Cars electronically limited to 150Kms by Government bill C-319

[anonanon]

I think that this is completely STUPID. Even after they pass this, IF it passes, then you can mod the car and go as fast as you want!!!

Please vote in the poll!


http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=3672781&File=24&Language=e&

BILL C-319


An Act to amend the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (speed limiters)

Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:

Sa Majesté, sur l’avis et avec le consentement du Sénat et de la Chambre des communes du Canada, édicte :

1993, ch. 16



1. The Motor Vehicle Safety Act is amended by adding the following after section 5:


Definition of “speed limiter”


5.1 (1) In this section, “speed limiter” means a device mounted on a vehicle that, when engaged, electronically limits the maximum speed at which the vehicle is driven to the speed set on the device.



Restrictions re manufacture, importation, sale and lease


(2) No person shall manufacture, import into Canada or sell or lease to another person a vehicle unless it is equipped with a speed limiter that is engaged and set to a maximum speed that is not greater than 150 kilometres per hour.


Duty of repairer


(3) No person who repairs or maintains a vehicle shall release the vehicle to another person unless the vehicle is equipped with a speed limiter that is engaged and set to a maximum speed that is not greater than 150 kilometres per hour.



Restriction on operation


(4) No person who owns a vehicle or leases a vehicle from another person shall operate the vehicle or allow it to be operated by another person unless it is equipped with a speed limiter that is engaged and set to a maximum speed that is not greater than 150 kilometres per hour.



Application


(5) This section applies to vehicles manufactured on or after January 1, 2010 that are not fire-fighting vehicles, ambulances, police vehicles or other vehicles that are used for the purpose of emergency or vehicles that belong to a class of vehicles that is exempted from the application of this section by regulation.


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[festealth]

Car makers already put limiters in place.
I know I usually speed 10-20km.... but who actually speeds 150km+ anyways?

In anycase, people who wants to go that fast will always find a way around it. Much like gun registry and stuff... they're just targeting the average citizen.

 

[uncleg]

Car makers already put limiters in place.
I know I usually speed 10-20km.... but who actually speeds 150km+ anyways?In anycase, people who wants to go that fast will always find a way around it. Much like gun registry and stuff... they're just targeting the average citizen.

I do........

 

[gpchillin]

Car makers already put limiters in place.
I know I usually speed 10-20km.... but who actually speeds 150km+ anyways?

In anycase, people who wants to go that fast will always find a way around it. Much like gun registry and stuff... they're just targeting the average citizen.

We all speed on the highway most people do 110 on a 100 road and 120 on a 110 road but doing 150+ on a public road is just being retarded. There is no reason at all to do 150. Hell, cops responding to a officer down call wouldn't even do 150km to get there.

People get pulled over for doing 150 on city roads and that should be jail time and loss of license for life cause you might as well go to the mall and start pointing a gun at everyone it's just as stupid.

 

[anonanon]

While it may not be legal, doing 150+ on a empty highway in a properly equipped vehicle with someone who knows how to drive that vehicle at those speeds is not unsafe.

It's the idiots who go rent big fast cars, drive them down the highway at 180kms and crash that make these cars look unsafe. Power is fun if you can control it.

Myself I have a fast vehicle that can already outrun any standard Crown Victoria, the standard police car, by a longshot. Not that I've ever tried though, you can't outrun a radio call ahead!

On city streets however this is not appropriate and should be punished by jail time. Kill the street racing and move it to proper tracks that are equipped to handle it, and that's great, legal, and just as much fun.

 

[myselftheother]

While it may not be legal, doing 150+ on a empty highway in a properly equipped vehicle with someone who knows how to drive that vehicle at those speeds is not unsafe.

It's the idiots who go rent big fast cars, drive them down the highway at 180kms and crash that make these cars look unsafe. Power is fun if you can control it.

Myself I have a fast vehicle that can already outrun any standard Crown Victoria, the standard police car, by a longshot. Not that I've ever tried though, you can't outrun a radio call ahead!

On city streets however this is not appropriate and should be punished by jail time. Kill the street racing and move it to proper tracks that are equipped to handle it, and that's great, legal, and just as much fun.

