Chlamydia Testing?
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HN,
I am curious to know what method of testing the Provincial Labs are using for testing for Chlamydia? Do you use (PCR) or ELISA?
Hi mdwanabe
Currently we are using the nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT) for are chlamydia screening tests.
HN
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Chlamydia testing?
Thank you for answering my question. When I was receiving treatment for my Ureaplasma infection I met a young man from North America who came to the hospital suffering from a Chlamydia infection. He also had several pathogens he was diagnosed with, Chlamydia, Staph aureus, Corynebacterium bacteria, and Coxsakie Virus which apparently is not an STI but contracted though uncooked meats which many of the westerners seems to test positive for and can apparently cause digestion and heart problems if left untreated.
He had seen countless Doctors and only one out of many was able to isolate the Chlamydia infection. He complained of a constant desire to urinate, back pain, chills, fatigue, pain and discomfort, burning urination, poor erections, unable to sit for any prolonged period of time without discomfort.
He travelled through out North America and even Mexico searching to be cured? He expressed his frustration with me and said, “They just kept on giving me oral antibiotics which did not cure his Chlamydia or his other infections.
The doctor treating him explained that the (PCR) or the (NAAT) tests were only able to isolate the infection when he was symptomatic. The Doctor there uses an ELISA test for Chlamydia which he (claims) is far more accurate when the infection lays dormant and in some cases asymptomatic.
My concern is after seeing so many patients there receiving treatment for Chlamydia in (most cases), the treatment with oral antibiotics just kills the initial infection and afterwards the pathogen(s) lay dormant within the walls of the prostate or the female cervix.
Hence, this possibly might explain why there is such a high rate of infections within British Columbia on an annual basis, and why so many women are having miscarriages?
Therefore, if you are suffering from those symptoms and you don’t feel you’re receiving proper treatment? The STD clinic has just put up a questionnaire encouraging people to evaluate their services, here’s your golden opportunity!
The problem I am having with this is; they all (Patients) have required an unconventional approach/understanding, to curing these infections which one would (likely) never receive in Western Countries, but surprisingly with mainly Western medicine. Furthermore, they are just receiving treatment for the symptoms and not the cause of the actual disease?????
Honestly the last time I visited the STD Clinic on west 12th the nurse said to me, “Oh you’re a regular here”, lol.
SHAME SHAME !!!
HN,HN,
I am curious to know what method of testing the Provincial Labs are using for testing for Chlamydia? Do you use (PCR) or ELISA?
Thank you for answering my question. When I was receiving treatment for my Ureaplasma infection I met a young man from North America who came to the hospital suffering from a Chlamydia infection. He also had several pathogens he was diagnosed with, Chlamydia, Staph aureus, Corynebacterium bacteria, and Coxsakie Virus which apparently is not an STI but contracted though uncooked meats which many of the westerners seems to test positive for and can apparently cause digestion and heart problems if left untreated.
He had seen countless Doctors and only one out of many was able to isolate the Chlamydia infection. He complained of a constant desire to urinate, back pain, chills, fatigue, pain and discomfort, burning urination, poor erections, unable to sit for any prolonged period of time without discomfort.
He travelled through out North America and even Mexico searching to be cured? He expressed his frustration with me and said, “They just kept on giving me oral antibiotics which did not cure his Chlamydia or his other infections.
The doctor treating him explained that the (PCR) or the (NAAT) tests were only able to isolate the infection when he was symptomatic. The Doctor there uses an ELISA test for Chlamydia which he (claims) is far more accurate when the infection lays dormant and in some cases asymptomatic.
My concern is after seeing so many patients there receiving treatment for Chlamydia in (most cases), the treatment with oral antibiotics just kills the initial infection and afterwards the pathogen(s) lay dormant within the walls of the prostate or the female cervix.
Hence, this possibly might explain why there is such a high rate of infections within British Columbia on an annual basis, and why so many women are having miscarriages?
Therefore, if you are suffering from those symptoms and you don’t feel you’re receiving proper treatment? The STD clinic has just put up a questionnaire encouraging people to evaluate their services, here’s your golden opportunity!
The problem I am having with this is; they all (Patients) have required an unconventional approach/understanding, to curing these infections which one would (likely) never receive in Western Countries, but surprisingly with mainly Western medicine. Furthermore, they are just receiving treatment for the symptoms and not the cause of the actual disease?????
Honestly the last time I visited the STD Clinic on west 12th the nurse said to me, “Oh you’re a regular here”, lol.
SHAME SHAME !!!
