too presumptuous to say that I can't keep my play-buddies? Should we even really go there?

5.) Our styles jelled really well. I'm ambitious, he's self made. I'm actually kinda floored how smooth things went. At the same time, i don't have illusions about this, I like him, he likes me, that's where it's gonna stay. I do however respect myself, him and the arrangement.
Any etiquette/pre date prep pointers that I should make a part of this arrangement?

6.) Because this is not my primary trade, do you think I could get away with just asking him to set up an account and wire the donation to me so neither of us really handle cash during our dates?

7.) What should I be watching out for?

8.) Is it fair to ask him to give me advance notice of a date/ compensate me for keeping large time windows open for dates?

9.) Any final words of wisdom before I rev for round 2?


Thanks for your consideration and the time you took out of your days to slug through that post! I'd be happy to volunteer some work hours at a charity of an SPs trade related choice for the privilege of honest and detailed responses via PM.

Much Luv;

-:D Newb:p
 

Very Veronica

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1. Safety: Condoms are a non-negotiable for f/s in this biz as is testing.

2. Compensation: Entirely up to you. Some girls charge 100/hr, others 500. Depends how much you want to work. Gifts are like tips, not part of the fee.

3. Gifts: Give him a list of gifts/sizes or go shopping together.

4. Exclusivity: SD's often expect to be the only client but your personal friends/life is yours, imo.

5. Etiquette: Be professional, he is paying for a very special service.

6. Paying: Cash in hand at the beginning of the session makes everything clear including duration.

7. Pitfalls: Not being professional, ie. letting service slide, not maintaining personal/pro boundaries.

8. Deposit for longer dates: In an exclusive arrangement, imo, no. If you had other clients, maybe.

9. Final thought: Get over the guilt..paid sex makes good sense/cents.
 

SGTSLEUTH

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1. Safety: Condoms are a non-negotiable for f/s in this biz as is testing.

2. Compensation: Entirely up to you. Some girls charge 100/hr, others 500. Depends how much you want to work. Gifts are like tips, not part of the fee.

3. Gifts: Give him a list of gifts/sizes or go shopping together.

4. Exclusivity: SD's often expect to be the only client but your personal friends/life is yours, imo.

5. Etiquette: Be professional, he is paying for a very special service.

6. Paying: Cash in hand at the beginning of the session makes everything clear including duration.

7. Pitfalls: Not being professional, ie. letting service slide, not maintaining personal/pro boundaries.

8. Deposit for longer dates: In an exclusive arrangement, imo, no. If you had other clients, maybe.

9. Final thought: Get over the guilt..paid sex makes good sense/cents.

Good stuff VV, you rock! Thanks for your words of widom
 

uncleg

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would imply, at least to me an arrangement whereby, I take care of the bulk of your financial needs in return for your taking care of some of my personal needs. I would see it as an exclusive arrangement if I didn't have an SO. With an SO then a play buddy would not be an issue. I would suggest though that sugar daddy does not get the impression that he is also taking care of buddies finances along with yours. In this kind of situation, set up a fee for the month. Presents, dinners etc. are extra. Set up time frames for when you get together, you need time for school and personal time. The rest should be his, with some flexibility. You should have some lead time for visits from him, just dropping in could cause a problem. In essence a mistress relationship.
For personal comfort/safety reasons, condoms and regular check-ups would be in order.

On the flip side if you are going to go to donations per session, then it's one step from being an escort/SP. Consider that if his time with you on a pay per session basis does not pay the bills, can you raise the rates, but more important will he pay it ? Or, will it mean taking on another "sugar daddy" or client ?

At the end of the day, it is a business arrangement and your SD would appear to be a businessman, so treat it like a business, with perks.
 

wilde

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TheRater

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BTW, all of my comments that follow are pertaining to THIS situation only, basically a "mistress" for a sucessful gentleman.

1.) Safe sex. This is fun but safety is your life.

2.) If you are serious about a sugar daddy, look over east across the seas. Our cousins there have a slightly saner outlook on life. In this situation, taking care of rent and the occasional trip, with dinner out a lot and some presents would not be too much to expect in return for exclusivity. If it were me I would not let him pay for the tuition. Just a personal thing.

3.) Be casual yet specific. "I saw this wonderful dress/bracelet/set of golf clubs at store Y" when not overdone is a good way to play it. Then go shopping together.

4.) Again, a personal preference but as the 'kept woman' it is a sign of respect for you both to not play outside the play. If you really want to do that, then you should not be in this situation.

5.) Treat it as a brand new date each time with a guy you really like and are not hung up about sleeping with for fun with nothing further than that.

6.) As above, the classy way is to mention what the rent it, or that you are short of groceries.

7.) As mentioned by VV, and also not knowing when to call it quits.

8.) As #4

9.) Life is fun, treat it like it is. Be honest but not blunt.

Again, all comments above are based on the situation described, looking for a 'sugar daddy' equates to being a 'kept woman' so if your perception is different, well, that is your issue and not mine.

- TR
 
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