Floyd Landis...

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To all who think Lance Armstrong was clean, there's a call from New York; seems the Brooklyn Bridge is up for sale again...

Oh yeah, the same call can be taken by Carl Lewis apologists...
 

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Maury Beniowski said:
To all who think Lance Armstrong was clean, there's a call from New York; seems the Brooklyn Bridge is up for sale again...

Oh yeah, the same call can be taken by Carl Lewis apologists...

Yeah, it's just that Landis and Ben Johnson committed the cardinal sin in sports, They got Caught! :eek:
 

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Cinderella story with an unhappy ending.

Floyd Landis, the American cyclist who battled a bad hip to earn a stunning victory in the Tour de France, will have to fight to keep his title after a back-up sample also tested positive for doping.

CTV.ca News Staff

Tour de France Floyd Landis
The first sample collected by officials showed Landis had higher than acceptable levels of Testosterone.

The "B" sample has confirmed the "adverse analytical finding" of the first set of results, the International Cycling Union (UCI) said on Saturday.

Immediately after the results were released, Landis was dropped from his Swiss-based Phonak racing team, and the director of the Tour said Landis is no longer considered to be the race winner.

"It goes without saying that for us Floyd Landis is no longer the winner of the 2006 Tour de France," Tour director Christian Prudhomme told The Associated Press.

He also said Spanish second-place cyclist Oscar Pereiro will likely be awarded the title, however, he said it is up to the UCI to make that decision.

Landis, who maintains his innocence and has pledged to fight any charges, will be banned from racing for two years if he is found guilty of the allegations.

"I have never taken any banned substance, including testosterone," Landis said in a statement. "I was the strongest man at the Tour de France, and that is why I am the champion."

"I will fight these charges with the same determination and intensity that I bring to my training and racing. It is now my goal to clear my name and restore what I worked so hard to achieve."

Saturday's findings were released almost two weeks after Landis was named the winner of the grueling, multi-stage race held over three weeks.

The samples were analyzed at the Chatenay-Malabry lab outside Paris.

"The analysis of the sample B of Floyd Landis's urine has confirmed the result of an adverse analytical finding notified by the anti-doping laboratory of Paris on 26th July, following the analysis of the sample A," the International Cycling Union said.

The group said it was asking USA Cycling to begin disciplinary actions against Landis.

Phonak wasted no time firing Landis.

"Landis will be dismissed without notice for violating the teams internal Code of Ethics," the team said in a statement immediately after the second set of results were released.

"Landis will continue to have legal options to contest the findings. However, this will be his personal affair, and the Phonak team will no longer be involved in that."

A lawyer with UCI said Landis will keep the title until an American disciplinary process has concluded.

"Until he is found guilty or admits guilt, he will keep the yellow jersey," Philippe Verbiest said. "This is normal. You are not sanctioned before you are found guilty."

Landis would become the first Tour winner in the race's 103-year history to lose his title over doping.

Saturday's findings could spark months of appeals and legal arguments by Landis, who claims to have naturally high testosterone levels and categorically denies the allegations against him.

The explanations provided by Landis and his defence team for the high readings have ranged from cortisone shots taken for pain in his degenerating hip, to drinking beer and whiskey the night before, to thyroid medication and his natural metabolism.

"It doesn't end here," said Landis' Spanish lawyer, Jose Maria Buxeda. "What matters is the concept. A prohibited substance has been found in the samples, but no immediate sanction comes into effect yet. The rider will defend himself."

Eight other samples were taken during the tour, all of which came back negative.

The positive samples were taken on June 20 after Landis won the harsh Alpine stage of the race -- seen as the turning point in the race for Landis.

The case will likely be handled by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

American lawyer Howard Jacobs, who has represented several athletes in doping cases, will be handling Landis' case.

He plans to go after the UCI for allegedly leaking information regarding the testing, according to AP.

With files from The Associated Press
What a shame.
 

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rafterman said:
What a shame.
What's shameful is that this jackass thought he could cheat and get away with it. I'm sure he will continue to proclaim his innocence even after the second sample has now tested positive. The "I'm a victim!" defense is alive and well.
 

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metoo113 said:
Yeah, it's just that Landis and Ben Johnson committed the cardinal sin in sports, They got Caught! :eek:
Its almost 20 years later and I still would like to know what the hell happened to Johnson at Seoul. His test result was so bizarre in that he had so much unmetabolised Stanozolol in his urine sample that he would have had to have ingested the drug within a couple of hours before the test. The reality is that if this had happened to an athlete from a more powerful country than Canada there would have been a meeting behind closed doors and there result would have been thrown out. This is why labs are leaking information now in the past they've sat and watched as athletes tested positive but nobody ever heard about it.
 

