Craigslist attempting to crack down on e-hookers

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I, for one, look forward to having it as a $ site. This will crack down on the spammers and professional flaggers!(with the lawsuits against the clist workarounds). :)


http://ca.tech.yahoo.com/experts/chrisnull/article/1009

Craigslist is one of the most dazzlingly useful websites on the Internet, but as with most things, it has a seedy dark side. Specifically, it's a mecca for "sex workers," who flood its "erotic services" listings with come-ons promising -- in loosely veiled terms -- sex for money.

In an attempt to upgrade its growing reputation as a wretched hive of scum and villainy, Craigslist is taking additional steps to crack down on these listings. In March it began requiring a phone number -- followed by an automated verification call -- before listings would be placed. Yesterday the company said it would take the additional step of charging up to $10 per ad placed, requiring that a credit card be used for payment. The money collected will be donated to charity, including those that fight human trafficking.

Observers, including Connecticut attorney general Richard Blumenthal, think the mere act of requiring personally-identifying information like a credit card number will on its own be enough to send sex workers packing... or at least to friendlier websites. In the linked New York Times story above, he's quoted as shrewdly noting, "There are very few prostitutes who want to be called by Craigslist and asked to give additional identifying information."

But others are critical of Craigslist, going so far as to accuse Craigslist of now acting as a sort of pimp in this arrangement, and that by inserting itself into what was once a largely anonymous system, Craigslist is putting its users at direct risk of legal prosecution, deportation, etc. And of course, this doesn't really stop prostitution, it just moves it somewhere else -- conceivably even back to the streets.

Is Craigslist's move -- a concession to immense pressure from 40 states who've been pushing to get these ads removed -- a good one? The Internet will always have its Red Light Districts, but how far into the back alleys of the web should they be located?

LINK: Craigslist Agrees to Curb Prostitution Ads


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/t...artner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
Craigslist Agrees to Curb Sex Ads

By BRAD STONE
Published: November 6, 2008
SAN FRANCISCO — The online classifieds company Craigslist said Thursday that it had reached an agreement with 40 state attorneys general and agreed to tame its notoriously unruly “erotic services” listings.

Prostitutes and sex-oriented businesses have long used that section of Craigslist to advertise their services.

Early this year, the attorney general of Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal, representing 40 states, sent a letter to Craigslist demanding that it purge the site of such material and better enforce its own rules against illegal activity, including prostitution. The two sides began a series of conversations about what Craigslist could do to prevent such ads.

“They identified ads that were crossing the line,” said Jim Buckmaster, chief executive of Craigslist. “We looked at those ads, we saw their point, and we resolved to see what we could do to get that stuff off the site.”

In March, Craigslist began asking its erotic services advertisers to provide a phone number, which an automated system calls. The system reads a series of digits, which the advertiser types into a Web page as verification before the ad will appear on the site. Craigslist said that ended most of the illicit material.

Under the broader agreement announced Thursday, Craigslist is going further, asking that advertisers provide valid identification. It said that it will charge erotic services vendors a small fee for each ad — $5 to $10, Mr. Buckmaster said — and require that they use a credit card for the payment. This, theoretically, will let the company confirm users’ identities. It will donate the money to charities, including those that combat child exploitation and human trafficking.

On Wednesday, Craigslist also sued a variety of companies offering services designed to circumvent its protections.

Mr. Blumenthal said the new measures would discourage many sex operators from using Craigslist. “The mere act of authentication will be a very significant deterrent,” he said. “There are very few prostitutes who want to be called by Craigslist and asked to give additional identifying information.”
 

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the personal call and credit card number would be great to remove the frauds and fake ads on there. The whole advertising for "sex" deal isn't that bad as long as its honest.
 

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I use craigslist on occasion, with the new cc I may very well not use it. The only time I give my cc over the Internet is when they have a secured authentication server. Which brings me to my question - what is the secured authentication server extension - usually I just click the button that says 'secured cc'. Never really paying mind to the extension, which puts my cc at risk. ~bad me~ This was on the news a few days ago, saying the only real secure cc usage on the Internet was that of -insert extension here-. They where talking about Christmas thief on the news report.

Anyone know ??
 

