Chabuduo! Close enough …

licks2nite

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Close enough ... (life in a command economy)

James Palmer:
is a British writer and editor. He is the author of The Death of Mao: The Tangshan Earthquake and the Birth of the New China (2012) and The Bloody White Baron: The Extraordinary Story of the Russian Nobleman Who Became the Last Khan of Mongolia (2008). He lives in Beijing.

In our apartment in central Beijing, we fight a daily rearguard action against entropy. The mirror on my wardrobe came off its hinges six months ago and is now propped up against the wall, one of many furnishing casualties. Each of our light fittings takes a different bulb, and a quarter of them are permanently broken. In the bedroom, the ceiling-high air-conditioning unit runs its moisture through a hole knocked in the wall, stuffed with an old cloth to avoid leakage, while the balcony door, its sealant rotted, has a towel handy to block the rain when it pours through. On the steps outside our door, I duck my head every day to avoid the thick tangle of hanging wires that brings power and the internet; when the wind is up, connections slow as cables swing.

The apartment is five years old. By Chinese standards, it’s far better than the average. Our toilet works, while in many of my friends’ houses, flushing the loo is a hydraulic operation akin to controlling the Nile floods. The sockets do not flash blue sparks when plugged in, and all but two work. None of the lightbulbs have ever exploded; and the mirror merely broke away, rather than falling spontaneously from the frame. The shower is not placed next to the apartment’s central wiring and protected by nothing more than rotting drywall.

My time in China has taught me the pleasure and value of craftsmanship, simply because it’s so rare. To see somebody doing a job well, not just for its own reward, but for the satisfaction of good work, thrills my heart; it doesn’t matter whether it’s cooking or candle-making or fixing a bike.

Many Chinese cities are half building site; I’ve gone on walks through back alleys that resembled Super Mario levels, full of grinding wheels shooting out flurries of super-heated sparks, bricks dropped from scaffolding above without warning and cords strung across the pavement. ‘Why don’t you put tape around that?’ I asked at one spot, pointing to a guttering pit next to the road, deep enough to break a neck. The migrant workers shrugged. ‘Nobody told us to.’

Why is China caught in this trap? In most industries here, vital feedback loops are severed. To understand how to make things, you have to use them. Ford’s workers in the US drove their own cars, and Western builders dwelt, or hoped to dwell, in homes like the ones they made. But the migrants lining factory belts in Guangdong make knick-knacks for US households thousands of miles away. The men and women who build China’s houses will never live in them.

The opacity of Chinese companies means it’s often hard to pin down the blame for even cataclysmic failure; the maker’s marks once inscribed on every brick in a city’s walls have been replaced with the mirages of holding companies and shell enterprises. Local governments fearful of higher unemployment and lower GDP work assiduously to shield their favoured businesses from any consequences for their actions.

Chinese factories and workshops weren’t developing new trades, but taking over ones the West needed done cheap. There was none of the pride or knowledge earned by problem-solving or invention.

Everyday regulation is even less efficient, bound by a set of perverse incentives that have persisted for decades. Regulators, under-funded and under-staffed, aren’t expected to cover every possible enterprise. Yet if they inspect a site or company, they’re deemed to be responsible for any future disasters there, which can cost them their jobs, Party membership or even potential jail time. The obvious solution is for regulators to cover few sites and concentrate on the least risky areas, thus minimising their personal risk.

[W]hen you’re surrounded by the cheaply done, the half-assed and the ugly, when failure is unpunished and dedication unrewarded all around, it’s hard not to think that close enough is good enough. Chabuduo.

Full article:
https://aeon.co/essays/what-chinese-corner-cutting-reveals-about-modernity
 

masterblaster

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This reads like anti China propaganda.
China makes junk as well as product of the highest quality. Just like Germany, the UK or USA.
i haven’t actually seen any Chinese high quality products. I guess a Ming vase is pretty high quality but they haven’t been made for quite a few centuries.
 
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westwoody

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China makes lots of extremely high precision tools for manufacturing.
Coordinate Measuring Machines, EDM milling machines, 3d printers are a few.

A lot of US made stuff contains Chinese components. "Country of Origin" is a very complex issue which is constantly being argued in trade negotiations.
A US-labelled machine tool may contain stepper motors and circuit boards made in China.
 

LLLurkJ2

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China makes lots of extremely high precision tools for manufacturing.
Coordinate Measuring Machines, EDM milling machines, 3d printers are a few.

A lot of US made stuff contains Chinese components. "Country of Origin" is a very complex issue which is constantly being argued in trade negotiations.
A US-labelled machine tool may contain stepper motors and circuit boards made in China.
From what I read in these forums, you usually get something older than what is adverstised
 

oldshark

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China makes lots of extremely high precision tools for manufacturing.
Coordinate Measuring Machines, EDM milling machines, 3d printers are a few.

A lot of US made stuff contains Chinese components. "Country of Origin" is a very complex issue which is constantly being argued in trade negotiations.
A US-labelled machine tool may contain stepper motors and circuit boards made in China.
I buy lots of equipment. Rule of thumb in my industry is that you never buy equipment made there unless the company are either part of an international group you can sue or have assets in the D10 countries you can get at. Lots of issues with not only complex equipment but even pipe, bolts, etc. One dumb purchasing agent in Australia bought 'quality' parts from China, saved the country a few thousand. The parts failed and the company was out about $100 million in lost production. It is not anti-Chinese propaganda, it is a constant problem that the media over here won't cover. The key is to buy from a non-Chinese vendor who has a factory there or subs to a factory and CONTROLS the quality control. Otherwise it is a dice roll.
 
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