BBBJ's Yay or Nay...

[Lilithlovesme]

This poll is purely for my own curiosity. When I was working before I can remember one client asking me if I would offer this. Now it seems almost every message I get contains an inquiry as to whether I will offer this or not. (I don't, by the way, but that's just my personal choice. What I wonder is, is this the norm now? How do you pooners feel about it? Do you seek girls who offer this service or do you avoid them? Or are you perhaps ambivalent? It seems the majority of prevalant posters are looking for this, but what about you lurkers?

Please note that this is not meant to be a 'stirring up shit' post. I would never judge an SP for the services she offers (even if they differ from mine) nor would I judge a client for seeking services he prefers. Just curious about the prevailing attitude. Lurkers, please throw your vote in! I'd like to get a good cross section of the community here.

 

[vidwindow]

Dude, as a new cummer, I have to say I was blown away by the first bbbj that I recieved. It was my second time out, and considering I hadn't had a blow job of any description in probably 15 years (yah, I know) I felt as if I had found Mecca....
However, as I begin to find my balance, I have to say that safety comes first.
Honestly, a hot chick who blows my mind is straight up whether she goes bbbj or cbj.
It should always be a mind f**k first. Otherwise, you're just another college kid with hard-on.

"someone who used to be a college kid with a Hard-on but grew up"
Vid

 

[edmontonGuy]

Lilith, if you've noticed that you're being asked about it more, it's also true that it's much more available than some years ago. Actually all of the extras (Greek, BLS, DFK, Daty, etc.) are much more available nowadays.

Ironically, because BBBJ is more available, I feel less inclined to try it (especially when you consider the rising rates of STDs and the influx of people to this city from everywhere)

On the other hand, I like to partake in the other stuff (DATY, BLS) which carry risks of their own. Even DFK and rubbing during bodyslide has low risk levels. Maybe not as much as BBBJ, but I don't really know why I draw the line where I do. Maybe someone else is more insightful.

A SP has the right to set whatever restrictions she wants. And I would hope that clients satisfaction comes from the overall experience and not whether a single thing is offered or not

 

[moi]

Wow when i read the post i was expecting different opinions but I'm very impressed to the guys above who posted.

I honestly thought I was one of the few people worrying about stuff like that being transferred etc. but apparently I'm not.

I understand a few years ago none of this was offered and now guys come in and ask if I do GFE etc. and look at me weird or dismissingly if I don't as if I've done something wrong.

When I first heard about DATY, BBBJ, etc. I had a few questions pop into my head such as:

do pooners that have home commitments not worry about contracting
do ladies not worry about the future after this life

 

[schizo_man]

I would have a hard time kissing a girl that I knew offered BBBJ as a service

 

[threepeat]

As far as I can tell, two things caused this change. In one of the studios in town, some girls started offering this as part of their "deluxe" ($300+) package. Some guys loved it, and now the economic pressure (hate bringing business into it, but...) is filtering down to the FS-only girls. Also, the visiting SPs from Montreal often offer BBBJ.

It's a pretty controversial issue, obviously. While I'd love to see a girl who gave it only for a few clients (wouldn't we all?) the reality is that a girl who gives to some is giving it to a lot. That being said, BBBJ is the norm in Montreal with Montreal SPs, and I read a post a long time ago on here where someone quoted Health Canada stats that Quebec was actually below the national average in terms of STDs. Maybe someone who knows where to get that stat can repost it. So I guess my take on it is, with the right girl once in a while, it would be awesome, but if she doesn't offer it, it's not a deal breaker, nor is it something I would seek on a regular basis anyway.

Guys, if a girl doesn't offer it, be a gentleman about it and don't get mad about it. Geez.

 

[burnman]

I'm lovin it

I really like the GFE style of service. For me, it makes the whole experience so much more intimate and enjoyable. Nothing pisses me off more then spending time with a beautiful girl whose "No" list is bigger than her "Yes" list. I recently spend a few nights at some German FKK Clubs where GFE (BBBJ, DFK, CIM, etc) have been offered for at least ten years. It was a great experience that I'll probably remember forever.

Personally, seeing a girl that is not GFE is now an exception for me. I still have some non-GFE favorites that I see once and a while, but the girls I see most of the time must have a GFE menu board. I know that there are some risks associated with this choice, but for me, they are risks I'm willing to accept. Everyone certainly has options in this area, but that's where I am.

