USA Political Discussion Thread 2025

uncleg

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These days if someone says "Did you hear what that fucking moron just said?" everyone knows precisely who they're talking about.
Not really.....I think it depends on which side of the 49th you live on.
 

westwoody

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Pump n dump worked for that fucker vivek.
Scamming cancer patients is peak maga.
 

thevalleydude

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Sorry. Have to disagree with you. Yes, Canada has problems, but we're doing very well overall. My household is single income (only mine), under 100k a year - so my kids had jobs and qualified for grants and scholarships for their schooling, they didn't rely on me. They're not having any problems with jobs or housing, and it's all their own work ethic and diligence that is supporting them, not me. So when you say "if you have children you will realize", I do, and I disagree with you.
How many kids have income in the 150k-200k range? Thats what it takes now in the main housing markets to buy a house. Its great your kids were able to get themselves ahead. This is from the RBC Website.

How much income do you need to buy a home?

The income you need to buy a home depends on several factors, including the purchase price and the interest on the mortgage. The lower the interest, the higher your borrowing capacity, and the more you’re able to afford.


The average cost for a home in Canada was around $699,000 as of May 2024, according to the Canadian Real Estate Association. A home this size would require a minimum down payment of at least $44,900, plus closing costs. To afford the remaining mortgage at a 5.14% interest rate, over 25 years with mortgage loan insurance from CMHC and no additional debt, you’d need an income of approximately $220, 224.

The medium Canadian family annual income is $98000
https://www.statista.com/statistics/467078/median-annual-family-income-in-canada-by-province/


Not everyone is as lucky as you and your kids. You guys have to stop looking at your own personal situations and consider that there happen to be millions of other people living in this country, the majority of them being less fortunate than yourselves and for whatever reason are struggling to get by.
 
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MRGREEN

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When did the US become the stupidest country on earth ? Started unwraveling post Viet Nam and Watergate, vil Rights and women's
How many kids have income in the 150k-200k range? Thats what it takes now in the main housing markets to buy a house. Its great your kids were able to get themselves ahead. This is from the RBC Website.

How much income do you need to buy a home?

The income you need to buy a home depends on several factors, including the purchase price and the interest on the mortgage. The lower the interest, the higher your borrowing capacity, and the more you’re able to afford.


The average cost for a home in Canada was around $699,000 as of May 2024, according to the Canadian Real Estate Association. A home this size would require a minimum down payment of at least $44,900, plus closing costs. To afford the remaining mortgage at a 5.14% interest rate, over 25 years with mortgage loan insurance from CMHC and no additional debt, you’d need an income of approximately $220, 224.

The medium Canadian family annual income is $98000
https://www.statista.com/statistics/467078/median-annual-family-income-in-canada-by-province/


Not everyone is as lucky as you and your kids. You guys have to stop looking at your own personal situations and consider that there happen to be millions of other people living in this country, the majority of them being less fortunate than yourselves and for whatever reason are struggling to get by.

So is it that income is too low or that speculation has pushed housing costs out of sight. At one time a house was a home not an investment. Greed has fucked up everything.
 

thevalleydude

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Remember when Kamala and Joe were concerned that on the way out that Trump may try to preemptively pardon his family members and associates and swore that they would NEVER do the same thing?

Good times.



You guys would have been absolutely furious if Trump had actually done that and been burning up this thread for months about it.

Biden lied again.....and I expect ...excuses....and/or crickets.


Preemptive pardons are basically an admission of guilt. But Milley did commit treason and Liz Cheney would have legitimately been gone after for witness tampering during the Jan 6 show trial so there is that.

And if you had been concerned about Trump officials committing crimes during his time in office the door has just been opened wide open for when he leaves office. Precedent has been set. Don't complain four years down the road if it happens.
 

Crookedmember

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I am certainly happy Joe Biden has issued preemptive pardons to Dr. Fauci and members of the January 6 committee.

Trump has promised to use the DOJ to go after his political enemies.

He has picked a MAGA lapdog for AG, and installed his defence lawyers in top DOJ positions.

Preemptive pardons are not a good thing, but necessary when a thin-skinned asshole bent on revenge is entering the White House.
 

PuntMeister

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Inauguration speech was interesting. Not much unexpected, however, I though that Trump’s internal changes came together in a clearer theme than previous rants. WoW—War on Wokeism. They refered to it common sense, but this agenda to rid the govrrnment of all the wasteful special interest crap and special program sillyness followed a deeper theme imho. I don’t see it as simply contradicting the Democrat’s agenda or poking a stick at Hoe Biden. The round-up / cleanup of government seems to resonate with a lot of working class Americans.

External direction is clearer too. No more handouts and try to claw back what they can to pay for the massive U.S. budget. I still don’t get where the whole Panama thing is headed or why it’s even on the table, unless the end game is to get some perpetual royalties for use of the canal.

We will see how things unfold.
 
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carvesg

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Today is day 1. Hostages are going free, illegals leaving, great start!!
If i were you.....I'd wait for the results before shouting Victory as I remember the worst President after trump , standing on an aircraft carrier with a fairly big banner stating " mission accomplished " ....which turned out to be so far from the truth that we still have a laugh about it
 
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jgg

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Wonder who they're going to get to rebuild all of those houses in LA, never mind harvest the food and trudge knee-deep in cow shit at the dairy farms.
When was the last you were at a dairy farm?
 

overdone

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So is it that income is too low or that speculation has pushed housing costs out of sight. At one time a house was a home not an investment. Greed has fucked up everything.
no, incompetent gov't has

along with apathy by society

bad policies

speculation is so small a part it's not worth mentioning

creating a demand that isn't natural, needed, useful, our immigration policy, moronic is the main reason

then gov't policies on taxes/building regulations

Nimby shit

gov't pushed housing costs up, taxes are the biggest cost

in Ont they're pegged at 1/3 of the cost

look at the idiotic land transfer "fees" in some provinces

people stop when you keep upping taxes

it's common sense, of which Muni politicians have the least of

who really control housing
 
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carvesg

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When was the last you were at a dairy farm?
Crookedmember being informed as he is, knows how much Wisconsin depends on illegal immigrants for the dairy farms to function. As well as many other states.

If I know....my wild guess he knows too and it's the reason he mentioned it
 
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