Manipulation of AMP photos to appear "in spa." Thoughts?

Let me start this out by saying, "no." I do not have some huge "axe to grind" with Yifeng Massage on Kingsway. I think this is worth a discussion though.
https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...ouver_new_ukrainian_girl_from_quebec-10997646

I saw three ladies there recently, and wrote them up as reviews here on the board. Click on my name to read about it. Two good experiences, one that was not good, but I still feel some kind of compassion for "Nana," as she is obviously struggling with a job that she does not feel comfortable with... but she also needs the money... has family commitments at home, etc. It is an old story, but a true one. I'm over what happened now.

What I want to discuss is... for you tech-savvy guys... do you "buy" that some of the new images Yifeng is running in their ads now are real? Or are they some kind of AI manipulation between the backdrop of their spa rooms and a magazine model?

Let me also say... photo manipulation, fake photos, photo rip-off, trickery and outright lying are widespread... always have been... going back to the newspaper days... and always will be. It is not illegal. I get all that. I am just looking for thoughts... and maybe giving a bit of a "heads up" here.

Pic 1 - I think this is "Bobo." Positive experience. Positive review. Lots of interest in PM's and on the board for "Bobo." Great girl.

Pic 2 - "Monica." This is definitely her. The elusive Ukrainian unicorn. She is totally real. I totally saw her. Restrictive service, but sweet, charming, and super hot.

Pic 3 - "Nana." Definitely her. I had a bad experience. I understand her thought process (safety), but you can't keep mouthwash in your mouth and then put it on a guy's dick. It burns. It caused burning sensation, abnormal redness and some itchiness later. It took about two days of skin cream application to get back to normal. I'm fine now.

Pic 4 - I think this is "punk rock Diana." Mentioned in two of my reviews. That has to be her. She just has no tattoos in this pic. That kind of manipulation I can live with. Privacy concerns.

Pics 5 and 6 - These appear totally fake to me... although fairly well done. These two ladies are "10's"... or at least very solid "9's." They could work at any escort agency in any city in the world at near premium prices. Now... "Monica" is real... and she is way up on the upper end of the looks scale... but these two photos just don't look right. It is a good presentation at first, but the more you look at it, the more it looks like they are "cut" out of a magazine and dropped into Yifeng Spa.

Also, look at the shadow by "Sunglasses lady's" butt. I have taken more than enough low-light, red (or blue, purple) ambient light photos with sex workers to know... there is no way the shadows would fall like that. That would require a VERY strong source of light coming from the doorway to the massage room to cut through all the red ambient light like that... and yet the model herself is not washed out by strong white light coming from a flash.

The other one is harder to point to anything like that... but c'mon guys... they are professional sportswear models. Thoughts?

As a point of comparison... look at the clumsier approach of Sun City Spa on First Ave.
https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe..._shower_massage_only_one_in_vancouver-7326846

Pics 7 and 8 - Appear to be real massage attendants in their lobby.

Pics 9 and 10 - Uhhh... yah. No.

I know some of you guys are digital detectives and wizards, so let me know what you think.

I get that they are trying to make a buck... but I have had several people contact me about the Yifeng stuff... wanting to believe the dream.

nrctain said:

I had the same suspicion. If true, its crazy that they would go through this much effort instead of just updating the ad with who works there every day, for fucks sake

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I totally agree with this... and not just for Yifeng... not just for the AMP industry... but for the agencies... the independents.... everyone... just show us whatcha got!

Shops and agencies.... you might be surprised! Guys are looking for a lot of different things.

I would be way more interested in someone that looks "obviously real," than someone that looks like an Instagram model where... it could be true... but generally is not.

Even with the reputable agencies... the girls almost never really look like their pics... sometimes... but so many times.... not even close.

That's why... even though I am not really a client of his in recent years... I totally give props to "The Asian Fever Guy"... as I have done many times. He has the exact right idea. Just show them what we have on offer... for real... and let the customers make up their own minds. I think that is "business gold." Have you noticed that he doesn't even have to run leolist ads? Who else has that freedom? Rina Mood? Some of the other real... reputable ladies that use real images? His honesty becomes his strength. Why this approach is so rare? I don't get it.

Story time: In the Fall of '24 I went and saw a big-boobie Korean girl in a Burnaby condo tower, booked by one of the big Chinese agencies. Her photos made her look like a total JAV big-boobie girl... because the photos were just ripped off from some such person. I suspected this... but I wanted a big boobie Asian experience at that point, so I went for it.

When I went to see her... just pure awesome. Awesome connection... doorway-to-doorway... she made a point of telling me half-way through, "I really like you," and proceed to just passionately kiss the fuck out of me, and did EVERYTHING possible to make sure I was totally satisfied and had an awesome session. And yah... she was "big body," had tummy padding... big hips... wasn't a JAV/K-Girl model by any means, but she was awesome. She could fuck like a champ, professional level massage, trained hand massage, one of the best attitudes I have ever come across.

I took a chance on her... on what were almost certainly fake pics.... but I would have (in hindsight) been more likely to see her if there were real pics... showing the reality of her body... if they just described her like that.... "Awesome, caring, compassionate, big-boobie, big-body, big-hips GFE K-girl with professional level massage. Devoted and attentive to all your needs." I'm sold!

Maybe that is just me though. Maybe the market wants to believe that $1000/hr. JAV stars are showing up in Burnaby at $280/hr.

The other part of this story is that... on a Chinese language forum... guys were laughing about her and calling her a "landmine," that one of them took for the team. The big issue being that she had a bit of belly fat... like basically all adult women and men who aren't actively on extremely strict diet and exercise routines for an extended period of time.

I guess that is the market. That is who these fake ads are targeted at... young guys that want to believe the JAV/K-pop dream, not the middle-aged guys like me that have a knack for getting the best out of these situations (usually... I really tried "Nana" ).

My Point: Running the fake pics is not really an advantage, it is a negative on both sides: She becomes a "landmine" to the young guys that expect a stick-thin "E" cup model; whereas the guys like me probably gloss over her... as the pics are just ripped off from some JAV star from the 2000's. I just took a chance, as I needed that Asian Big-boobie fix!

I have also brought up the case of "Jass" at Rainbow and Great Pharaoh a few times. People FREAKING LOVE "Jass." Her big body and her massive boobs. Colombian "Sophia" at Rainbow is another one... big body... big boobs. Guys LOVE HER. You have to book ahead. There is almost no drop-in availability for her.

I have had this conversation with the Mansion/Coco/Rainbow Boss a few times.... I was telling her, 'Guys are not all looking for the same thing." And she was telling me, "You're right. That is why we run those pics."

Mansion Boss still runs "representative" pics a lot of the time, as not every lady will agree to real pics... sometimes there isn't time to do photo shoots... and other reasons. But I always go back to... "this is the Internet era folks... we are 30 years into it now. That is how EVERYTHING is bought and sold: by researching it on the Internet ahead of time. Show us whatcha' got!"

There is so much business to be done with real pics of real looking girls. So much money to be made. I hope more of the industry can get off of this Playboy/Instagram/JAV bullshit train. It just kills business after awhile. It gets to the point where there is really no reason to look at the pics. There are a lot of suckers out there... but there are TONS of us out here that know what we are looking for, and are wiling to put in some leg-work to research things! End of rant!