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jgg

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Ontario is where all the seats are.

A westerner will be the next PM. Carney was born in NWT and the family later moved to Edmonton.
Nature versus Nurture. He is the Eastern elite.
 

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Nature versus Nurture. He is the Eastern elite.
Poilievre lives rent-free in a 32 room mansion and has never held a job outside of being an Ottawa area MP. What do you call a lifetime Eastern politician? A man of the people?
 
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jgg

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Poilievre lives rent-free in a 32 room mansion and has never held a job outside of being an Ottawa area MP. What do you call a lifetime Eastern politician? A man of the people?
I have never claimed to be a Poilievre fan. I may even feel he is more contemptible for being a career politician and has only ever signed the back of a cheque and never the front of one.
 
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I have lived across the country; BC, Yukon, NWT, Manitoba & Ontario. Most Canadians are a decent lot. It happens that the center of population density is in the East. I don't see any value in holding resentment against those in Ontario or Quebec.
 

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I have lived across the country; BC, Yukon, NWT, Manitoba & Ontario. Most Canadians are a decent lot. It happens that the center of population density is in the East. I don't see any value in holding resentment against those in Ontario or Quebec.
I never thought much about eastern provinces till I rode my bike there and spent some time riding around all the Great Lakes even on the US side. It was a great experience, the Welland canal and locks, loved the Niagara area and had a pretty wild time partying in Toronto, great outdoor beer gardens with Mariachi bands. I like how they show the maple leaf flags there much like the Americans across the river, it’s a proud part of Canada. Sudbury was a bit of a disappointment rode up there just to see the giant nickel and Don Cherrys sports bar was in an old car dealership, that place sucked. Sault st Marie was interesting, the bush plane museum, the steel mills, lake frieghters. Want to see the East Coast sometime, we are so lucky to have such a great country, Trumps Stupid shit may just do the trick for us to rise up and stick together, we sure need to, feel sick thinking we could be part of the nightmare down south!🤮
 

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I travelled through the Maritimes a few years ago, had a real good time. Drove the Cabot trail on Cape Breton, visited Fort Loiusberg, had a lobster dinner in Baddeck. Went to PEI across the Confederation bridge, beautiful place. Had a beer on the dock at Lunenberg, went to Peggy’s Cove but was so foggy couldn’t see anything. Went to the Maritime Museum in Halifax and Pier 21 Immigration Museum. Went to the bay of Fundy and walked out on it when the tide was out is like a big red beach. Went to the magnetic hill in Moncton and had a beaver tail. Wonderful place to visit and the people are great. Would recommend everyone visit if they get the chance.
 

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It’s a long drive from Winnipeg to Sudbury eh?
Gas up whenever you can!
 

masterpoonhunter

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So I see Petulant Pierre on the news making all kinds of claims about throwing fentanyl dealers in jail for life. And as much as I agree, how? The fucked up justice system won't allow that. I mean the bail and catch and release system puts these cunts back on the street hours after the police do their jobs. See its this kind of political hoo haw that needs an immediate counter statement to put that kind of BS back where it came from.
 
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There is no need to throw the drug dealers in jail. Just let the pharmaceutical/drug companies take over the business like we did a hundred years ago with alcohol. The dangerous drug labs and dealers will be out of business in a few months. Way cheaper than court time and keeping them in prison.
 

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There was an out of place thread talking about BC forming its own country. They weren't thinking big enough. How about Alaska, BC, Washington, Oregon, California and Baja Mexico. With Canada's gun laws. Maybe call it Cascadia.
 
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So I see Petulant Pierre on the news making all kinds of claims about throwing fentanyl dealers in jail for life. And as much as I agree, how? The fucked up justice system won't allow that. I mean the bail and catch and release system puts these cunts back on the street hours after the police do their jobs. See its this kind of political hoo haw that needs an immediate counter statement to put that kind of BS back where it came from.


Frankly, Pierre looked like he was on something today. Maybe pills. Maybe booze. To deal with crashing poll numbers.

The bottle brings sleep. But not good sleep


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The Commonwealth came to the aid of Great Britain in the face of the Kaiser and Hitler. The commonwealth may need to come to the aid of Canada in the face of a new madman.

