$350 the new rate or WTF?

[wungut]

i can't remember the last time i pooned.. but i've never spent over $160 on a sp.. when i get started up, i can't control myself .. i much rather poon 3 times a week then once a week..if i had to put a cap, then it would probably be $200 for an hour session.. looks gotta be atleast close to Angela from Toms, and atleast A8 and S8... i can totally understand why some sp's charge so much, its cause they don't want any joe blow to show up.. if a pooner can afford $300 per session, he should be making some good ass Doe and is probably a decent client who won't cause them trouble..

i myself is making decent money, but much rather go for quantiy over quality..
i'm not saying the girls who charge $300plus are any better then the girls who charge $140.. but i wouldn't know.. at the end of the day, its all about blowing your load..

one thing i would like to ask the sps to consider is offer half an hour session, i would love to have a session with the hot caucasion lady, but some of them charge $300 an hour 2 hour minimum... thats bull.. if you're hot, i'll probably wanna blow within 15minutes of seeing you. lol. then what am i gonna do with the rest of the time?? talk??? LOL... ever heard the expression, " talk is cheap" but i guess it's not free. .. if i wanted to talk.. i would stay home and fuck the girl friend..

 

[littlejimbigher]

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If you think about a lady who has been in this business for some time, she will have come across many individuals who would pay her more than her published rates.
. There will always be people who buy BMW's
G.A.

Ask some BMW dealers how many people come in willing to pay more than list price.

 

[wungut]

Ask some BMW dealers how many people come in willing to pay more than list price.

LOL.... tears.. good one..

 

[Inamorato]

at the end of the day, its all about blowing your load..

For some guys that is "what it's all about"
But for others, it's about an erotic, intimate encounter. Most of the ladies who charge 300+ are very good at what they do and understand how to provide a complete sensual experience.
Different stokes I guess...you just have to decide for yourself whether you want cheeseburgers every night, or a great steak once in a while.
Those who are sexually enlightened find the additional service well worth the extra cost, and those who want to "blow a load" have plenty of low cost options for that too.

 

[Jodie]

I have noticed in this thread, not one of the $300.00 or more SP have had any comments. (As to the rate)

Just my 3 cents....

Okay, here's my comment:

I don't know why people continue to bitch about rates. This silly topic rears its head on a very regular basis, and the same arguments get raised time and time again. We will never come to a consensus on it, so let's move on.

One of my favourite sayings about complaining, "If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it."

If you don't like the rates, don't pay them. Go form that "pooners union" or "$200 club" or whatever it is that some of you conspire to form, and boycott the heck out of all of us $350+ SP's. Maybe in your massive alliance you will create enough of an upset in the supply and demand chain to force us all to lower our rates and compete with the Asian micros and MPs. You could have a PERBLand full of $160/hr SPs. Wouldn't that be grand? Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right?



Go get 'em tiger!

 

[Aeiyah]

I don't know why people continue to bitch about rates. This silly topic rears its head on a very regular basis, and the same arguments get raised time and time again. We will never come to a consensus on it, so let's move on.

One of my favourite sayings about complaining, "If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change the way you think about it."

If you don't like the rates, don't pay them. Go form that "pooners union" or "$200 club" or whatever it is that some of you conspire to form, and boycott the heck out of all of us $350+ SP's. Maybe in your massive alliance you will create enough of an upset in the supply and demand chain to force us all to lower our rates and compete with the Asian micros and MPs. You could have a PERBLand full of $160/hr SPs. Wouldn't that be grand? Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right?

Can you do something about the all the annoying people handing out those free newspapers at the Skytrain stations? I certainly don't need 10 different people trying to hand me a copy of a newspaper I don't want to read.

 

[FortunateOne]

Okay, economics.

Premise: The supply of female sps is high, therefore prices should go down.

Well, sorry but the supply of non-asian sps is not high in Vancouver. There is a high number of men who have no interest in non-English speaking sps or who are really only attracted to blondes (strange but true. A blonde-lover, of which there are many, has zero interest in going to a micro).

