Book Store closes!!!!

Ironhead

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My favorite bookstore closed. Granville Mall books closed! There is a notice on the door.
After 20 years they are gone. Chapters killed another store.
 

Yman

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I think their closure also had a lot to do with increased rent with the rising popularity of the street with all the new restaurants and all.

One of the news programs did a story on them a couple months back.
 

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Ironhead said:
Chapters killed another store.

I hate the superstores concept in all its various incarnations. Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Starbucks are all examples of the Bigger-is-Better mentality that has taken over the retailing mindset of consumers. You really cannot blame a company like Chapters for opening stores, which puts a small company like Granville Books out of business. They make money and stay in business because people shop there and buy books there. If we, as consumers, refused to shop at the megastores, they would soon close and we could go back to the local bookstores, small coffee shops, the hometown hardware store and regional dept stores.

Taking a little license with what the voice in Field of Dreams told Kevin Costner's character, "If they build it, we will come."
 

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America loves big stores….super Wal-Mart….super Target…..huge box stores …Home Depot and Costco….

Many Canadians claim to like the home town store…Canadian Tire……Revy (I think it is Roma now)….

I guess there must be a lot of Americans going to Canada to support the big box stores….because they sure are successful…

A free market will decide what stores make it and what stores don’t. The big stores offer good selection and cheap prices……If you are willing to pay more for less selection your Revy store will survive…if not it will go out of business……unless of course the Canadian government bails them out like they did Canadian Airlines.
 

Mr Blonde

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granville books closing

i would think it would be due to the increase of traffic in the granville area. ive been in chapters millions of times over the years and i don't know about you guys but i've never bought a thing. its a good place to meet chicks though :cool:
 

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luckydog71 said:
America loves big stores….super Wal-Mart….super Target…..huge box stores …Home Depot and Costco….

Many Canadians claim to like the home town store…Canadian Tire……Revy (I think it is Roma now)….

I guess there must be a lot of Americans going to Canada to support the big box stores….because they sure are successful…

A free market will decide what stores make it and what stores don’t. The big stores offer good selection and cheap prices……If you are willing to pay more for less selection your Revy store will survive…if not it will go out of business……unless of course the Canadian government bails them out like they did Canadian Airlines.
Ummm, Chapters is a *CANADIAN* company dude.

As far as Americans shopping there I don't know about that. Sure, you get 20 cents on the dollar more but something that costs $1.00 here costs $1.20 there so it all comes out in the wash.

We don't like superstores any more than you do. They kill competition and remove a lot of brand selection chioces in the process. Most cities have attempted to fight off Wal-mart but they're too strong. It's KILLED the grocery stores here. Home Depot blows as well nowadays but there's not a lot of alternatives. CostCo is alright becaue of quality. Being single though, I can't deal with the volume that you must buy there.

They thrive here because there is a population large enough to ensure a tidy profit for them. Don't mean that we "love them".

I go there for the chicks, the natural beauty and cool people, not to shop; that's for sure!
 

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Back in the day, I would come up to Van and buy quite a few books that I couldn't find in the US, mostly local interest material. But now I hardly ever do. Duthies on Robson went belly up, I think due to poor business management as well as competition from Chapters. Book Warehouse was driven off Robson as well -- rising rents?
Is it true that Chapters is the Canadian subsidiary of Borders?

I also bought quite a bit of music at Virgin, which doesn't have a Seattle store. In fact, it has nothing between San Fran and Van.
 

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Herb_The_Perb said:
Back in the day, I would come up to Van and buy quite a few books that I couldn't find in the US, mostly local interest material. But now I hardly ever do. Duthies on Robson went belly up, I think due to poor business management as well as competition from Chapters. Book Warehouse was driven off Robson as well -- rising rents?
Is it true that Chapters is the Canadian subsidiary of Borders?

I also bought quite a bit of music at Virgin, which doesn't have a Seattle store. In fact, it has nothing between San Fran and Van.
My old company tried to do some business with them awhile back. As far as I know, they're not affiliated.
 

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Chapters is owned by Indigo. Whether or not Indigo is Canadian or American, who really cares!

Walmart, Target, Costco and others are the premium examples of an excellent economic system.

The free market should be the final arbiter of all human worth. When seeking an SP, you want the best bang for the buck. Ultimately, you want the girl who gives it all away for nothing. When you go to a peeler bar, you want so much competition among the girls for your dollar, that the girls who are the loosest and most depraved should earn your last dime. The companies who can run the cruelest and cheapest jails deserve our hard-earned money to house felons. The hospitals that are the most clever at cutting costs therefore giving us the least expensive health care deserve our dollar when your daughter is dying. We should disband the military altogether and instead make it privately run. Let us hire the military industrialists like Lockheed to bring in their own soldiers. Let them compete against McDonnel Douglas, etc., for the most efficient fighting machines and most sadistic soldiers at the cheapest price. Let private companies manage our roads, coal, water, forests, etc. Everything is for sale at the right price!!!!
 