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nothing is secure, unless its a crazy government site . The trick is not to have huge credit lines on your one credit card, like over 10000 and to have a good company that covers identity theft with good policies.And if your not paying your balance off every month, there is a problem speically in this depression where falling into.
 

dunnochit

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Secure Sites

It is not so much an extension as the URL example:

http://www.buymystuff.com = not secure
https://www.buymystuff.com = secure

SSL Certificates are what make the sites secure and only use your CC at recognized websites and not Bob's Bargain Basement Best Electronics. Do not store, or cache, your CC information on their Websites, re-enter it everytime you need to make a purchase. Clear your Browser history and cache after every completed transaction.
Use a secure browser IE7 or the latest Firefox— Your browser should comply with industry security standards such as Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) or Secure Electronic Transaction (SET). These standards encrypt (scramble) the
purchase information you send over the Internet, ensuring the security of your transaction. A safe site will show a symbol of an unbroken key, a picture of a closed lock, or a Web address that begins with “https.” (Look for the letter “s.”) In addition to locks and keys most browsers also display a warning message before you send information to a site. This dialog box should inform you whether you’re sending to a secure or unsecure site. You may cancel at this point if you wish.

Another way to verify a secure site is with a “certificate.” Currently, VeriSign, Inc. is a provider of Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) and digital certificate solutions used by enterprises, Web sites, and consumers to conduct secure communications and transactions over the Internet and private networks. The company has formed strategic partnerships with many companies. More information about the company can be found at http://www.verisign.com. If you have questions about the security of any site, do not send your information.
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This issue was brought up here on Nov 6 by me, and a few days later by another member. So this is hardly a new revelation.

Now, how has it worked out? In the past using the SF button to narrow the search, there used to be about 400-500 ads per hour for most days in the erotic services section.

Now there is usually less than 200 per day. however, whereas the Therapeutic section used to have a couple hunderd ads per day, now it is up in the thousands. Funny thing about this is that this section used to contain mostly m4m ads, now these poor guys have to compete with AMP's, the AAMP's (micros), the asian Tamp places (r & t) and the few legitimate massage therapists.

Ironically, California is not one of the 40 states involved, but since Craigslist is based in SF, they decided to go ahead and charge the $5 fee here also.

Just goes to show that people will always try to find a way around paying a fee. But, for those who are willing to shell out the $5, there is so little competition there.
 

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There are Gift Cards that work like a credit card. You prepay for a certain amount. It is a throwaway card that puts nothing but your pre-pay at risk.
 
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It is not so much an extension as the URL example:

http://www.buymystuff.com = not secure
https://www.buymystuff.com = secure

SSL Certificates are what make the sites secure and only use your CC at recognized websites and not Bob's Bargain Basement Best Electronics. Do not store, or cache, your CC information on their Websites, re-enter it everytime you need to make a purchase. Clear your Browser history and cache after every completed transaction.
Use a secure browser IE7 or the latest Firefox— Your browser should comply with industry security standards such as Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) or Secure Electronic Transaction (SET). These standards encrypt (scramble) the
purchase information you send over the Internet, ensuring the security of your transaction. A safe site will show a symbol of an unbroken key, a picture of a closed lock, or a Web address that begins with “https.” (Look for the letter “s.”) In addition to locks and keys most browsers also display a warning message before you send information to a site. This dialog box should inform you whether you’re sending to a secure or unsecure site. You may cancel at this point if you wish.

Another way to verify a secure site is with a “certificate.” Currently, VeriSign, Inc. is a provider of Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) and digital certificate solutions used by enterprises, Web sites, and consumers to conduct secure communications and transactions over the Internet and private networks. The company has formed strategic partnerships with many companies. More information about the company can be found at http://www.verisign.com. If you have questions about the security of any site, do not send your information.
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This is correct with one addition. https alone does not say the connection is encrypted. Check the version off the certificate. I believe version 2+ means it is encrypted.
 

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There are Gift Cards that work like a credit card. You prepay for a certain amount. It is a throwaway card that puts nothing but your pre-pay at risk.
That's a smart idea - they have those prepaid Mastercards at Moneymart.
I agree that disposable credit cards are useful when your not sure about the site even if they have SSL or use Paypal if possibly cause your info is not given to the seller.

Use the Vancity Credit Union 'My treat Visa' cause it cost $2 load upto $500. I checked moneymart mastercard; didn't like the addtional costs compared to Vancity. Safeway also sells Giftcard Visa too.


This is correct with one addition. https alone does not say the connection is encrypted. Check the version off the certificate. I believe version 2+ means it is encrypted.
I beleive shuffle is trying to say versions 2 or higher are encerypted.

please explain :eek:
With Internet Explorer, look for the little yellow padlock on the bottom right-hand side and double click it to show the info about certificate. OR use FILE, scoll down to properties and click the certificate button which gives you the same info. In the certificate window, click on the Details tab which shows you what version it is using. Veri-sign uses 3 different classes or versions of certificates; only version 2 and 3 can use encryption.

With FireFox, it close to the same place as Internet Explorer except, the padlock is grey.

Hope that helps.
 
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