 

[magic]

I would have a hard time kissing a girl that I knew offered BBBJ as a service

Same here,as most of the sp who offer BBBJ also offer DFk.think about it....

 

[scottyman69]

While I'd love to see a girl who gave it only for a few clients (wouldn't we all?) the reality is that a girl who gives to some is giving it to a lot.
Guys, if a girl doesn't offer it, be a gentleman about it and don't get mad about it. Geez.

Agree on both counts.

 

[Imjustaguy69696]

Once

I received a bbbj once from an SP/MPA and it was incredible, however it sent me into a headspin and i became very paranoid that i may have contracted something so i don't think i will be doing it again.

Truly, as long as there is chemistry between me and the lady and everyone gets off then that is all that matters to me.

I do prefer to see girls who allow DATY though. Its just something that I love doing.

 

[DQ Guy]

If she knows what shes doing a cbj can be just as good, mind you safer then,
a bbbj.. so yea... Im up for the glove

 

[Dr Phibes]

I guess I'm of the opinion that if it's available then it's nice but I don't seek it out. If I'm seeking a girl that offers GFE I'm more there for the DFK than BBBJ but if I'm seeking a girl that just offers regular FS then I'm fine with a standard CBJ as I'm more there for the companionship and the release than the extras.

 

[Bartdude]

I've had both, and while BB is the ideal way to receive oral (Pam and Shannon come to mind), it is not absolutely necessary.

I've had some CBJ's that were incredible. I see Tiffany from Kates once in a while, and she does it as well as anybody I've seen.

According to what I read from Health Nurse, the risk for the guy is minimal, but elevated somewhat for the SP.

Bottom line - an SP who gives good head can send you into convulsions with or without the party hat.

 

[magic]

I agree that the risk to a guy recieving bbbj is minimal. My logic tells me however, that whatever the sp may catch from bbbj could be passed on to the client through daty or cold sores if you kiss her. So, the rest of her extras become more high risk as a consequence.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[Bartdude]

Yeah, but....

What I was saying is that if you get BBBJ and keep everything else safe, the risks are relatively low for the client.

So many guys partake in DATY - which is riskier to the client, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Kittie]

Guys, if a girl doesn't offer it, be a gentleman about it and don't get mad about it. Geez.

thank you

 

[Lilithlovesme]

Thanks to all those who have taken the time to reply to this. I think this has developed into quite an interesting and elightening conversation.

Risk/Reward ratio seems to play a big part in this for pooners and SP's alike. For myself, I don't think that the potential for reward is enough to justify taking on more risk. How about you ladies out there that do offer it? How did you come to the decision to offer it? And what kind of an impact did it have on your business?

 

[S.G. Gibson]

When an sp has offered it I have not turned it down but I do not seek it out either. It's not that important to me in a session. A really good CBJ can be better than BBBJ too.

 

[sales]

I have cut myself back to two providers in Edmonton, one does and one does not. The first time I had a BBBJ, I was freaked out for a few days, but felt more comfortable with it as time went on and enjoyed it. For me, the reason I have gone to two providers only is not about levels of menu, but about the personality match.

 

[threepeat]

Some stats

Ok I did some poking around and found some STI transmission stats, from Health Canada: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/std-mts/stdcases-casmts/cases-cas-08-eng.php

STI in Quebec is way under the national average for chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis. In fact, statistically-speaking a visiting SP from Montreal has a better chance of picking up something from an Alberta pooner than the other way around...

That being said, pooners and SPs make up only a small part of the overall population, so take this with a grain of salt. Still, it is a piece in the overall puzzle, IMHO.

BTW, the Health section of PERB has a useful sticky on this subject, for those who want the nuts and bolts on the risks involved.

Lilith, this is a great topic and I love your style, though I have never seen you in person. I say this with no negative intentions, but I'm wondering if your specialization (dom) maybe leads some to think extreme, which leads them to think risky sex, ie., BBBJ?

I was actually thinking about posting a question like this myself, because one of my favourite SPs left town a while back, saying she did not care for this new GFE trend that was developing in Edmonton. I didn't know the industry had changed, but I guess it has . I'm not saddened girls offer it, but I'm saddened that some guys would act like pricks to girls who didn't. She told me she was actually driven to tears some days.

On the flip side, girls who charge $300+ for a one hour session should not be surprised to get the question, as guys in this market are likely expecting at least one extra for that price. Pushing the envelope on pricing leads to pushing the envelope on service and restrictions.