Building a new Computer

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In the next few weeks I am going to get a griend of mine to build me a new computer.
Where should I start? The case with power supply. The motherboard.
The processor.
I am looking to spend around $1200 or so. Maybe a bit less.
I want a fast machine with large hard drive or two. Dvd burner and a Graphics card. I am not looking for really high end. I do want something for games and itunes all that stuff.
I also do photoshop stuff on it.
 

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Randy Whorewald said:
Here is also a detailed step by step guide to help you get involved in the process
Cool link Randy but 23 steps :eek: For someone like me who's for the most part quite the DIY'er I'm intimidated by the thought of building my own PC.
 

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Gravi- the first one is ALWAYS THE TOUGHEST. After that you'll be an expert.
 

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IMO Intel Conroe is the way to go. I could spew out a bunch of parts and model #'s and prices, but I'll let your friend help ya with that since it needs to be done face-to-face.

If ya have any technical Q's, post back.
 

hornyitalian06

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I have a Dell computer and I had them/Dell build a computer to specs. So far I have had no problems.
 

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hornyitalian06 said:
I have a Dell computer and I had them/Dell build a computer to specs. So far I have had no problems.
Seems your computer does have one small problem, It posts to much in one day!!!:eek:
 

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I will sell you my computer for 1200 bucks :D

Intel P4 3.0 ghz socket 478.
P4P800-E Deluxe Mainboard
2048 PC3200 Ram (4 sticks of 512mb)
ATI FireGL X3 256 MB <- Worth 1200 new
Multi Layer DVD-R/+R Writer
CD/DVD Player Combo Drive
80 GB 7200 Samsung Hard drive
120 GB 7200 Samsung Hard drive
Antec Sonata Quite case + 350 Watt PSU
Win XP Pro Installed

OR for 600 bucks I will sell you

Two 80 GB 7200 Samsung Hard drives
Intel P4 3.0 ghz socket 478.
P4P800-E Deluxe Mainboard
ATI FireGL X3 256 MB <- Worth 1200 new

Video card unregistered so you can buy it, register it and have a 3 year warenty from ATI.

Ran the Half-Life 2 Frames per second and clocked at 108 FPS
 
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Seems your computer does have one small problem, It posts to much in one day!!!:eek:
I counted 32 and the day is only half over.
Gravy-just do it-as long as you have the right bunch of parts it's almost impossible to put them together wrong. And there are a lot less parts than I thought.
 

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FuZzYknUckLeS said:
Get a dual core Intel if yer gonna be doing graphic-intensive work on it.
Dual core dosn't make much difference when it comes to graphic work. Dual core is basicly useless unless you do lots of multi tasking like burning a DVD while gaming ... If you're just gaming, your machine would only use one core. If you're buying new and want to go the dual core or dual processor way, go AMD not intel. intel has to many heating issues if you want to overclock and generaly are more expensive when it comes to performance vs $$$ ...

What you COULD do is get a dual processor mainboard, then a dual core proccessor and disable the 2nd processor in the bios, that way when you want to upgrade in a year or 2 and the prices drop by 35% you can get another dual core processor and have dual dual cores!!! lol
 

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klassix said:
I will sell you my computer for 1200 bucks :D

Intel P4 3.0 ghz socket 478.
P4P800-E Deluxe Mainboard
2048 PC3200 Ram (4 sticks of 512mb)
ATI FireGL X3 256 MB
Multi Layer DVD-R/+R Writer
CD/DVD Player Combo Drive
80 GB 7200 Samsung Hard drive
120 GB 7200 Samsung Hard drive
Win XP Pro Installed

Ran the Half-Life 2 Frames per second and clocked at 108 FPS
Nice video card but the rest of the package is kind of slow for todays market.
 