HN,
Thank you for answering my question. When I was receiving treatment for my Ureaplasma infection I met a young man from North America who came to the hospital suffering from a Chlamydia infection. He also had several pathogens he was diagnosed with, Chlamydia, Staph aureus, Corynebacterium bacteria, and Coxsakie Virus which apparently is not an STI but contracted though uncooked meats which many of the westerners seems to test positive for and can apparently cause digestion and heart problems if left untreated.
He had seen countless Doctors and only one out of many was able to isolate the Chlamydia infection. He complained of a constant desire to urinate, back pain, chills, fatigue, pain and discomfort, burning urination, poor erections, unable to sit for any prolonged period of time without discomfort.
He travelled through out North America and even Mexico searching to be cured? He expressed his frustration with me and said, “They just kept on giving me oral antibiotics which did not cure his Chlamydia or his other infections.
The doctor treating him explained that the (PCR) or the (NAAT) tests were only able to isolate the infection when he was symptomatic. The Doctor there uses an ELISA test for Chlamydia which he (claims) is far more accurate when the infection lays dormant and in some cases asymptomatic.
My concern is after seeing so many patients there receiving treatment for Chlamydia in (most cases), the treatment with oral antibiotics just kills the initial infection and afterwards the pathogen(s) lay dormant within the walls of the prostate or the female cervix.
Hence, this possibly might explain why there is such a high rate of infections within British Columbia on an annual basis, and why so many women are having miscarriages?
Therefore, if you are suffering from those symptoms and you don’t feel you’re receiving proper treatment? The STD clinic has just put up a questionnaire encouraging people to evaluate their services, here’s your golden opportunity!
The problem I am having with this is; they all (Patients) have required an unconventional approach/understanding, to curing these infections which one would (likely) never receive in Western Countries, but surprisingly with mainly Western medicine. Furthermore, they are just receiving treatment for the symptoms and not the cause of the actual disease?????
Honestly the last time I visited the STD Clinic on west 12th the nurse said to me, “Oh you’re a regular here”, lol.
SHAME SHAME !!!
Hi mdwanabe
It doesn't seem like you have a question so I will just comment on some of the information you have discussed.
From what you have written there seems to be two main issues that you have discussed.
The first issue I see is what is the best test for detecting chlamydia in the general population. Currently the NAAT test is seen as the “gold standard” in chlamydia screening. Either with a swab or urine test.
Most people who have chlamydia do not experience symptoms. This is one of the main reasons why we use the NAAT test as it is so sensitive (accurate).
In 2009 we had 11,173 cases of chlamydia in BC. Most people would of had mild or no symptoms when they tested positive to the chlamydia NAAT test. 4-6 weeks after taking the antibiotics their NAAT test would of shown negative.
The majority of people who get chlamydia and have it treated have no further problems.
This brings us to the second issue.
A small number of people who get chlamydia can develop complications with it. For example woman can develop pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) which can cause bad pelvic pain and make it harder to get pregnant.
Men can get infections of the prostate. From what you have written above this is what could have happened to the man you described.
Once you have PID or an infection of the prostate it is a completely different matter. Even if chlamydia caused this different antibiotics or amounts would need to be used.
Men with prostate infections need to see their family doctor or a specialist (urologist). It is out of the scope of the STI clinic to mange this. There are many different things that can cause prostate infections, STI are just one of them. There may be a place in this situation to use the chlamydia ELISA test as it will show up past infections, but for a general screening test the NAAT is far superior to the ELISA test.
In summary
- If you have symptoms that you think might be chlamydia or just want to go for a checkup the NAAT test is best.
- If your STI symptoms have not become better with antibiotics or is getting worse you need to see a doctor ASAP.
Here is a link for more information on chlamydia.
http://www.sexualityandu.ca/en/stis-stds/what_are_stis-stds/bacterial-stis-stds
HN
www.healthnurse.wordpress.com
www.bccdc.ca
www.stiresource.com
HN,
With the amount of Western patients going to the Far East for treatment, and having the opportunity to hear their stories, once again I am not so certain that I completely share your level of optimism?
For many, you are their first line of defence and if you were offering them proper health care there would be many less people suffering from Prostatitis and Pelvic Inflammatory Disease. There is a very limited window of opportunity to eradicate these pathogens before they cause extreme damage. Not too mention in my situation I was unknowingly infectious for twenty years.
Let’s be honest here, see an urologist ASAP? It’s taken me months to see an urologist after a referral from my GP, and many of them don’t even have the slightest understanding of how to isolate or treat these nasty pathogens and in many cases their findings are dismissed as non specific findings. Hence the communication gaps between the labs, the Doctors and their lack of knowledge of what they are actually finding?
