I'm looking for where I can buy actual "gold" or "silver". I deal with the TD and am into various mutuals, etc, but haven't taken the step of actually purchasing the actual physical product (gold or silver). Do I buy this through TD or do I have to go someplace else? What are the service charges for such a transaction?
Any advice of how to do it (I live in Edmonton).
Hi Cruiser, I live in Edmonton too. The most convenient way to buy physical gold and silver in town is to go to one of the local coin shops and buy some silver bullion coins. I have bought one ounce a U.S. silver eagle, Canadian one ounce silver maple leaf, Australian one ounce silver kookaburra, and a five-ounce Mexican silver libertad from there. Last time I dealt with them I paid $25 for a one ounce silver maple leaf coin, so I paid about $5 over the spot price of silver. For small transactions like less than say five ounces of silver, that is actually pretty good. Note that all coin shops require cash payment for bullion sales. Other than that, it's easy. Just walk up and buy it.
For larger quantities, the cheapest way -- but a bit more of a hassle -- is to buy from Scotiabank's precious metal bank, called ScotiaMocatta. It is actually the world's oldest and largest precious metals bank, which was acquired several years ago by Scotiabank.
http://www.scotiamocatta.com/products/investment.htm. TD may have similar procedures, but ScotiaMocatta claims to be the precious metals experts in Canada. Even with Scotiabank, unless you go to the main branch they may not know what you are talking about. I wanted to buy some Silver Maple Leaf coins from Scotia on Whyte Avenue and they literally didn't even know what they were(!).
I tested the process a few months ago, and here's how: go to the downtown main Scotiabank branch in Edmonton during daytime hours before 1:30 PM to purchase or sell precious metals -- the ScotiaMocatta division is located downstairs. You will need to bring two pieces of government-approved picture ID, so a driver's license and passport will work fine, as well as cash to pay for your purchase. Some of these restrictions are waived if you are a Scotiabank customer, as presumably they have already verified your identity and credit worthiness.
Tell them what metals you want buy and in what quantities. If you just want Canadian Maple Leaf coins, they should have what you want on hand. Despite what their web site says about selling US Silver Eagle, and European Silver Philharmonic coins, I just got a blank stare when I asked about them.
They will then give you the coins in exchange for your cash, as well as write up a bill of sale. You should keep this bill of sale as long as you own the bullion because it allows you to sell the metal back to Scotiabank in the future at spot price (less commission charges) with little hassle. If you do not have the bill and try to sell your silver, wherever you sell to may charge an assaying fee (to verify that your silver is actually silver and not silver-painted lead or something). I have no idea how much assaying fees are btw.
The transaction fee is only 1/4% over the current spot price of silver, in addition to a service charge of I believe $10 per transaction. So you need to buy at least a few ounces of silver for ScotiaMocatta to be cheaper than the local coin shop, but it is definitely the way to go for large quantities.
Hope that helps!
P.S. Buying government-minted bullion coins (eg., Canadian Maple Leaf, US Silver Eagle, Mexican Silver Libertad) are the most liquid form of physical silver you can buy. However, some people prefer to pay a lower premium and just get as much of the metal as possible, in which case I would also recommend the online store at First Majestic Silver. First Majestic is a Canadian silver mining company who took the innovative step to sell silver themselves rather than having to deal with the crooks at the Comex (but that is a different topic):
http://www.firstmajestic.com/s/OrderForm.asp