Absolutely ! They seem to forget who was there for them when they had nobody else. We did what was right because it was right, no profitable inducements needed. The PM of Canada needs to get over there and remind them of that.

Plus the UK needs to grow a new pair of balls - sadly, Thatcher put their previous right testicle in a jar on Reagan's desk, and then Tony Blair put the left one on the desk of "Dubya" Bush. The British political class has yet to recover.
 
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masterpoonhunter

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Absolutely ! They seem to forget who was there for them when they had nobody else. We did what was right because it was right, no profitable inducements needed. The PM of Canada needs to get over there and remind them of that.

Plus the UK needs to grow a new pair of balls - sadly, Thatcher put their previous right testicle in a jar on Reagan's desk, and then Tony Blair put the left one on the desk of "Dubya" Bush. The British political class has yet to recover.
Haha,
Nicely put, maybe the best moniker yet for current politics for Canada and the UK.
 
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rlock

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Trudeau would of done ok, if he just kept the status-quo. Instead he went off on his election promises. He basically spent too much money on social systems and the Aboriginals, which is why he only got a minority in the 2nd election. He fucked over the economy too. Covid came along and spent a ton more of cash he didnt' have.
It goes to show that fed government didn't have enough stores in house to deal with the length of the Covid, until vaccines came out. Does the fed government have big warehouses now full of masks, bandages, respirators (to help patients breathe). The answer is no.. Whatever stocks they had have diminished, and probably due to budget cuts have not been replaced. Also the fed government likes to keep its inventory down, due to heating warehouses in the winter....

As to the BC separation thread, here is a few facts:
1. An economy of 40 million people does better than an economy of 3 million.
2. Trade with Asian countries is long distance, so big container ships will be needed, would need to use the same policy US uses (foreign ships can only port in once and then return to another country).
3. Although BC is rich in minerals, still would have to import oil/gas. Thats a minus on the books.
4. Anything from the rest of Canada would become more expensive.
5. BC doesn't have enough agriculture to support feeding everyone. The grain basket is on the prairies. Another minus.
6. Having a small economy next to the 2nd top world economy would be worse than what Canada has now.

Well, as much a tale of opposition failure as government failure.
Literally anyone could win if they just stuck to things like fighting crime, dealing with climate change realistically, and making Canadian industry strong instead of betting all our chips on trading just raw materials to the unbtrustworthy superpower next door.
I definitely blame this federal government for a number of broken promises (like electoral reform) or bungling good ideas with confusing or undisciplined applications (carbon tax), and then there are the scandals which come out of the blue simply caused by their own lack of judgement (SNC-Lavalin/JWR firing), or just the arrogance to fly off on some tangential cause-du-jour without checking if the public even agrees first (hard drug decrim never had popular support).

However, when the alternative to these guys are too busy acting like psychotic clowns flipping out over conspiracies/problems which do not actually exist while deliberately denying/ignoring real problems which do actual harm, and along the way think that acting like the most deceitful, creepy, dog-whistling militant assholes that they possibly can, how is that going to make Canada better? They seem to only want to attack Canada, declare it broken, then decay its identity and break it up, so it can be flushed down into the US sewer.

They public never asked them to follow the absolutely psychotic politics of our neighbour like some sort of unholy gospel - they chose to. Then time and time again, they get rejected and get absurdly pissed off that Canadian voters refuse to go along with it. Instead of changing what sort of opposition they are, making their values and policies genuinely Canadian, they just double down on being bitter dickwads and pushing crazy conspiracy theories that are ghost-written for them by the US right.

The CPC might have turned it around under O'Toole, but the rest of them are so deep into the stars-and-stripes gospel of craziness that they ousted him as leader just for suggesting it was time to stop acting like assholes in the name of political tactics. That just got him accused of not being a "real" conseravtive, because why keep a guy with military experience and principles when you can elevate a creepy professional troll instead? They failed to notice that what crippled them in 2019 and 2021 was the party's reputation as being just a collection of demented America-wannabes. All the Cons actually had to do to rise higher was stand back and watch the Trudeau PMO manage to finally shoot the last of its own toes off. Instead they unleashed a huge onslaught of foreign-funded network of bots, fake news, and phony protest convoys.