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Maybe BC Visitor would like to amend his "facts" about poor old Floyd.
 

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Another damning report about Landis

Landis Had Synthetic Testosterone
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By JEAN-LUC COURTHIAL Associated Press Writer

August 05,2006 | PARIS -- Floyd Landis' doping samples contained synthetic testosterone, indicating the Tour de France champion's elevated levels were not produced naturally, the head of France's anti-doping commission said Saturday.

Pierre Bordry, who heads the French anti-doping council, said the lab found that testosterone in Landis' urine samples came from an outside source.

"I have received a text message from Chatenay-Malabry lab that indicates the 'B' sample of Floyd Landis' urine confirms testosterone was taken in an exogenous way," Bordry told The Associated Press.

The revelation could damage Landis' defense prospects. He has claimed the testosterone in his body was "natural and produced by my own organism."

The American cyclist's backup "B" sample came back positive Saturday, confirming the original "A" test.

Landis could be stripped of the Tour title and banned for two years.

Testosterone, a male sex hormone, helps build muscle and improve stamina. The urine tests carried out on Landis after his victory in the Tour's 17 stage turned up a testosterone/epitestosterone ratio of 11:1 -- far in excess of the 4:1 limit.

A report this week in the New York Times cited an unidentified source from the UCI as saying an analysis of Landis' first sample by carbon isotope ratio testing had detected synthetic testosterone, which indicated it had been ingested.

Jacques De Ceaurriz, the head of the Chatenay-Malabray lab, said the isotope testing procedure involving a mass spectrometer is totally reliable.

"It's foolproof. This analysis tells the difference between endogenous and exogenous," he told the AP. "No error is possible in isotopic readings."

Landis spokesman Michael Henson disputed that.

"There is no conclusive evidence that shows that this test can show definitively the presence of exogenous testosterone," Henson said.

But World Anti-Doping Agency chief Dick Pound said the tests were scientifically valid.

"The overwhelming scientific consensus would hold these tests are reliable and what they found is what they found," he told the AP. "Had there been any scientific difficulties or technical difficulties we would have heard about it."

Pound said confirmation of the synthetic testosterone finding would undermine any Landis defense.

"It's probably a very good preemptive move to close down yet another avenue of complaint or argument," he said. "The science is pretty well accepted. The history of these tests are pretty well established."

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Associated Press Writer Jamey Keaten and AP Sports Writer Stephen Wilson in London contributed to this report.

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Wonder how long it will be until he is officially stripped of his Tour de France win?
 

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What an idiot. Why would he take testosterone that far into the race. I could see if he took a stimulant but a dose of testosterone isn't going to boost performance in a short period of time.
 

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therealrex said:
Its almost 20 years later and I still would like to know what the hell happened to Johnson at Seoul.
I agree-there is no way he should have had that Stanozolol actually in his urine, metabolites yes but the actual steroid, no way.What is also odd is that one of his trainers acknowledged that he was doping, but not with Stanozolol! How hard would it be to spike a test? I've seen pictures of sample bottles at the Tour sitting on a tray in the test caravan with nobody around, if a photographer can get access to them surely others can.
 

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there is no reason to take the steroid while in the race. Take them during training sessions yes but not while racing (at least I have never heard of that).
Stanazol increases a persons energy level as well as being a slight muscle builder. Given that the failed test occured during a very dramatic comeback stage, it would not be that suprising
 

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felix29 said:
Stanazol increases a persons energy level as well as being a slight muscle builder. Given that the failed test occured during a very dramatic comeback stage, it would not be that suprising
Landis had an excess of testosterone, he had nothing to do with Stanozolol.
Stanozolol was mentioned in regard to Ben Johnson, who tested positive for it.
 

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Here's a column that contains some great innuendos on Landis, Armstrong, and does a pretty good job in summing up the current doping scandal.



Advice worth heeding: 'Run like you stole something'

By JIM LITKE, AP Sports Columnist
August 5, 2006

It was a small moment in a big race. Two years later, it still sounds like the best advice Floyd Landis ever got.

He was a helper on Lance Armstrong's team at the time and had never won even a single stage of the Tour de France. On a steamy July day, Landis unselfishly and unsparingly towed Armstrong to the crest of the last of the day's five hills. The pace was so withering that only three of Armstrong's toughest rivals -- Germans Jan Ullrich and Andreas Kloden, and Italian Ivan Basso -- were hanging around.


Eight miles away, at the end of a long, speedy descent into Le Grand-Bornand, lay the finish line. Armstrong draped an arm across Landis' shoulder.

"How bad do you want to win a stage of the Tour de France?" he asked.

"Real bad," Landis replied.

"How fast can you go downhill?" Armstrong said.

"Real fast!" came the reply.

