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SFMIKE

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You're number 2. Hard to beat LA in almost any category:

Thanks to the modern technology that allows cars to drive using signals bouncing off satellites, we now know more than ever before just how much time we waste in traffic. A new study by the TomTom navigation service says the average driver in America's largest cities spends 20 percent more time traveling during the rush hour than off-peak -- and that aside from the neverending snarl of Los Angeles, several cities on both coasts are seeing their driving time, and heart rates, on the rise.

By measuring the travel times of thousands of drives covering millions of miles in 26 U.S. and Canadian cities, TomTom says it was able to gauge not just how much time drivers in any given city spend in rush hour, but how that flow changes between different times and different days. The results show that the differences among the worst cities aren't as great as you might think; Los Angeles drivers lose an average of 40 minutes for every hour they spend on the road at peak travel, but in Seattle it's a still-stressful 35 minutes.
The TomTom North American Congestion Index
2012 Ranking 2011 Ranking % delay from congestion
1. Los Angeles 1 33%
2. Vancouver 2 30%
3. Miami 5 26%
4. Seattle 12 25%
5. Tampa 6 25%
6. San Francisco 9 25%
7. Washington, D.C. 4 24%
8. Houston 18 23%
9. Toronto 3 22%
10. Ottawa, Canada 15 22%
11. Atlanta 11 21%
12. Montreal 7 20%
13. San Diego 17 19%
14. Chicago 19 19%
15. New York 10 17%
16. Calgary, Canada 13 17%
17. Philadelphia 16 17%
18. Dallas-Fort Worth 20 16%
19. Boston 14 16%
20. Baltimore 25 15%

TomTom's numbers do put some manageable figures to the purgatory of Los Angeles traffic. The average City of Angels resident with a 30-minute commute loses 92 hours a year -- nearly four days -- to traffic congestion. No city in North America suffers a worse backup in evening commutes, or sees its side roads slow down more under the burden.

Other cities are not that far behind. TomTom's study also covered Canada, and found that despite smaller populations, its cities were just as traffic-choked, with Vancouver worse than any U.S. city outside Los Angeles. The next four cities on the ranking -- Miami, Seattle, Tampa and San Francisco -- all suffer similar amounts of delay at rush hour. Only Tampa was not also among the cities with the worst increase in congestion, with Seattle gaining four percentage points of delay time from 2011 to 2012.

The least-congested city in TomTom's list? Minneapolis, where an hour in a peak commute will add an average of 16 minutes in delays, and where traffic moves at a relatively speedy average of 40 mph. Even with that relative brisk pace, Twin Cities commuters still spend a total of two days a year stuck in traffic. No wonder automakers think people might check Facebook and Twitter from behind the wheel. With that much time to waste, what else can they do?
could teach Chicago a thing or two about gang related crime.
 

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You've probably noticed how the urbanists and "Vancouverists" have reacted to this report by basically saying, "It's all good! Vancouver doesn't have freeways entering the city, and that increases livability!" What they mean is, it leaves more land for pricey condo developments.
 

bcneil

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Yeah traffic here sucks ass. But the way they report their data is interesting.
Its just comparing rush hour vs non-peak for each city.

New York has way worse traffic I hate driving around Manhattan. But rush hour is all day, so not a large differential.

Also if Vancouver raised the speed limit to say 150 on the freeways. We would then become 1st place.
As rush hour would remain constant, but non-peak would speed up, creating a larger differential.
 

deathreborn

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the lower mainland has one of the worst infrastructures around. there are only two true highways being 99 and 1. the region refuses to build roads with more then two lanes each way. speed limits are kept artificially low so cops can get there quota of tickets. only one road in the entire region has a 100km/hr speed limit, everything else is lower. the region is very dependent on river crossings. it seems every other day there is an accident or stall on one of the bridges or in the tunnel which totally screws up traffic. part of the problem are all the merge points so close to the crossings. high incident of rear enders. take the tunnel for example. they put counterflow in at 3:00pm so there is only one lane northbound, but then you have 3 lanes merging in from hwy 17 and river road. what a mess. i have little faith that all this construction on hwy 1 is going to improve congestion on it especially since all they care about is building bus and carpool lanes. only change will be is we get the privilage of paying $3 each way come december to sit in the traffic. here's a question for someone who might know. hwy 91 north, there is an interchange at hwy 10 and at 64th ave. why in the hell did they stick a light at 72nd ave.? talk about creating a chokepoint.
 
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I never drove until the 1990's. How was driving in Vancouver like back in the 70's and 80's? I imagine there was tons of parking and hardly any traffic.
 

lenny

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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...y-life-satisfaction-poll-finds-171327105.html


"Pollster Angus Reid says Calgarians and Vancouverites reported the highest satisfaction in their quality of life in a survey done earlier this month.

...While real estate prices in Vancouver have softened recently, fully one-third of poll respondents in the city rated the lack of affordable housing as the most important problem, followed by homelessness and poverty (14 per cent) and traffic and transit (11 per cent).

For Calgarians, healthcare and hospitals edged traffic/transit as the top concern, 23 per cent and 21 per cent respectively.

Some 32 per cent of Torontonians put traffic/transit at the top of the list, at 32 per cent, followed by crime, violence and gang problems and unemployment at 13 per cent each.

In Montreal, a quarter of residents polled named healthcare and hospitals their prime concern, with traffic and transit at 15 per cent."
 

deathreborn

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calgary only has 3 hospitals so i can see why they are concerned. some of those neighborhoods in the southeast are pretty far from a medical facility.
 

Tugela

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Or you could go and live in some one-horse town.

No congestion does not necessarily mean better, it just means that fewer people want to live there.
 
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