Best way to sell stuff on line and get payed

[the old maxx50]

I posted this first in buy and sell on here so i hope it is Ok to post it here too .

I have been trying to sell some stuff on line .. put adds on Craigslist, Used Victoria and Kijiji ..

And i have had a number of responses .. I would like a local cash sale .. But most of the reply have been from out of town ,, some with some very convoluted explanations of where they are and who they are buying for .. My fav so far is . "I and not at home right now i am working in Finland , I want to buy your item for my friend who is on training in Belmont NJ.. i would like to pay through Pay Pal " .An other says .." I would like to talk on the phone but i am hearing impaired , so text works best ( I am ok with that ) but then " I am buy ng your item for my fiance's son who is at school in the western regions can you mail direct to him .. i want to pay with Pay Pal"

Both of those sound like scams .. If fact when i read Pay Pal term years ago i got the impression the seller had no protection if the Buyer canceler the payment after you have shipped .. The buyer just say they did not get it or it was't not what they ordered .. and Pay Pal take the money out of your account . Pay Pal only protects them selves

If I did get payment through Pay Pal ,when could i take the money out. or is it transferred to my credit card or bank account .. And again what is stopping Pay Pal from just taking the funds back and i am on the hook for the money just like a bad check..
In fact how often do the scamers use fake or stolen credit card and Pay Pal does not catch it before the item has been sent.

I personally want to sell locally and for cash .
I sold some tire up island I drove up and met them half way , that worked for me

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Pay Pal is actually very secure. I've used it for years and never had a problem. I'll admit that it has been a few years since I read the Terms and Conditions but I'm very happy with it. If someone was to use a bogus or stolen CC you still get your money as technicaly Pay Pal were the ones to accept their CC as payment, not you. If there is a dispute (and I've had a few) they've always contacted me saying the buyer was requesting a refund because... In every case after explaining to them the conditions of the sale (no refund, item as is, a buyer I tried to make happy but is just being difficult) they said "Okay" and told the buyer tough titty.
As for someone cancelling their payment after you've shipped the item. Again, they won't allow that unless there is a very good reason such as the item isn't what you said it was or it was broken, etc but again never without them contacting you and hearing out your side of the story. They are more than reasonable to deal with and understand there are lots of a-holes out there trying to rip sellers off with these kind of shenanigans.
I'd strongly advise you to use it.

Cheers

 

[bcneil]

The two people emailing you wanted to use paypal are both trying to scam you.

If you shipped to them, you will magically lose the money. Paypal will claim they werent verified buyers, and reverse payment.

 

[the old maxx50]

Yes I suspect that with any of these offers to buy where the person is out of town and want me to ship to a third party that it is a scam .

Fun how no one has just made a strait up offer Given there name and location and want me ship it to their actual address every one of the last half a dozen replies, have had some irregularity or suggestion that would make the sale and untraceable , Like being a way from home address . ,shipping to third party. using there shipper.. offering me $150 more to ship ..( at the price they could get it any where ) I can see where each one of those could be using stolen CC numbers.

Pay Pal may work well when the buyers and seller have a trusted record on sites like E bay .. But with a one time sale , and no way for me to confirm who i am selling to then there is a good possibility that I can get ripped off .
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Shipping COD through UPS would be secure I guess Can I trust UPS ?

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Can I trust UPS ?

my experience is that you can trust them to be assholes. i got home from work one time to find a notification that they had tried to drop off a parcel but since i wasn't home i could pick it up at their depot. so off i go across town to their depot where the clerk wanted to charge me $25 for 'storage' fees! i hit the fricken roof and when he didn't back down i have to say i got a bit belligerent, so i got it for $5 which i still thought was a fricken rip-off. but i thought the next step would be for him to call the cops so i shut up and paid the $5

since then i have bad-mouthed ups at every opportunity

fricken lizards...

 

[bcneil]

Either sell your camera cash in person, or sell it online on ebay or something like that.

Dont fall for anything else....A guy in Finland wants to buy it for a friend in New Jersey? Seriously they can't find a more affordable way to get this camera?
SO you have to conclude something is wrong.
The son-in-law is in college in the western region??? WTF does that even mean, I never heard the lower mainland ever called that.

