Are any of the sugar baby sites legit

In my experience, the juice isn’t really worth the squeeze. They aren’t totally fake… or at least I’ve seen a handful of profiles of girls who I’ve met irl at some point and the names/ages match and all of them were the kind of girls who would create a profile on a site like that. But there are a lot of fake profiles on there too-and you’ve gotta spend money to chat with any of them. And most of the girls who make profiles on sites like that have somewhat unrealistic expectations of their value-so even if you do find yourself chatting with one that is real they want you to give them a lot for not much in return. I’ve found that if you want to find a sugar baby or sugar babies you are better off just using the dating apps.

Seeking and it's affiliates, which as it turns out are plentiful, have rebranded themselves to avoid any implication of pay for play. In fact, suggesting money for time/sex on their sites gets you banned with no refund. So a lot of the ladies on there have gotten horrific attitudes about being paid just to look pretty or email back and forth with you. Any suggestion of meeting or mutually beneficial arrangements can get you reported.

Secret Benefits seems to be more legit. Still lots of the same problems as the rest of the sites, insane expectations, platonic only type requests, but also lots of amateur ladies and semi-pro who are open about meeting for cash, some of those can turn into something greater. The challenge is weeding through the crap to find the real ones. They are not cheap, and Secret Benefits uses this silly credits system where it's 10 credits to view photos, 10 more for videos and 10 more for reading answers to prompt questions, plus a final 10 for messaging. When you are buying 500 or 1000 credits at a time, you can blow through 400 bucks of credits only talking to 10 or 20 ladies, so be careful. Their top admirer bullshit is another scam to be avoided. I met the lady I mentioned in another thread on this site, she was a part-time SP who became a paid girlfriend of sorts for 9 months, great experience until I couldn't meet her financial needs and she upgraded to a stockbroker.

Another thing, if all they talk about in their profile is shopping or travel, tread carefully. There's a lot of 20 something Yaletown Kardashian wanna be's on these sites that look the part, over done hair, make up, botox at 25, lip fillers and what they really want is someone who will pay for all of that for the least amount of effort possible and sex to them is only as a last resort, at least with her older, more established sugar daddy. If they won't sit down for a nice lunch or a drink without 300 or 500 upfront, run! The attitude doesn't get better as you go, only more entitled.

MauiMan said:

Seeking and it's affiliates, which as it turns out are plentiful, have rebranded themselves to avoid any implication of pay for play. In fact, suggesting money for time/sex on their sites gets you banned with no refund. So a lot of the ladies on there have gotten horrific attitudes about being paid just to look pretty or email back and forth with you. Any suggestion of meeting or mutually beneficial arrangements can get you reported.

Secret Benefits seems to be more legit. Still lots of the same problems as the rest of the sites, insane expectations, platonic only type requests, but also lots of amateur ladies and semi-pro who are open about meeting for cash, some of those can turn into something greater. The challenge is weeding through the crap to find the real ones. They are not cheap, and Secret Benefits uses this silly credits system where it's 10 credits to view photos, 10 more for videos and 10 more for reading answers to prompt questions, plus a final 10 for messaging. When you are buying 500 or 1000 credits at a time, you can blow through 400 bucks of credits only talking to 10 or 20 ladies, so be careful. Their top admirer bullshit is another scam to be avoided. I met the lady I mentioned in another thread on this site, she was a part-time SP who became a paid girlfriend of sorts for 9 months, great experience until I couldn't meet her financial needs and she upgraded to a stockbroker.

Another thing, if all they talk about in their profile is shopping or travel, tread carefully. There's a lot of 20 something Yaletown Kardashian wanna be's on these sites that look the part, over done hair, make up, botox at 25, lip fillers and what they really want is someone who will pay for all of that for the least amount of effort possible and sex to them is only as a last resort, at least with her older, more established sugar daddy. If they won't sit down for a nice lunch or a drink without 300 or 500 upfront, run! The attitude doesn't get better as you go, only more entitled.

