Attitude Problems

[DavidMR]

I do not like to ask for my donation, so when you show up, please have it ready, preferably in an unmarked envelope, and hand it to me discreetly.


Men, do you ever see material like this on SP websites? I have seen entries like this several times, and to me it indicates underlying attitude problems, a haughtiness that isn't going to play well during the conduct of an encounter. Why would someone put up a website to attract customers, and then basically tell them that if to pay attention to picky details, or else.

 

[sweetiepie1]

I do not like to ask for my donation, so when you show up, please have it ready, preferably in an unmarked envelope, and hand it to me discreetly.


Why would someone put up a website to attract customers, and then basically tell them that if to pay attention to picky details, or else.

Um, because they don't like to ask for the donation?? That's just a very, very wild guess from a civilian woman.

 

[threepeat]

I do not like to ask for my donation, so when you show up, please have it ready, preferably in an unmarked envelope, and hand it to me discreetly.


Men, do you ever see material like this on SP websites? I have seen entries like this several times, and to me it indicates underlying attitude problems, a haughtiness that isn't going to play well during the conduct of an encounter. Why would someone put up a website to attract customers, and then basically tell them that if to pay attention to picky details, or else.

I wouldn't necessarily say haughtiness or underlying attitude, but I do think it's more of a U.S. thing, as in the whole *nudge* *nudge* *wink* *wink* paying-for-companionship-only-and-whoops-here's-an-envelope.

I do find it a little weird though, in the sense that how does the SP know the correct amount is in the envelope unless she pulls it out and counts it, thus spoiling the whole discretion thing.

I guess she could take it to the bathroom, but why bother? I personally have no problem if the SP counts the money right in front of me, then there's no misunderstandings either way. And the SPs I've seen have never had a problem with me just handing them the bills.

 

[uncleg]

I do not like to ask for my donation, so when you show up, please have it ready, preferably in an unmarked envelope, and hand it to me discreetly.


Men, do you ever see material like this on SP websites? I have seen entries like this several times, and to me it indicates underlying attitude problems, a haughtiness that isn't going to play well during the conduct of an encounter. Why would someone put up a website to attract customers, and then basically tell them that if to pay attention to picky details, or else.

Consider this option. It's a first time encounter, she does not know you. You show up hand over the envelope as per instructions, it's not a big thing but it is an indication that you are willing to play by her rules. Come in and play silly bugger over the envelope and you are likely to do the same over other rules you may consider silly. Think about it.

 

[DavidMR]

There's a tone to these "etiquette" lines that I find off-putting, an assumption that most clients are jerks. I agree with the comment about having to count it in any case.

I usually do provide donations in bank machine envelope right at the start. Being told to please do this sounds like talking down to me.

 

[ThisEndUp]

Denial about being a working girl?

 

[sevenofnine]

i think the donation thing is pretty standard or almost any way.

but i get what you mean, you read some sps web pages, and some of them are long, and some are full of warnings and even threats if you miss behave.

i won't mention her name but one sp in particular parts of her web page just stood out to me as warning or a plain threat if i miss behaved.
never thougth about it, im not a newbi in this or wasn't when i saw her, and she had been around for awhile never heard or read anything bad about her. so i felt what the fuck, i saw her.


but, she wasn't at all friendly hard to get to know or relax with her. it was a lousy session,
paid more money for her then i paid for any one, but the worst session i ever had period.
in parts she was just rude, i should have just walked out. but she made it clear she was keeping my money once she had it no matter if i turned around and walked five mintues after i got there,

so i toughed it out, and was the toughest session i ever had,
and im sorry i get the chemistry wasn't there, we didn't hit it off at all.
but if she didn't feel like it just give me my money back

she has had great reviews since then,
i know she was upset when i saw her, i won't mention why, but why take it out on me.


any way, the first sign of attitude im out. long gone.
i pay or we pay good money, for no attitude, and i have seen alot of sps with no problem or hint of attitude, just can't be bothered wasting my time and even paying for it.
one sp we even got into a fight in our emails. never saw her she just gave me some attitude in email
and i said what the hell is this, we got into,

like i said can't be bothered wasting my time,
lot of nice sps out there, great sps out there, why waste my time

 

[Unpossible]

There's a tone to these "etiquette" lines that I find off-putting, an assumption that most clients are jerks.

There is no tone in the written word. You're reading into it.

 

[DavidMR]

An envelope makes it more discreet when bringing it in, as well it makes it feel more date like which many gentlemen prefer.

"...more date like...". Well, that's not what I used to do on dates, but maybe I wasn't part of the in-group!

 

[Pirate Code]

I think its really interesting what people will inject into the words they read. I have done it myself. If you are already thinking the person who's writing has an agenda of some kind that you don't like, or has some kind of attitude you perceive, then you will read that agenda or attitude into whatever they write. It's human nature to do this. I will bet there was something else on her website that rubbed you the wrong way, or you already have an attitude that means you will always read negative into what providers write.