And the "supply" of individual sps who will be available to you over a long term is much lower. Most non-asians are available to you as ATFs for more than a few months or a year.

Plus, the supply of mature (40-ish) sps is even lower. And their actual market goes beyond mature clients. Name one 20-something guy that has not had one fantasy of hooking up with an older woman and I'll show you a gay guy.

Therefore, simple economic theory says that non-asian sps can charge more than asian ones, and mature non-asian sps can charge as much as younger non-asian sps. This fantasy of forcing more competitive pricing can't apply to all sps as they are only "competing" within their particular category and that category has quite a small range.

 

[Inamorato]

The reality is there are a lot cheeseburgers on the market for 300+.

Don't get me wrong...I have had a couple of experiences in that 300+ range and they were my best pooning experiences but your generalization is inaccurate and likely reflects your bias since you provide services to the female pooning community.

You're right, and thats why I said "most" ladies in the 300+ range...
I know a lot of girls new to the business who assume 300 is the going rate so thats what they want to charge, but for someone who uses a site like this it is easy to sort out the reputable SPs from the wanna-be's. I suspect most pooners who are going to spend the premium $ will do their research beforehand and know what they're getting.
And, the girl who charge the premium $ but provide sub-par service will not be charging top dollar for long.

 

[Katlyn]

Do I want to see 5 or 6 or 7 clients a day like the girls who charge less? No thank you. I love sex, and it shows, but only because I'm not giving it away like a machine day in and day out.

Bingo

This fantasy of forcing more competitive pricing can't apply to all sps as they are only "competing" within their particular category and that category has quite a small range.

...But for others, it's about an erotic, intimate encounter. Most of the ladies who charge 300+ are very good at what they do and understand how to provide a complete sensual experience...Those who are sexually enlightened find the additional service well worth the extra cost, and those who want to "blow a load" have plenty of low cost options for that too.

Exactly as they both said...I have no desire to see clients that just want to see a Brunette, that's why I'm not just a number at an agency. My market is small but there are very few SPs with my body type and attitude and that is the great thing about being an indy: for the most part clients book with us because of who we are, not because of a specific set of measurements and hair colour.

Sure indys charge more and there are a number of reasons for this. For one, we serve a different market than the AMPs and our clients prefer to pay more. I hear a lot of girls say they raised their prices because they were too busy and then they got MORE bookings. Plus our costs are more as they are not shared with anyone (advertising, location, travel, etc) and most of us prefer quality over quantity when it comes to bookings PLUS a lot of us have other jobs and only work a couple times a week. I like the clients my prices attract, I am as busy as I want to be and I am able to see gentlemen whom I genuinely enjoy spending time with.

Why do you guys keep bringing this topic up? Really a mod should just start merging all the threads into one big thread about rates.

 

[trackstar]

As a die hard Canadian I am part of the, "I don't like it but am way too fucking lazy to do a damned thing about it" club. On the agenda is rising taxes, gas prices, rising crime levels and "Stuff". First meeting to be announced sometime in the future, or not, or, whatever.

 

[wungut]

Those who are sexually enlightened find the additional service well worth the extra cost, and those who want to "blow a load" have plenty of low cost options for that too.

i totally understand what you're saying.. but i won't say "cheeze burger" but more of a beef dip.. lol..

ofcourse pooners want an erotic encouter, or else they would stay home and wack off to some good old fashion internet porn..

 

[wilde]

I guess the point of this thread was lost on some but overall at least it didn't turn too ugly. It is from a pooner's POV that it is getting harder and harder to justify spending the going rate to see one of those SPs who is in that price range and beyond. And at those prices, there is much better use for your money. I remember only a couple of years ago, that rate was 200 to 250. And as prices creep up so does pooner's remorse (that sinking and empty feeling after a session even if the session was good).

I'll bet that most of the pooners here are not just about getting off. Cos if that was true, you'll just be wanking in front of your computer instead.