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I think pretty much all of this advice holds true for any city - just a smaller market so less options. But just a heads up this is the Winnipeg forum. Cheers.

A few you may not have heard of:
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MauiMan said:

Seeking and it's affiliates, which as it turns out are plentiful, have rebranded themselves to avoid any implication of pay for play. In fact, suggesting money for time/sex on their sites gets you banned with no refund. So a lot of the ladies on there have gotten horrific attitudes about being paid just to look pretty or email back and forth with you. Any suggestion of meeting or mutually beneficial arrangements can get you reported.

Secret Benefits seems to be more legit. Still lots of the same problems as the rest of the sites, insane expectations, platonic only type requests, but also lots of amateur ladies and semi-pro who are open about meeting for cash, some of those can turn into something greater. The challenge is weeding through the crap to find the real ones. They are not cheap, and Secret Benefits uses this silly credits system where it's 10 credits to view photos, 10 more for videos and 10 more for reading answers to prompt questions, plus a final 10 for messaging. When you are buying 500 or 1000 credits at a time, you can blow through 400 bucks of credits only talking to 10 or 20 ladies, so be careful. Their top admirer bullshit is another scam to be avoided. I met the lady I mentioned in another thread on this site, she was a part-time SP who became a paid girlfriend of sorts for 9 months, great experience until I couldn't meet her financial needs and she upgraded to a stockbroker.

Another thing, if all they talk about in their profile is shopping or travel, tread carefully. There's a lot of 20 something Yaletown Kardashian wanna be's on these sites that look the part, over done hair, make up, botox at 25, lip fillers and what they really want is someone who will pay for all of that for the least amount of effort possible and sex to them is only as a last resort, at least with her older, more established sugar daddy. If they won't sit down for a nice lunch or a drink without 300 or 500 upfront, run! The attitude doesn't get better as you go, only more entitled.

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True, during lockdown tho, there were lots of them and more accommodating.
Met 2 who were reasonable and nice. Like won’t charge you for hanging out with them as long as you pay if you go out for food and movies. Only when doing the deed. The ones I’ve been able to get an answer back, wants you to pay for nothing in exchange. It’s like pay per view, like you wanna text? Pay. You wanna go out for dinner and or movies? Pay. You wanna do the deed? Meh, I want more money before meeting you

I’m actually very interested meeting a fwb on Ashley Madison anyone ever tried?

MauiMan said:

There's a lot of 20 something Yaletown Kardashian wanna be's on these sites that look the part, over done hair, make up, botox at 25, lip fillers and what they really want is someone who will pay for all of that for the least amount of effort possible and sex to them is only as a last resort, at lea

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I’m actually around many of these girls in my personal life ( not by choice ) ,

While I do find some of them are attractive to look at when you first meet them,

However most truly believe they are Vancouvers answer to an actual Kardashian .
So that doesn’t last long ,

After spending any more than ten minutes speaking w any of them I find most of them horribly unattractive (as people in general) and start counting down how much longer I will have to tolerate listening to them before I can get away .

I can accurately predict how every conversation will go . No matter what you say , the conversation will always go back to them talking about themselves . Literally 100% of the time , as they have about as much depth as a tea saucer .

I can’t even imagine paying to be around any of them .

There's lots of sugar babies overseas. I have a few in Indonesia for myself

Jokerz said:

I’m actually very interested meeting a fwb on Ashley Madison anyone ever tried?

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Scam site, hacked in the past, waste of time and money. It's been discussed at length online.

Once you go black said:

I’m actually around many of these girls in my personal life ( not by choice ) ,

While I do find some of them are attractive to look at when you first meet them,

However most truly believe they are Vancouvers answer to an actual Kardashian .
So that doesn’t last long ,

After spending any more than ten minutes speaking w any of them I find most of them horribly unattractive (as people in general) and start counting down how much longer I will have to tolerate listening to them before I can get away .

