A Ukrainian Bride

[VanessaofBC]

I hope I can get some feed back from you all and your perspective on Ukrainian Brides.

My older single male friend, "joe", has decided he is not going to find the "hot" young lady he wants in Canada (He is short and portly) so he is prepared to make a trip to the Ukraine where an "introduction" agency will introduce him to several women of his choosing. Joe would pre-select the ladies from reading their bios online. He would rent a small apartment well there (through the agency), receive a cell phone that he would keep even when returning to Canada so he can have contact with the ladies whenever he likes.

It would be a one week trip. There would be a few other guys there and events would be organized for them to attend. Just dinner, bowling, etc.

He is really seriously thinking about doing this and he thinks the sooner the better. Within the next 4 months.
He has talked to immigration and has been researching different introduction agencys.

I told him to go for it (I am his friend and want to support him). If he does not do it he may regret it. I also said it may require several visits to Ukraine, not just one. You would want the chance to meet her family and friends, experience her culture....that way you would get a better idea of her character as well.

So, what do you guys think, any opinions?

 

[chilli]

If he is having problems with women from Canada (let's face it most Canadian women are a royal pain in the ass, severely messed up, materialistic) I don't think he's going to see much difference with the ones from Russia.

Personally I think it's wiser to go a country noted for women who are not generally known as "gold diggers".

South America seems better in that regard.

Quite honestly I wouldn't do it - it's just too risky, if things don't work out you are on the hook - and it can become quite a financial nightmare.

 

[Torrential]

Mail order brides from Eastern Europe have a predictable track record once they get here.

Under federal rules, any Canadian who marries and sponsors a foreigner is legally responsible for supporting them for three years after their spouse gets permanent residency. If they collect social assistance in that period, the sponsor must pay it back, even if they get divorced in the interim. - CBC News

You might want to read the news of late. This literally just happened to some BC senior and now he's stuck with a $25k government social assistance bill because his Russian wife collected welfare the day their papers were finalized and left him. There's talk they'll immanently going to foreclose his property.

You also might want to read up on the risks of going alone into a foreign country in circumstances that might lead to criminal activity or human trafficking.

 

[VanessaofBC]

@muffineater: LOL, thanks for being honest. He says he just really wants a kid out of the deal more than anything. So would she "fuck off" on arrival to the country or after having the kid? Because I think if it was after she had a kid he would not mind.

@Torrential: Yes, he has talked to immigration and is aware of the 3 year deal. He would be going to the country alone, but meeting other men who are there for the same reason. Other agencies do not provide that it was more a one-on-one. That is why he is thinking this agency over the others.

@chili: SA, eh? Hmm...i will let him know.

 

[badbadboy]

I have a friend who went through this whole scam from beginning to end. Flew to somewhere in the former Soviet Union TWICE. Got to hold hands with her on both trips. She was definitely model material and the pics were hot. Helped her with her Canadian Immigration papers etc. Can't remember how the whole sordid tale went down but he was out nearly $30K by the time she told him he was too old and not her type.

They know how to play wealthy lonely North Americans very well.

 

[87112]

Well I for one can sure see the appeal of Eastern European women. I want one myself! I would only do it if someone I trusted introduced me to someone, no out of the blue dating agency. With the sky high divorce rate there the women have been taught now to stay one step ahead of the game.

One week is barely enough time, you need 2 days to get your body clock adjusted to the time difference. You look awful the first few days. I got sick and went the hospital cause I got nausea from being up more than 24 hrs. You fly here in the afternoon and arrive there midday and you have another day ahead of you.

Good luck to your friend.

 

[COLONEL ANGUS]

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind

He says he just really wants a kid out of the deal more than anything.

Make Joe aware that there are adoption agencies if he wants a child

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

Once the girl steps foot into Canada you are responsible for her even if she never sees you.
There was a documentry on this where one girl from India got approved and came here and the husband didn't know that she was even in the country.
It's super risky for a Canadian to marry a woman from another country.
Once she is here she has no need for you.
It's really retarded to think marrying a woman from a poor country will work well when your not the same age and have nothing in common.

If he just wants a kid find a woman willing to be a surrogate or something and keep banging escorts.

 

[87112]

How about lowering your friends expectations? Forget Hot and younger how about same age and divorced. A lot of divorced woman are not players anymore and just want a normal life.l

 

[Ray]

I'll add my voice to those that say it's a horrible idea and he is going to get dumped once she gets her papers.
I've seen it happen to a coworker, and to a friend of a friend. Never seen one case that had a happy ending.