"Then run," Armstrong said, "like you stole something, Floyd!"

That brief exchange likely had only one meaning at that moment. But in hindsight, it may explain why Armstrong has consistently outraced the shadows of doping in a dirty sport and Landis may never get out from under them.

Early in what turned out to be the first of seven straight titles, Armstrong learned a lesson he never forgot. He won the opening stage in 1999 and everybody in France loved him. The Tour was still reeling from a drug scandal the year before, and as a cancer survivor with no performance-enhancing allegations clouding his past, Armstrong became its poster boy.

All those good feelings didn't even survive the midpoint of that year's race.

By then, Armstrong had locked it up with a devastating ride into the Alps, and because he wasn't known as a strong mountain racer before, the tone of the coverage in the French newspapers turned on a dime. The newspapers never bothered to learn that Armstrong had spent the spring and winter training in those same Alps, applying the same maniacal effort that stunned his stateside doctors during an arduous recovery. They just assumed the Tour was back to doping as usual.

That episode hit its low point when one of the papers, the respected daily, LeMonde, claimed to have copies of Armstrong's drug tests from the first two days of the race and accused him of doping. Armstrong quickly countered that glucocorticoid, an anti-inflammatory steroid, was contained in a skin cream for saddle sores, that it had no performance-enhancing qualities, and that he'd already provided officials with a prescription for its use. But he couldn't resist the chance to fire back.

"They say stress causes cancer. So if you want to avoid cancer, don't come to the Tour de France and wear the yellow jersey," he added. "It's too much stress."

Armstrong never let his guard down even once after that. There's a saying about the Tour that the strongest always win and Armstrong was always the strongest after that. He flat-out denied every allegation that followed it, demanded to examine the evidence in every instance, challenged the motives and methodology of the testers, and then -- in real courts and the court of public opinion -- steamrolled each one with the same ruthless efficiency that he ruled the road.

I've written this before, but it bears repeating: I have no idea whether Armstrong is clean, despite having been on hand for that 1999 Tour de France win and each of his last three. But he's survived lawsuits, damaging books, and a few questionable associations -- with his reputation largely intact.

It could be because Armstrong is clean. Or because he's lawyered up like few athletes in any sport, or because, as someone in Landis' inner camp suggested gloomily the other day, "He's had way more experience at this than we did."

Whatever it is, this much is beyond doubt: Whether his fuel is outrage or fear, or some mix of both, Armstrong has never once taken his foot off the pedal. On the last day of his reign, he stood on the wide boulevard of the Champs-Elysees and used the occasion to scold his doubters:

"For you people who don't believe in cycling, the cynics and the skeptics, I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry you can't dream big and I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. ... There are no secrets. This is a hard sporting event," he said, "and hard work wins it."

Landis certainly put in enough hard work to become the champion. And as with Armstrong, I don't know whether Landis is clean, only that the drug testers have done a thorough job of nailing his hide to a wall.

Doping control will always be a cat-and-mouse game. The science is murky, open to differing interpretations, political pressures and selective leaks. Had Landis come out with a more forceful denial and tried to turn the tables on his accusers, he'd still be in a deep hole against such mounting evidence. But he might have at least earned the benefit of the doubt.

Instead, his camp has issued alibis in a confusing, piecemeal fashion and done little to advance any presumption of innocence. Landis' stuttering might be the result of honest shock -- perhaps the best face you can put on his deer-in-the-headlights performance so far. His handlers are so inept that someday they'll become a case study in business schools on how not to control damage.

But fair or not, Landis has arrived at this tough juncture and even his staunchest defenders concede that climbing back to the top of his sport is almost an impossibility now.

At the end of the stage race into Le Grand-Bornand two years ago, Armstrong, Landis and the three pursuers hurtled toward the finish, eyeing each other and jockeying for position. With a half-mile to go, Kloden exploded from the pack. Armstrong instinctively knew that Landis was out of gas, kicked himself into a higher gear and coolly nipped the German at the finish.

He dedicated the win that day to Landis and the two hugged at the finish, still perched on their bikes. Landis leaned in and said, "I couldn't go any more."

Let's hope that's not the case now, because the presumption is he already stole something.

 
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Landis had an excess of testosterone, he had nothing to do with Stanozolol.
Stanozolol was mentioned in regard to Ben Johnson, who tested positive for it.
There are dozens of different drugs Landis could have been on that could have changed his ratio including Human Growth Hormone. Most likely it was some designer drug that nobody but the experts know what it was or how it helped him. All the research in this field is now being done by the rich athletes and Balco type labs the medical experts are no longer the experts. The fact that everyone is saying that steroids wouldn't have helped him just means he was using something new rather than it being proof of his innocence.
 
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