I can accurately predict how every conversation will go . No matter what you say , the conversation will always go back to them talking about themselves . Literally 100% of the time , as they have about as much depth as a tea saucer .

I can’t even imagine paying to be around any of them .

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It always amazes me that men can get taken by these sites, and moreso, these women.

I get that if you have a findom fetish, this is perfect. Or some other very our there kink, you might find a match.

But, in general, I cannot see any woman who subjects herself to this marketplace being a legit provider of companionship worth even a fraction of the requested investment.

I think men look at these arrangements as a possibility of getting either a discount on volume, exclusivity, or both. Not having to make the effort to find a partner, or make the emotional investment of a balanced partnership by simply adding a financial component to cover the man's side of the equation.

"Pretty Woman" seems to be template for many of these relationship goals, but something I think is lost in this analogy it that the Roberts character is an SP, not a sugar baby, and is purely transactional in the sex business. And she was a woman with goals as to what her participation in the industry would accomplish. She was literally a mercenary. And, while the Gere character was ostensibly purchasing the services of the Roberts character as a purely financial transaction, he ends up putting far more work into the relationship than many men do with a significant other. A literal white knight that any woman would gladly engage with regardless financial exchange.

The whole "sugar baby" industry (and much of the Onlyfans culture), from my very limited exposure, seems to be on lazy young women, looking to do the absolute minimum to acheive a maximum return. Not an ignoble goal specifically, but in practice, maybe?

Finding a mistress is something the affluent can more easily attain, and affording one is a lot easier when one has no budget.

I see "sugar babies" as a way a less affluent man will try to attain what an affluent man can acquire, aspiring to the Richard Gere lifestyle on the Jason Alexander budget.

I have never heard of any man praising a sugar baby as providing the services desired for an outlay that justifies the relationship. It always seems to end up as an unwanted findom arrangement.

Are there Julia's out there that start in a sugarbaby relationship and come to realize the man is worthy of their life long devotion without a financial exchange? I guess, maybe.

Unicorns may exist, too.

Just my cynical take.

I've been in the Sugar bowl as they say for several years. Started with Seeking before they rebranded, and I've used Secret Benefits too (yep the credit system is infuriating) I've had the most success here in Winnipeg with Seeking.

My quick take. There are diamonds in the rough out there, and it can be rewarding. But the sugar world takes a lot of leg work compared to escorts.

Top tip. If she wont meet for a coffee, drink or lunch as a meet and greet without wanting $$ for it, move on to someone else. The big advantage of the Sugar world is that you both get to screen each other in person, see the real person, and see how the vibe is, before you commit to anything.

I have a million opinions about it, but pour yourself a drink, settle in, and have a look at this lengthy thread from TERB for lots of info and discussion on the Sugar subject.

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/sugar-dating-experience.807814/

Some of the issues discussed are GTA specific but most are universal to the subject.

I spent a bunch of credits a few years ago and came up empty on any meetings of any kind. And the entire time I wondered if I was messaging real humans or bots, and this was “before AI” so can’t imagine what it would be like now.

I’m happy to stay with the SPs for my needs, probably way less hassle and far better sex lol although I’m sure there are diamonds in the rough for those who have the patience and cash to find them

I've had reasonable luck finding attractive young females who are willing to pay-per-meet similar to an escort. It sometimes takes more legwork to sift through those who want payment for nothing, but once in awhile you find a gem.

LusciousLouis said:

I've had reasonable luck finding attractive young females who are willing to pay-per-meet similar to an escort. It sometimes takes more legwork to sift through those who want payment for nothing, but once in awhile you find a gem.

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So, are the women you meet less expensive or more expensive than an SP? When you average out the misfires, is the total outlay higher or lower than conventional escorts?

Are the eventual encounters are satisfying as an escort, is it a professional delivery of expected services, or more of a girl friend experience instead of a Girl Friend Experience.