Even the ones from countries like Thailand. I know of a few guys who were married in Thailand to very attractive women, and got dumped once they had papers. (And they got half the house and assets.)

Better to poon. And get in shape.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Actually,why don't you take one for the team?

You mean my friend...he should do it for the sake of TOFTT?!?!?

Anyway.. he has been pooning for years and he just wants to have his "own" child with an attractive young lady, that is why he does not want a divorcee.

 

[jay]

Since i have lived in Ukraine and know all about the mail order bride "business" I would like to ad my 2 cents to this thread. Chances are really good that Joe will come home empty handed , the days of the ladys over there grabbing the first western guy that will offer them a free trip to the west are long gone ! The eastern block countrys have come along way to catching up with the west economically ! The mail order bride buisness still exists only because men are still dreaming and women still get paid for posting there photos on those sites and attending socials that the tour agencys host ! My best advice for Joe would be for him to take at least a month to start with and go spend some time in Ukraine and start learning everything he can about the place and how things work over there ! Before he can ever believe that marriage with a ukrainian lady will work out he needs to understand how they think and what they will be expecting from him as a man !

 

[Tugela]

How about lowering your friends expectations? Forget Hot and younger how about same age and divorced. A lot of divorced woman are not players anymore and just want a normal life.l

If he is older and wants children specifically, he is obviously not going to hook up with women his own age.

That said, I think any sort of "mail order" spouse is a really bad idea, because the person you are bringing in is doing it to exploit you. Not a solid basis for a relationship.

 

[cjac7214]

These trips are scams, total scams. Do the research.

 

[CJ Tylers]

just tell him to go on vacation to china, or japan. Tell him to avoid any agencies or pay for pleasure temptations... just be friendly and open with the people there. Chances are, somebody will get interested in him... maybe even somebody cute, that shares similar goals as his.

This mail order bride scheme is awful, and supporting him in doing it is a bad idea.

 

[InnocentBoy]

Joe needs to go to a FKK club in germany STAT.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Have you considered being the hot girl that Joe gets pregnant? Make a contract and have him pay you for your time as well as anything you might need while pregnant

Vanessa+Babies= N E V E R !!!!!!! WTF!?!?

ROFLMFAO

 

[yazoo]

I think your friend should go for it. If he thinks Ukranian women are his thing, then he should shoot for the stars.

But I am a firm believer in trafficking the man, not the women. He probably has a far greater chance of success if he settles down in the Ukraine with his new honey. She maintains her connection to family, culture and friends, and he gets to learn a new way of living and language.

At the very least, half, half. If he's not willing to do what he's asking her to do then where's the commitment?

 

[chuckanut]

if he was tall and white, he coulda just gone to japan. i've had many a friend go there to teach english, and girls have literally thrown themselves at them. had a buddy who had a class where the girls in the front row all had mini-skirts on, and no undies. they would spread wide open and show off for him every day during class. don't worry, he knew better than to engage with them, but he got so much poon anyway just from random japanese women coming up to him. bastard!!

-chuck
**retired**

 

[Sucre]

I think your friend should go for it. If he thinks Ukranian women are his thing, then he should shoot for the stars.

But I am a firm believer in trafficking the man, not the women. He probably has a far greater chance of success if he settles down in the Ukraine with his new honey. She maintains her connection to family, culture and friends, and he gets to learn a new way of living and language.

At the very least, half, half. If he's not willing to do what he's asking her to do then where's the commitment?

If your friend has money and can afford it, then he should follow his dreams. But, the correct approach is indeed move to that country and live there; he can support her there and she will have family there and if she has a kid there with him she will not leave him or not leave him as soon as she will continue to need his support. Rent the house and pay for everything while together including food, utilities, transport and also her an allowance of $2,000 per month for her savings, clothes and personal items. He will also pay her $12,000 for every whole year she stays living with him (seperated or living in seperate rooms does not count); And sign a pre nup to this effect. He can avoid immigration and finacial issues where she can claim half his family assets etc. if her stays there.

That said if she comes here, instead of him living there even with good intentions life style and age and attention by others dictates she will not stay much longer than it takes to finalize her immigration papers. However it may be worth it to have a hot young woman live with him for 2 years. Second he can hav ehot and young but other cultures are better than Russia for this. Some cultures, especially Japan rever older men; they have a bit of a father complex and he does not need to be tall. Same Tailand and phillipines, provied the latter two countries, they will not stay with him; a japanese girl may as she must save facewith her family (assuming you meet them and get their approval first)