Yeah UPS sucks. I am literally sitting home waiting for them right now. Ordered a car part from the states, and the only have UPS as an option.
But parts for my Porsche are hard to find local. It was $60 to ship ground, or $240 expedited. Now I get to wait and see if the brokerage and other fees that they charged me made ground even worth it.

 

[grusse]

oldmaxx50,

I've sold items via paypal.
what I did was wait until the money,via paypal, was in my bank account,THEN I shipped the goods.
I advised the buyer(s) that was what I was going to do&they sent the $.

This should weed out the scammers,I think.

 

[the old maxx50]

How long does it take for the money to be released from a Pay Pal account ..

 

[booblover]

the best for money transaction is Dwolla! It is mostly for Americans but I know a couple Canadians who use it. It doesn't matter how much money you are sending it is only $0.25!!

 

[Larry Storch]

I've never used paypal. I ran an ad on CL to sell a motorcycle a while back. Someone offered to pay me the amount I asked (no haggling) and cover the shipping as well. They said they were out of the country and would be back in a couple of months and wanted to pay with PP. They were going to send over a couple of friends to pick up the bike. I told him I didn't have a PP account and he emailed instructions on how to set one up. This was starting to get complicated so I told him that if he trusted his friends to pick up the bike and not go joyriding then he could trust them with the cash to pay me. Never heard back. If you google "Paypal scams" you get a ton of hits so people are using it to rip people off. I'm a bit skeptical.
Now when I sell something I use CL, Kijiji or used(yourcityname).com and ask for cash from a local buyer.
my 2¢ (and not with PP )

 

[the old maxx50]

Yes that is my feeling on Pay Pal too .. local and cash it kind of limits the buyers but there is no chance of steeling my stuff ..

 

[Larry Storch]

I dunno if it limits your buyers. Might take a little longer to sell though. I'm sure you remember "the good old days" before there was this series of interconnecting tubes called the internet (I do) when we sold stuff in the [airquotes]newspaper or local bulletin board[/airquotes]. It might have been in the garage for a few weeks or so but eventually it sold.
That's the way it was and we liked it!

 

[storm rider]

I myself have never had a single problem with Paypal though I have allways been the person who was buying something.As for Kijiji it is a good service but you do get your share of idiots who will drastically
undercut the price of something you are selling and justify doing it by saying "I will pay in cash"....I dont even reply to these assholes anymore...once in a while I deal with someone like myself who when they see something on Kijiji that they want and will pay what you are asking phone you directly and say "the item is sold to me,I will pay you what you are asking and I am coming over right now...consider that item SOLD"....people like that are very rare though.

As for UPS I hate them......if you order ANYTHING from the USA it turns into a shakedown for BS brokerage fees or storage fees....anytime I buy something on Ebay or any other website and the origin is the USA I stipulate that the shipping method must be United States Postal Service or there is no sale.

SR

 

[visiting]

I always get a laugh at those of you that complain at UPS rates.... I import things from around the world, and use UPS. Like many of you I complained at first, and started clearing my own shipments, then I noticed how much time and trouble it was.... I have other things to do than wait for customs to release the shipment......... so now I let UPS do it all the time. I would suggest having your smaller valued items (and smaller sizes packages by post as they have a flate rate, and they receive so many shipments I have even received some with-out having even been processed, ei no charge)

Remember UPS is a company there to make a profit, so they are not your friend trying to do you a favor. Because you are importing a $50 dollar item it costs the UPS the same work to clear customs as a $50,000 item.

see UPS rates here.
http://www.ups.com/content/ca/en/shipping/cost/zones/customs_clearance.html
* if you call UPS as soon as as you have the tracking number from your shipper you can ask UPS to prepay (give them your credit card info) so they don't have to send it COD to you will save you the COD Fee, or have it set up in advance for every shipment.

Canada Post importation info.
http://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/PGcustoms-e.asp#1382719

Canada Post import rates $8.50 (If the item is duty-free and tax exempt, no amount is charged)
http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/import/postal-postale/duty-droits-eng.html

 

[grusse]

How long does it take for the money to be released from a Pay Pal account ..

it wasn't long,2-3 business days as I recall.