I would imagine there are some high sex drive women in the sugarbowl, but from the reporting I've encountered, they generally seem more likely to avoid than engage.

Lastly, I think the success rate in this medium will vary greatly with the appearance / age of the man. While there are some SP's that find old, fat guys attractive, not sure how many Sugarbabies would. And, in my experience, most professional, well reviewed SP's will provide excellent service to any clients that are courteous and clean, regardless appearance.

rubintugger said:

So, are the women you meet less expensive or more expensive than an SP? When you average out the misfires, is the total outlay higher or lower than conventional escorts?

Are the eventual encounters are satisfying as an escort, is it a professional delivery of expected services, or more of a girl friend experience instead of a Girl Friend Experience.

I would imagine there are some high sex drive women in the sugarbowl, but from the reporting I've encountered, they generally seem more likely to avoid than engage.

Lastly, I think the success rate in this medium will vary greatly with the appearance / age of the man. While there are some SP's that find old, fat guys attractive, not sure how many Sugarbabies would. And, in my experience, most professional, well reviewed SP's will provide excellent service to any clients that are courteous and clean, regardless appearance.

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To answer your questions in order.....
1. On average it's cheaper because the girl will sometimes spend multiple hours with you for the same fee as a one hour session with an escort.
2. I try to find girls I vibe well with, so the experience leans towards GFE. The more times we spend together often seems to loosen sexual boundaries.
3. It's hit or miss. If they avoid more than engage I just move on to the next.
4. I'm told I'm attractive, and I have a fit/muscular physique. I'm sure it makes a difference as compared to the average man.

Jokerz said:

I’m actually very interested meeting a fwb on Ashley Madison anyone ever tried?

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There was a big data breach on that site a few years ago and it came out that all or nearly all the women on that site were bots.

LusciousLouis said:

I've had reasonable luck finding attractive young females who are willing to pay-per-meet similar to an escort. It sometimes takes more legwork to sift through those who want payment for nothing, but once in awhile you find a gem.

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Would you mind sharing where you’re finding these attractive young females willing to pay per meet?

I have had decent luck on Reddit, by decent I mean I’ve gotten a fair amount of replies, a few actually down to meet (most are flakey as hell), and only one that I was attracted enough to for me to proceed. So, all in all, I’d call it a ~5% success rate. Wouldn’t mind upping that number a bit.

sttrpr84 said:

Would you mind sharing where you’re finding these attractive young females willing to pay per meet?

I have had decent luck on Reddit, by decent I mean I’ve gotten a fair amount of replies, a few actually down to meet (most are flakey as hell), and only one that I was attracted enough to for me to proceed. So, all in all, I’d call it a ~5% success rate. Wouldn’t mind upping that number a bit.

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Seeking.com
Sugardaddy.com

Both apps seem pretty dry right now but I still have a couple in my rotation and a couple more potentials.

rubintugger said:

I would imagine there are some high sex drive women in the sugarbowl, but from the reporting I've encountered, they generally seem more likely to avoid than engage.

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Obviously the stereotype ideal SB is the hot coed, and the attraction is obvious, however I've found that the sweet spot for me is women in their late 20's to mid 30's. With the best experiences in that group being with single moms who really don't have the time or desire for a real relationship.

Obviously this isn't universal, and there are some women to avoid as you've said. But that's why we do a M&G.

In my experience the advantages of this group are:
They could use the extra cash, so the Sugar Daddy thing is attractive to them.
They are more mature and thus a bit more reliable and realistic about their expectations.
They are sexually experienced, know what they want, and know how to please. They are significantly sexual women or they wouldn't see sugaring as an option.
The horniest (and in some cases kinkiest) women I've ever had arrangements with. They aren't getting any on a regular basis and see this as both an income stream and a way to get laid.

They can be choose the guy they want to be with. If you're a decent human being, treat them well and know how to please a woman, you've got a good chance at some really fun sex.