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[Babylon]

That's because no matter what we say, it won't change anyone's shopping habits. There is something out there for everyone and we all have our mind set on what we want and how much we're willing to spend. This subject has been done to death, hasn't it?

The fact is, for me, that I refuse to give up all the things I've given up to do this work without excellent compensation. It just would make absolutely no sense to not be asking for what I'm worth. I'm very good at what I do, my clients are happy to see me at my current rate. My average is 75% repeat business. I don't need to up my rate, nor do I don't want to lower my rate so I can get more clients.

Do I want to see 5 or 6 or 7 clients a day like the girls who charge less? No thank you. I love sex, and it shows, but only because I'm not giving it away like a machine day in and day out.

xoxo
Nina

Amen to that!

 

[Katlyn]

I guess the point of this thread was lost on some but overall at least it didn't turn too ugly. It is from a pooner's POV ...

Yep and that is exactly why none of the SPs replied until we were called out, this thread wasn't meant for us.

 

[FortunateOne]

And as prices creep up so does pooner's remorse (that sinking and empty feeling after a session even if the session was good).

I think this is true of many things we spend money on: a fancy latte instead of buying a pound of coffee, eating out instead of buying groceries (yes, all my examples are food related, dammit lol)

When something is a "consumable luxury" there really isn't anything in hand to show for it, and this can lead to a feeling of "gee, I could have had a V8!"

I guess the key is to live in the moment and try to get as much experientially out of the encounter as possible, and not make it about the best bang for the buck.

Side note: everyone's expenses have skyrocketed these past couple of years (advertising, fuel, grocery (bread I used to pay 99cents for is now $2.00, and so on). It is inevitable that sps rates are going to have to go up.

 

[trackstar]

I think this is true of many things we spend money on: a fancy latte instead of buying a pound of coffee, eating out instead of buying groceries (yes, all my examples are food related, dammit lol)

When something is a "consumable luxury" there really isn't anything in hand to show for it, and this can lead to a feeling of "gee, I could have had a V8!"

I guess the key is to live in the moment and try to get as much experientially out of the encounter as possible, and not make it about the best bang for the buck.

Side note: everyone's expenses have skyrocketed these past couple of years (advertising, fuel, grocery (bread I used to pay 99cents for is now $2.00, and so on). It is inevitable that sps rates are going to have to go up.

You have to stop posting before dinner time dude

 

[Rooster]

Price Hikes

While SP's are free enough to explore what the market will bear, I would say that unless service quality goes up with the price or the menu expands then higher prices will erode a client base for a SP. Higher prices should mean higher expectations for the hobbyist. Perhaps this is a method of communicating that a SP has too much business and wants to deter further interest. We are talking about services that are in the luxury item category here and beyond a certain point it is just not worth the dough. (OK mayber it is) I do agree that there is good value around at lower prices and if there isn't well my right hand has other skills than just for reaching into a pocket for 350-dollars.

 

[wilde]

Perhaps this is a method of communicating that a SP has too much business and wants to deter further interest.

That, my friend is what happens most of the time. And when the phone stops ringing off the hook, "specials" are held as opposed to just admitting the donation was set too high.

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[JohnnyBlue]

The girls I see are $300 plus. I prefer seeing beautiful, smart, and classy ladies. But thats just my type. I also like a women that doesn't sell herself for so cheap, I'm just not attracted to cheap women.

 

[AngelSkye]

Each of us girls market towards different types of clientele. And just because you cannot afford certain girls doesn't mean that they are not worth what they're charging. I myself am retiring so I didn't bother to raise my rates anymore, like I was going to with Nikki-Amore. But I know I have built an excellent business and provide service that is defiantly worth more then what I am already charging. Its our bodies, and I hate when people put down girls for what there charging. Not all of us want to service 7-10 clients a day for 250 etc. But rather have a respectful high class clientele that we see a few a day.

Anyways that was just my opinion on the matter.