It is ironic that the attitude problem could actually be the op's. But perhaps upon reviewing her website more, he will find other reasons for his assumption.

 

[jadewarrior27]

I have that on my site mostly because it can be awkward to have to ask for th donation and it should be ready upon arrival.

I'm with Vanessa on this one. I too find it awkward. One of the first times with an SP i was counting it out right in front of her, dropping bills all over the place...embarassing. It's just that piece of biz that at least i prefer to get over with quickly, so we can get to the FUN PART!!!

 

[sevenofnine]

of course there is tone in words and attitude.

everything you say reveals something about you, what you say and how you chose to say it.

just reading victoriajolie's post. for instance
never met her,

but she is some one i would recomend or want to see,
soft intellegent words, knows of what she speaks but says it in a very soft concillitary way,
totally non abrasive,

other ladys sps, they post, and it just feels so abrasive and arguementative, even rude.

for sure if you cross a lady look out, and if you mess up you get what you deserve.
but some ladies it just seems like there waiting or expecting you to screw up and they have there claws out all the time.

 

[sevenofnine]

no honey victoria jolie

we have never met,
i remember surfing the net, and i believe i found a blog of yours if im not mistaken, and i liked what you said and sent you a quick email saying hi. liked what you said.

you were coming to calgary, i would have liked to have seen you,
but i had a regualar appointment set up with my regular sp. the same week,
i see her for long supper dates, i couldn't afford to see you both.
and its rude to cancel on some one,

but yeah i have seen your ads around for awhile,
you have always struck me as a girl i would like to get to know.

i don't know how to say this, but i see sps or pick sps because i find them interesting, they seem like some one i would like to meet. share a coffee with a beer or a glass of wine. supper

the physical part just seems more interesting that way, more enjoyable.

any way we have never met, but maybe one day.

 

[DavidMR]

To me it's a communications issue. Do you go to restaurants that have big signs outside saying that customers who are rude, ill-behaved, or penniless will be refused service? Probably not, because they don't advertize that, it's understood. Instead, they have signs saying what they offer.

 

[Mya Veronica]

I don't think its meant to sound bitchy (in most cases)
the envelope thing is not just more discreet but also a way to avoid doing something that could be considered illegal, most places (including Canada) make "communication for the purposes of", a crime.
I agree a lot of web sites include detailed instruction that may seem like common sense to most people. When I first made up my web site last year I did not bother to include some (i thought) totally common sense advice for fear of insulting someones intelligence. Low and behold a few "gentlemen" made seriously stupid mistakes. I had to revise my page.
Its true, there are so many providers here in Vancouver if you find her advertising abrasive you can just move on to someone else. From my perspective there are also so many clients out there that if you act like an ass or have a problem with simple requests for discretion ect. I will move on to the next too.
As Victoria wrote if this info sounds elementary to you it is not written for you but for the more clueless among you. Don't take offence

 

[DavidMR]

Well, some people are incapable of understanding - that's why restaurants post these signs

Al, ... great photos. Are these pictures you actually took at restaurants you actually patronize?

 

[Corbin]

In an "unmarked" envelope? But I usually put it in one marked "$$$ for Sex". So that's not good?

 

[Umbras]

I don't get why people are in a hissy over a simple polite request that alleviates what can be awkward especially for first timers who are completely clueless about ettiquete.

I find just handing cash over to be informal and can actually deaden the experience if handled incorrectly. This way when you enter you can discretely place it on a counter and move along with out a second thought or distraction, I don't want to put her in an awkward position of having to ask as it ends up beign more emberassing for me in the end.

It is about comfort zones and respecting them, if people are not able to handle one small thing then it may indicate that they are not respectfull enough for a second encounter in the future.

Compansions put a great deal of effort into pleaseing us and we should do our best to respect any request that the ladies request from us to ensure the night goes well.

 

[myrmidon]

..Some men like to compare the experience to buying tires at Canadian Tire..

Trust me Victoria, No body every compared seeing you to buying tires at Cdn Tire!

..If you see thing like that on the website it shouldn't ruffle your feathers..It should roll over your shoulders
as since you do it already..it is adressing to someone else

VJ

As always, the calm voice of reason.

Personally, I like to discretely present the envelope just prior to having my shower, so the lady may discreetly examin it, if she wishes. Then she can finish her preparations to 'welcome' the fresh me from the shower!

Myr.

 

[Fillup]

I'm not sure you can compare this to eating in a restaurant. Most people know what is expected when they dine out. Paying for sex may leave a few questions unnaswered. I've never been asked for money. I always TCOB when entering the room. I do the same with other business transactions as well. It makes sense to me that these things are cleared up early in the time alotted.

It is business, just if it is done right it's a very pleasurable business deal. Like a great restaurant meal or movie.