I met a Doctor from Belgium being treated for Chlamydia at the hospital where I was treated. He admitted to me that the treatment being offered by our Doctor was far beyond anything he had ever learned in his urology studies at university in Europe.
It is your responsibility as a health care provider to help and offer these patients the highest level of care to educate/protect others from these nasty pathogens; honestly you’ve failed in my opinion!
With the amount of Western patients going to the Far East for treatment, and having the opportunity to hear their stories, once again I am not so certain that I completely share your level of optimism?
For many, you are their first line of defence and if you were offering them proper health care there would be many less people suffering from Prostatitis and Pelvic Inflammatory Disease. There is a very limited window of opportunity to eradicate these pathogens before they cause extreme damage. Not too mention in my situation I was unknowingly infectious for twenty years.
Let’s be honest here, see an urologist ASAP? It’s taken me months to see an urologist after a referral from my GP, and many of them don’t even have the slightest understanding of how to isolate or treat these nasty pathogens and in many cases their findings are dismissed as non specific findings. Hence the communication gaps between the labs, the Doctors and their lack of knowledge of what they are actually finding?
I met a Doctor from Belgium being treated for Chlamydia at the hospital where I was treated. He admitted to me that the treatment being offered by our Doctor was far beyond anything he had ever learned in his urology studies at university in Europe.
It is your responsibility as a health care provider to help and offer these patients the highest level of care to educate/protect others from these nasty pathogens; honestly you’ve failed in my opinion!
Just curious, mdwanabe - in what country were you treated? You were asked this in another thread and just said "The Far East". Why are you reluctant to say where and what hospital?
Also, how was the testing and treatment different from that received here once a correct diagnosis as made? Different antibiotics? Something not available here? Different combinations? Different lengths of time?
How long did it take to be cured?
What follow-up was there?
How have others you met there heard about this hospital?
You seem to be critical of the methods used here, but are reluctant to share the secrets that could benefit paeople here.
Also, how was the testing and treatment different from that received here once a correct diagnosis as made? Different antibiotics? Something not available here? Different combinations? Different lengths of time?
How long did it take to be cured?
What follow-up was there?
How have others you met there heard about this hospital?
You seem to be critical of the methods used here, but are reluctant to share the secrets that could benefit paeople here.
W
westcoast555
I know we're not supposed to comment on these threads but in this case I'll make an exception.HN,
With the amount of Western patients going to the Far East for treatment, and having the opportunity to hear their stories, once again I am not so certain that I completely share your level of optimism?
For many, you are their first line of defence and if you were offering them proper health care there would be many less people suffering from Prostatitis and Pelvic Inflammatory Disease. There is a very limited window of opportunity to eradicate these pathogens before they cause extreme damage. Not too mention in my situation I was unknowingly infectious for twenty years.
Let’s be honest here, see an urologist ASAP? It’s taken me months to see an urologist after a referral from my GP, and many of them don’t even have the slightest understanding of how to isolate or treat these nasty pathogens and in many cases their findings are dismissed as non specific findings. Hence the communication gaps between the labs, the Doctors and their lack of knowledge of what they are actually finding?
I met a Doctor from Belgium being treated for Chlamydia at the hospital where I was treated. He admitted to me that the treatment being offered by our Doctor was far beyond anything he had ever learned in his urology studies at university in Europe.
It is your responsibility as a health care provider to help and offer these patients the highest level of care to educate/protect others from these nasty pathogens; honestly you’ve failed in my opinion!
mdwanabe - Considering the issues you're raising, the criticism and professed knowledge.... why don't you post some links to clinical studies, medical literature etc.? You're levelling some strong charges and criticism but backing it up with nothing but vague references and anecdotal stories.
A little substance, validated by an authoritative medical source would be a good idea. Otherwise I'm afraid the readers on here as well as the HN will likely dismiss your posts as having no validity.
You might also try not using such an accusatory tone... the HN is a very good resource and I don't think you're coming across as helpful.
20 years of suffering - referring to this post
Your post "20 years of suffering" resonated with an issue I am having since last September. I am curious as to the treatment you received in a foriegn country you write where all
the micro organisms you describe were detected and removed. Could you kindly pass that information to me please? Thank you very much and congratulations on your relief. Please email
me at e1d2d3y4@yahoo.com if you don't mind.
hello,HN,
I am curious to know what method of testing the Provincial Labs are using for testing for Chlamydia? Do you use (PCR) or ELISA?
Your post "20 years of suffering" resonated with an issue I am having since last September. I am curious as to the treatment you received in a foriegn country you write where all
the micro organisms you describe were detected and removed. Could you kindly pass that information to me please? Thank you very much and congratulations on your relief. Please email
me at e1d2d3y4@yahoo.com if you don't mind.
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