deli meats, yum!

Very Veronica

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As if anyone needed another reason not to eat this disgusting toxic crap:

Health officials also said that they are dealing with 26 confirmed cases of listeriosis and are investigating another 29 suspected cases. Of the 26 confirmed cases, there have been 12 deaths --11 victims were from Ontario and the other was from British Columbia.

The B.C. death had been on a list of confirmed cases but federal health officials said it remains "controversial" and is still under investigation.

Of the 11 deaths in Ontario, Listeria has been definitively linked to six of them while five cases are still under investigation to determine the extent the bacteria had on the death.

The disease has an incubation period of up to 70 days, meaning there could be more cases in the coming weeks. Officials recently confirmed a case in Cranbrook, B.C.

Maple Leaf Foods has recalled all of its products that were manufactured at the Ontario plant. But despite such measures, CTV British Columbia reported that a Safeway store in B.C. was still selling at least one of the banned products as recently as Sunday.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080824/listeria_expansion_080825/20080825?hub=CTVNewsAt11

The World Cancer Research Fund (WCRF) has just completed a detailed review of more than 7,000 clinical studies covering links between diet and cancer. Its conclusion is rocking the health world with startling bluntness: Processed meats are too dangerous for human consumption. Consumers should stop buying and eating all processed meat products for the rest of their lives.
http://www.totalhealthbreakthroughs.com/2007/12/processed-meats-declared-too-dangerous-for-human-consumption/

The second (and more important) reason processed meats are so strongly correlated with cancer is, I believe, the continued use of a cancer-promoting additive called sodium nitrite.

This ingredient, which sounds harmless, is actually highly carcinogenic once it enters the human digestive system. There, it forms a variety of nitrosamine compounds that enter the bloodstream and wreak havoc with a number of internal organs: the liver and pancreas in particular. Sodium nitrite is widely regarded as a toxic ingredient, and the USDA actually tried to ban this additive in the 1970's but was vetoed by food manufacturers who complained they had no alternative for preserving packaged meat products.

You can find sodium nitrite in nearly every packaged meat product imaginable. It's listed right on the label of products like bacon, breakfast sausage, beef jerky, pepperoni, sandwich meat, ham, hot dogs, and even the meats found in canned soups. If you and I walked into any grocery store in America, I could show you hundreds of products that contain this ingredient right now. And I believe this sodium nitrite is the primary cause of pancreatic cancer in humans who consume even moderate quantities of processed meats.

If sodium nitrite is so dangerous, why does the food industry use it? Simple: this chemical just happens to turn meats bright red. It's actually a color fixer, and it makes old, dead meats appear fresh and vibrant. Thus, food manufacturers insist on using sodium nitrite for the simple reason that it sells more meat products. Consumers are strongly influenced by the color of grocery products (which is why Florida oranges are often dipped in red dye, by the way), and when meat products look fresh, people will buy them, even if the true color of the months-old meat is putrid gray.
http://www.naturalnews.com/011148.html
 

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As if anyone needed another reason not to eat this disgusting toxic crap:
Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water here. If you go to a deli where they slice the product for you, there should be no problem. If however you buy pre-packaged slice stuff well that's another story.
 

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Jim is right..
So far Its only the pre-packaged meats and some smokies and hotdogs..
all deli sliced meats are still safe:D
 

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And not all deli meat is "mystery meat" crap.

Maple Leaf also produces roast beef, turkey, chicken, pastrami, and other good deli faves.

They're just taking a shit-kicking right now, almost feel sorry for them. Their shares are down a full 25% - and a class action lawsuit to come.

But if they were cutting corners at all, they deserve whatever they have coming their way.
 
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Alot deli meat is processed and too much of anything that is processed isn't good for you. It contains preservatives and has alot of sodium and some sugars in it. Doesn't sound natural to me.
 
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And the Conservatives want to eliminate further government inspections of the food industry and let them regulate themselves.

go figure.
 

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jim

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tis rather startling how many companies are involved here
Not really private labeling is extremely popular in the food industry. Do you really think that the President's Choice cola is bottled in a President's Choice bottling plant? All "House" brands are bottle/manufactured/packaged by a player with excess line capacity.

It's very common for say something like Ocean Spray Cranberry juice to be bottled in the morning and Kirkland Cranberry juice to be bottled in the afternoon. The recipes are a little different (substituting cheaper ingredients, changing up the mix, using more water) but essentially both brands are made and bottled in the same plants.
 

Very Veronica

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Canada's meat industry is sick & it's happened very quickly over the past few decades. With a few big companies processing most of the meat, ignorant meat eating consumers whose only concern is the cheapest price and a government that sanctions & encourages it all, is it any surprise what a mess has been made? Lest we forget mad cow disease.

Anyone who eats meat should get better educated about the whole disturbing process, there's loads of info out there. Ultimately, it is the consumer who decides the market. When you buy cheap, someone pays & in this case it's us, our food supply & the animals. And considering most people are overweight and eat too much protein..well, it just makes no sense.

'The Lie of the Land' is a recent documentary on the british meat industry that explains things very well: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/tv/2007/05/last_nights_tv_the_lie_of_the.html

Hopefully this recent tainted meat scandal will wake a few consumers & government regulators up. :(
 

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timmy ho's also used maple leaf and i just had a sandwich there a few weeks ago.

i love deli meats. not sure what it is but at buffets i always have to have a few slices of salami or whatever. i have no idea why but i think i'll stop now.
 

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You can eat all the processed meats you want!

This stuff is toxic, but if you give yourself a colonic every month or so and a liver cleanse....your system should be okay.
 

Cosmo

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Ohhh... I see it now: fantasy session with VeeVee involving fetishes with rare roast beef!

Why do I suspect there are some scenes money just won't buy with this whore?

(and I mean it in the nicest possible way, VeeVee) :D
 
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I have a friend who is very fanatical and wont even drink bottle water cause she claims the plastic makes things toxic. Something to do with hormones etc when drinking from plastic bottles. So easy to get paranoid over everything. I think in north america we're lucky since most of us have some food to eat.

As if anyone needed another reason not to eat this disgusting toxic crap:
 

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If you are craving protein and need to lose some weight, I have the solution..

Chana Dal.. Go to superstore and get a bag or two of it.

Soak it overnight, toss in a little bit.. teaspoon or less of baking soda, and boil it for 15-20 mins with some cumin.. delicious and very easy on the blood sugar level.
 

Sir Jim

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If you don't shoot it or hook it yourself, you have no idea what it is or where it came from. Especially mechanically deboned or ground items.
 

DQ Guy

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:eek: New to this post now is it seems that Cheese is on the outs too..
2 Resturants in Quebec have closed for the same out break:eek:
 

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the worst thing is that our Food Inspection program is a disaster in this Country.

They found listeria in the plant, but Maple Leaf foods didn't test the products.
Why?

they aren't legally reguired to do so, according to the regulations.

And now the Conservatives want to all but eliminate the government's role in the food inspection, and allow companies to regulate themselves. Conservatives already made changes this spring, and the govt food inspectors have said that they don't have the manpower to inspect things anymore, they are stretched too thin, they are just doing paperwork.

And Tony Clement, Conservative Health Minister, had the gall to say our system works. He should just eat the meat himself. BTW, he is in Denver watching the DNC while we have this food crisis.

Harper and Co don't think the government has a role to play in the direct inspections of our food industry. This should be reason enough to throw the Conservatives out.
 
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