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georgebushmoron said:
Chapters is owned by Indigo. Whether or not Indigo is Canadian or American, who really cares!

Walmart, Target, Costco and others are the premium examples of an excellent economic system.

The free market should be the final arbiter of all human worth. When seeking an SP, you want the best bang for the buck. Ultimately, you want the girl who gives it all away for nothing. When you go to a peeler bar, you want so much competition among the girls for your dollar, that the girls who are the loosest and most depraved should earn your last dime. The companies who can run the cruelest and cheapest jails deserve our hard-earned money to house felons.
The problem is that they DO run the prisons and that is why we have the highest rate of incarceration in the free world. It's all about profit!

georgebushmoron said:
The hospitals that are the most clever at cutting costs therefore giving us the least expensive health care deserve our dollar when your daughter is dying. We should disband the military altogether and instead make it privately run. Let us hire the military industrialists like Lockheed to bring in their own soldiers. Let them compete against McDonnel Douglas, etc., for the most efficient fighting machines and most sadistic soldiers at the cheapest price. Let private companies manage our roads, coal, water, forests, etc. Everything is for sale at the right price!!!!
Yeah, look at what's happening with water and other things that are supposed to be public utilities. I don't necessarily agree with that.

I like the military angle. It probably wouldn't change things much since it's all about profit anyway!
 

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georgebushmoron said:
Let private companies manage our roads, coal, water, forests, etc. Everything is for sale at the right price!!!!
You have most of it right.....Of course we know what happened when those idiot DEMS decided government knows best and built 3 Mile Island.

W...you are my man.....please protect our borders....
 

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It is the rise of rent and the owners wanting to have newer buildingsthe reasons why businesses are closing on Granville Mall. Captial 6 closed down in favor of Famous Players Paramount.
 

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I love those big mega-store(such as chapters). They offer bigger selection, better customer service, and a better envirnoment. You can even order stuff on-line, check whether a particular book is in stock at a certain location. There is simply no way that a small traditional family run bookstore can compete with that. This is just the reality, and mega-stores are the future... period...
 

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There is simply no way that a small traditional family run bookstore can compete with that. This is just the reality, and mega-stores are the future... period...
i don't know about that ... Munroe's books (family owned for years) has two stores and both doing very well even with Chapters nipping at their heels ...

i can't remember if i have even bought a book at chapters but have a couple dozens boxes full of books i bought at Munroe's ...
 

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georgebushmoron said:
We should disband the military altogether and instead make it privately run.
Turning over most Iraq War support functions to Halliburton/KBR, with no cost contols or normal accounting methods in place, is a really good first step in this direction.
 

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Cali Scott said:
The problem is that they DO run the prisons and that is why we have the highest rate of incarceration in the free world. It's all about profit!


Yeah, look at what's happening with water and other things that are supposed to be public utilities. I don't necessarily agree with that.

I like the military angle. It probably wouldn't change things much since it's all about profit anyway!
Scott, ya gotta understand that Georgebushmoron is being ironic.
 

Herb_The_Perb

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shak said:
I love those big mega-store(such as chapters). They offer bigger selection, better customer service, and a better envirnoment. You can even order stuff on-line, check whether a particular book is in stock at a certain location. There is simply no way that a small traditional family run bookstore can compete with that. This is just the reality, and mega-stores are the future... period...
Better customer service -- not bloody likely. Maybe as good in some cases, but not as good in others.
 

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I've been going to the Granville Book Company for alomst 20 years. Going through college they had the best source of computer books. The two guys at the front desk knew almost every book they carried.

Ask them anything and they could find it for you. Best selection of Sci Fi in the city.

A sad loss all the way around. Down the drain with Duthie Books.

Chapters was nice when they first opened. They had chairs to sit in and when they got rid of the chairs I pretty much stopped going there all together. I didn't feel they offered the service that smaller stored offered.
 

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Herb_The_Perb said:
Better customer service -- not bloody likely. Maybe as good in some cases, but not as good in others.
I do have to agree with you.Those sales agent in the store dont know shit about the product half of the time and the other half of the time they are fighting with each other for customers(obviously for commission, especially with futureshop...). Fact is, with those mega stores, there are strict guide line that they are suppose to follow, and the terms listed are normally alot more generous and appealing than those smaller traditional shops. This is what I am getting at, in terms of being helpful and friendly, it really depends...
 

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Fotura said:
Chapters was nice when they first opened. They had chairs to sit in and when they got rid of the chairs I pretty much stopped going there all together. I didn't feel they offered the service that smaller stored offered.
Chapters started to suck when they were taken over by Indigo, which is owned by Heather Reisman, the wife of the guy who runs the Onex corporation. It was then that the chairs were taken away. BTW, Chapters/Indigo also owns almost all of the mall bookstore chains such as Coles and SmithBooks.

That said, although I prefer to shop at smaller bookstores, I will go to Chapters if they have a book I can't find anywhere else, and to browse their magazine racks...and to meet chicks!
 
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