So are the Cons leading in the polls because they and their leader are actually popular? Nope, more like they are the Default Opposition Party, currently un-losing a competition to see who is actually the most unpopular.

It's like watching a horse race between a red horse that goes lame in one more leg every time it rounds a corner, an orange horse that whinnies and prances around but has no idea how to win the race, and then a blue horse that has lost its mind due to rabies and needs to be put down no matter how fast it can run. Well, maybe they all need to go to the glue factory, but this is what the political party system stuck us with. Canada is not alone; the whole world is seeing democratic principles get corroded away by dirty political tactics.




As for BC separatism, it's a tdeeply stupid idea. 40 million is more powerful than 5 million, and by ourselves there is nothing to stop us being subjugated or impoverished, and all our wealth stolen away for someone else's benefit. Already bad enough that Ottawa never considers BC when it asks what "the west" wants, only Alberta; any "western Canada" concept seems to be an invention of Albertans who think BC should be taking orders from them instead. (And only in that context should BC be standing alone.) BC was never less than Alberta, nor colonized from it - we were a stand-alone colony from the outset, then built our economy on trade and skill in dealing with the wider world; our main port outstrips the next 5 ports in Canada combined, probably the top strategic asset Canada has. We need the rest of Canada to actually put in some effort in defending BC, not entertain foolish notions that all end with BC giving its power away to the greedy and ungrateful power next door.

How is Panama doing in terms of leverage right now Under attack for no reason except one asshole's greedy eye falling upon it? It has none; indeed it already hosts a military base of its unexpected enemy. That warning also goes for Quebec separatism actually, because if they did separate from Canada, a "canal zone" to be controlled is all Washington would consider them; US bases would be on Quebec soil, US policies ruling Quebec governments, and there would be zero protection for their language or culture. The only people who ever respected Quebec and its culture were other Canadians. (Obviously excluding that segment of eternally prejudiced & resentful WASP cranks like Don Cherry who see francophone Canada as some kind of devilish impurity.)
 

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Poilievre lives rent-free in a 32 room mansion and has never held a job outside of being an Ottawa area MP. What do you call a lifetime Eastern politician? A man of the people?
Polly is not really a franco-Ontarian from Ottawa - he is actually from Calgary, and just moved to Ottawa to be a full-time professional troll for the parties of Stockwell Day and Stephen Harper.
 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-trump-1.7451944

Israel's defence minister orders army to prepare for Gaza residents' departure
Israel Katz cites Canada as one of many countries that could take Palestinians

Defence Minister Israel Katz hailed Trump's announcement that the United States would aim to take control of Gaza, resettle the more than two million Palestinians living there and transform the territory into the "Riviera of the Middle East."

There are countries like Canada, which has a structured immigration program, that have previously expressed a willingness to accept Gaza residents."
 

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-gaza-trump-1.7451944

Israel's defence minister orders army to prepare for Gaza residents' departure
Israel Katz cites Canada as one of many countries that could take Palestinians

Defence Minister Israel Katz hailed Trump's announcement that the United States would aim to take control of Gaza, resettle the more than two million Palestinians living there and transform the territory into the "Riviera of the Middle East."

There are countries like Canada, which has a structured immigration program, that have previously expressed a willingness to accept Gaza residents."
Fuck that’s all we need, the crazy protests we’ve already experienced is a drop in the bucket compared to what could come with a large influx of more. Why won’t the Muslim countries of the Middle East not accept any of them, it’s been like that for decades, its problems they do not want.
 
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Fuck that’s all we need, the crazy protests we’ve already experienced is a drop in the bucket compared to what could come with a large influx of more. Why won’t the Muslim countries of the Middle East not accept any of them, it’s been like that for decades, its problems they do not want.
80% of Gazan population are the descendants of refugees displaced when Israel was created in 1948. They will be happy to return to their home towns located in what is nowaday Israel, Why Israel won't allow them? The neighbouring muslim countries already accepted millions of those displaced by Israel and don't want to take more. They aren't liable of fixing problems caused by Israel.
It's ironic that far right folk like who support Israel because they hate muslims end up having muslims neighbours next door sent by Israel.
 
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