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Klass I would guess you read Maximum pc, sounds like one of their benchmark models ,as for hotitaly, I would guess a rookie trying to crack the lineup
 

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mick_eight said:
Klass I would guess you read Maximum pc, sounds like one of their benchmark models ,as for hotitaly, I would guess a rookie trying to crack the lineup
I don't read any PC mags or anything like that, I had a few bucks in my pocket from my tax return a year or 2 ago and went nuts on a computer, build it all myself, as for the video card, funny story on how I got that for next to nothing compaired to what it's worth lol
 

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Gotta give it to you klass you know your stuff.. Maximum pc is a good mag for builders, better then any of the other lame ones
 

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klassix said:
Dual core dosn't make much difference when it comes to graphic work. Dual core is basicly useless unless you do lots of multi tasking like burning a DVD while gaming ... If you're just gaming, your machine would only use one core. If you're buying new and want to go the dual core or dual processor way, go AMD not intel. intel has to many heating issues if you want to overclock and generaly are more expensive when it comes to performance vs $$$ ...

What you COULD do is get a dual processor mainboard, then a dual core proccessor and disable the 2nd processor in the bios, that way when you want to upgrade in a year or 2 and the prices drop by 35% you can get another dual core processor and have dual dual cores!!! lol

Klassix
You might not be multi tasking but your computer sure as hell is. Meaing, no you might not be ripping a dvd, surfing, and working on a word doc, but while you're watching an embedded video in Firefox or IE, your computer is running a software firewall, AV service, spyware service, uncompressing that video stream, refreshing that web page, running windows update in the background, etc etc. Now add viewing that video on top of running a 3d desktop like Vista or your flavour of Linux. Dual core processors make alot of sense and are here to stay.
 

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Ironhead said:
In the next few weeks I am going to get a griend of mine to build me a new computer.
I guess the $64,000 Q is have ya fukkin well got the bloody thing yet?!?!?
 

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So, answering your questions:

1. - “Where should I start?”
You should start with what you need the computer for.
You mentioned Photoshop, iTunes, and Games.
For media editing like Photoshop, or encoding video/audio files, INTEL processors is the way to go.
For PC Games, traditionally AMD processors work the best.
Now, all this based on the way these processors are built and work. If you want to know more details, ask me later.
As well, out of the items mentioned the order would be the following:

Processor >> Motherboard >> Power supply.

Then you pick the processor or CPU (the CPU will determine which motherboard you can use, since each processor has a different fitting or "socket").
Power supply you can get almost at the end, some computer cases come with them. To pick a Power Supply you need to see how much power is drawn from your computer to run normally, and how quiet it is.
Quietness goes also for HD, CPU fans, Video Cards, Cases, Case fans.

2. - “I am looking to spend around $1200 or so. Maybe a bit less
1200 can buy you a sweet computer, but make sure you get something you can upgrade when the next generation item comes out (typically a few months later, be ready for that).
The most costly things will be: CPU, Video Card (high end ones), RAM (high end ones ONLY for “Pro” gaming), and Motherboard.

3. - “I want a fast machine…
A fast machine comes from this:
High speed CPU w/large “cache” +
Large RAM w/ low “latency” and the least amount of chips +
Large “cache” Hard Drive (large or small capacity HD, not much diff in terms of speed).

The “cache” is the CPU’s bottleneck; the bigger the better.
The “latency” is the RAM’s bottleneck; the smaller the better. Most people don’t need to get into this with RAM unless you consider yourself a serious gamer, in which case you would already know how to put a computer together IMO.
The “cache” in a HD is its bottleneck. Think of it as the size of chunks of information sent back and forth by the HD.

4. - “…with large hard drive or two.
Two hard drives is a good idea. Keep all your valuable files in the non-C drive. You don’t need to have two different HD, since you can “split” or “partition” one into 2, 3, 4… whatever you want.

5. - “Dvd burner…
DVD burners are coming with Blue-ray and HD-DVD, but that battle is not settled yet, so get a cheap one for now, although most are. A new hybrid BD-DVD and HD-DVD disc was invented (putting those two new technologies together), thank God! Give it a couple of years and the technology will be affordable by us and out on the market.

6. - “… and a Graphics card.”
Some motherboards come with “integrated video” so you wouldn’t need a video card, but they’re not the greatest, and you will probably need one for most of your Games.

7. - “I am not looking for really high end.
Please do look for something mid-high end, for a good price; that’s the way I go and it never failed me. Keep this in mind: if it is on sale ask yourself “why, is the next new thing out?”
Use Pricenetwork.ca for finding the best price on computers, parts, etc. (Great site to know, btw).

Good luck! and any more questions?
 
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