bad experience with outcalls while out of town. advice?

[smurfboy604]

I was at a boys trip over the weekend in Montreal and well... it ended up with the SP running off after being paid.

Situation: on the 1st night I had started the night off well by cruisin backpages. it took some trial and error. we turned away 1 SP for being too different from the pics and got a tongue lashing by the driver saying 'nobody turns away girls'.
1st night ended up ok though. one of the backpage ads we called after worked out. was stoked. service was excellent.

on the 2nd night after clubbing I was one of the last 4 awake at 3am and texted a SP on backpage again. first question is always... are u really as cute as your pics? 1st SP arrives by car and she's older, overweight and unattractive. we don't let her in.

we regroup. and while cruisin for the next number to text, a friend who was outside smoking brings in a girl. says she was outside asking if we were the ones who called her out.

flustered as I had planned to screen at the door but now she's inside. 2 of the 4 guys awake shake their heads and head to the kitchen for beers. i take a look and she's probably a bit high on something (faded eyes) but she's young and shapely and the other guy, I'll call him Buddy, (don't know him well) is already chatting her up.

she starts askin who's paying for her hour. she says it's 2 browns, I told her the ad says it's less. she calls her driver. she says it's fine. so I pony up a brown and 4 greens.

I start over to unwrap her but Buddy asks her out for a smoke. I go grab my smokes and join them outside. We're chatting her up and Buddy starts getting effed up aggressive, grabbing her arm to get her close and out of the blue sayin sh*t like "I'm going to murder you tonight". I was shocked. I abhor violence. but the moment passed and she's like "not outside" to his advances.. so Buddy heads back inside. We stay out to finish her smoke, she's texting a bit, we're flirting and i see a car pull up. driver calls to her and all of a sudden she's in the car and they're off.

:T

I guess I'm posting for some feedback. try to learn from the experience.

the next morning, I confronted Buddy and asked him to check his head about how he treats people. He said something like.... she knew I was just joking.

I was blamed for paying up front by Buddy and one of the 2 guys that went to the kitchen for beers. but I don't think that was wrong. from perb, i know that donations come first. no?

I'm left with a bunch of questions as to where I went wrong...

Is it reasonable to screen outcalls when they arrive? or are pics mostly fake so I just pay for what shows up?

what were the worst mistakes made?

paying her first? negotiating her rate for a green? going outside for a smoke with her? not calling out Buddy for being a jerk right away and make her feel safe?

I don't really care but I was stuck with the bill. but am curious what opinions are as to how blame should be assessed.

I have to say that I enjoyed outcalling quite a bit the first night.
it's been a long time since pooning for me, but when I'm home, I usually do incalls. but... if I could have a call in gfe in town at my place, I'd do that again. but given this experience, all my guards are up. can outcalls be done reasonably safely at home in the 604?

thanks in advance

 

[felixthecat]

what were the worst mistakes made?

paying her first? negotiating her rate for a green? going outside for a smoke with her? not calling out Buddy for being a jerk right away and make her feel safe?

There was no way she would feel safe after your Buddy's outburst. Yes, you should have called him out right away, but it's still way too dangerous for her to go ahead with the session. She handled the escape in about the best way possible, pretending everything's fine to avoid further aggression from the group of degenerates. I'm not claiming each one is a degenerate, but as a group you become more dangerous if the most aggressive members are not called on it.

She'd probably rather have evening never happened. The money is not worth it for that kind of threatening experience. It's only fair she got the money.

 

[Dnice]

I did many boys trips to Montreal. I stuck to the well known agencies and avoided back pages though. We usually rent a flat while we were there with separate bedrooms. I would always inform the person on the phone there's a group of us here and if that would be ok. Sometimes they will say no and only the person who's seeing the sp can be present. Other times if we bring in multiple girls they're ok. Point being let them know ahead of time who's going to be there or they may bounce if they feel unsafe. Had one leave because of this, and we learned from that.

I don't blame that girl for taking off I'd be freaked by your friend too. Consider that your learning experience and move on. As for outcalls here, unless you really know and have a good relationship with the sp, I wouldn't advise using your home. That's just too risky in my opinion. Especially if you are going to use backpages.

 

[Har-Don]

So many mistakes here. I agree with felixthecat. She got away from what she thought was a bad situation that threatened her safety. It's already intimidating for a lady to deal with a group of guys and a lot of ladies wouldn't put themselves in that position. I wonder if you mentioned there were a few guys in the house when you booked her?

But I think one of the biggest mistakes is calling around looking for escorts at 3am, probably still half in the bag. Only bad decisions are made at 3am.

 

[westwoody]

She did not run off. She left a dangerous situation before it got worse.

Seriously you come across as a bunch of drunk obnoxious frat boys.

You are every woman's worst nightmare.

 

[smurfboy604]

thanks everyone for the input. i got a good dose of what was coming to me.
he says i was drunk and misheard him. it's on me.
to be clear, I barely knew the guy and that will continue.
anyhow, thanks again. needed that. think i'll just head back to retirement.