Now, you might be able to drive 150+, but most people can't, and neither can a 17 year old with a car full of other 17 year old's. On on the track, I agree, sky's the limit, but on the street....forget it. 150 is 95 mph, plenty fast.

 

[oppai]

Agree with the OP, it will be easy to "beat" the system that they use. It will just be another big waste of money like aircare. If they were really going to limit they should set up electronic sensors that make the car match or be slower than posted speed limits. Too much control though. Won't happen.

 

[ReluctantPooner]

I dunno I've been north of 150 on the new Island Highway when there was no traffic around and had no problems. It's nice and straight.
But there are situations in life where you may need to be able to out run people. Say you or a family member are a witness in a crime or extradition case and there is a hit put on you. Might sound like movies to most of you but trust me it happens to good people more than you know. And don't try to tell me the RCMP will protect you I won't elaborate on that one.
And once I had a car chase me after work. In the position I held at the time, it could easily have been people trying to kidnap me to take me back to work and open the safe, it happened to a colleague at a different location. I reached speeds up to 160 in order to shake them and then head to the closest RCMP detachment. But I was honking and flashing my lights to warn other traffic.

 

[anonanon]

Now, you might be able to drive 150+, but most people can't, and neither can a 17 year old with a car full of other 17 year old's. On on the track, I agree, sky's the limit, but on the street....forget it. 150 is 95 mph, plenty fast.

It is fast, I didn't say it wasn't. I said that if your able to handle those speeds, and the situation is ok, then why not?

Agree with the OP, it will be easy to "beat" the system that they use. It will just be another big waste of money like aircare. If they were really going to limit they should set up electronic sensors that make the car match or be slower than posted speed limits. Too much control though. Won't happen.

This bill most likely won't pass, but it is a scary reminder that your rights can be taken away at a minutes notice!

And don't try to tell me the RCMP will protect you I won't elaborate on that one.

People place too much trust in the RCMP sometimes...

 

[gpchillin]

The problem is not the guys doing 120 on the highway, If everyone was driving 120 then there is no problems really.

The problem is that as your speed increases the greater the speed difference is with those who choose to do 90 on the highway and THAT is when you have problems.

At even 120 coming over a hill or around a corner you all of a sudden have some car in front of you doing 30 km/hr slower then you and you must react either by swerving or hitting the brakes. At even just a 30km/hr closure rate it leaves little time to react if your now talking about a 50 or 60 km/hr or more closure rate a human just has no time to react and a cars brakes would have no time to slow the car down once applied.

The new vehicles are very well made and they are capable of safely operating at speeds well above 100km/hr and nobody can argue with that fact. But its the closure rates and reaction times that must be considered.

 

[Im Cuming]

The problem is not the guys doing 120 on the highway, If everyone was driving 120 then there is no problems really.

The problem is that as your speed increases the greater the speed difference is with those who choose to do 90 on the highway and THAT is when you have problems.

At even 120 coming over a hill or around a corner you all of a sudden have some car in front of you doing 30 km/hr slower then you and you must react either by swerving or hitting the brakes. At even just a 30km/hr closure rate it leaves little time to react if your now talking about a 50 or 60 km/hr or more closure rate a human just has no time to react and a cars brakes would have no time to slow the car down once applied.

The new vehicles are very well made and they are capable of safely operating at speeds well above 100km/hr and nobody can argue with that fact. But its the closure rates and reaction times that must be considered.

Sounds like the Driver is the issue NOT the car!

 

[CJ Tylers]

I'd just like to point out that being able to drive, regardless of speed, is not a Right. It is a priviledge... you won't find it enshrined in our constitution anywhere.

We already have speed limits that most people do not obey. Forcing a hard safety limit isn't any different than having a cop taling you at all times. I think a better question is "how come they feel the need to do this?".... ten to one, it's a special interest group pressuring them to curb street racing and speeding deaths.

Street racers and speed phreaks aside, most motor vehicle accidents occur at speeds below 150Km/h... so I'm not entirely sure what exactly this bill will manage to do.