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masterblaster

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yeah, except... thats not how it works. sorry, buts its the expected simplistic answer. its the Trump answer.

the US is a net exporter of refined oil products. $138B in 2022.

Refined Petroleum in the United States

US oil companies take our unrefined heavy crude, refine it and sell it. and make a killing doing so.

the US produces enough crude oil for domestic consumption.

America Produces Enough Oil to Meet Its Needs, So Why Do We Import Crude?

so US GDP just takes a hit as refineries look for other sources of heavy crude to refine. the US has excess heavy crude refining capacity while the US produces mostly light crude.

and this isn't the way Canadians want it anyways. gas is expensive here because Big Oil have control of our product. so they ensure that there are limited refining possibilities here in Canada to keep gas prices high. we don't control what happens to the oil. we just sell oil leases.

52% of Canadian oil production is owned by US owners.

Report shows 70 percent of Canadian oilsands production is owned by foreign companies and shareholders

so whatever. Trump might be doing us a big favour when it comes to oil. i would love for the US companies to be forced to abandon Canadian oil and the Canadian government nationalize it like Norway.

Norway’s Oil Savings Just Hit $1 Trillion. Alberta Has $17 Billion. What Gives?

and oil is a rather specific item thats much more complex than other commodities because... US and Canadian governments don't actually control how it managed. its managed to ensure maximum profit for oil lease owners... its not managed to maximize tax revenue. in fact, we subsidize it with cold hard cash.

$18.6 billion in support of the fossil fuel and petrochemical industries in 2023

but if you think we, sitting on the second or third largest oil reserve in the world are going to perish if the US stops buying it from us then i have some swamp land in downtown Vancouver that i will sell you.

yeah, our natural resources have mostly paid for us to sit around and have a quality of life index in the top 5 globally and a median net worth above the US population. we've been dishing the US cheap goods for decades. don't want it? maybe you'll be doing us a favour. we'll get off our asses and make even more money with it or mint new trade "partners".

on another note... you don't cite ANYTHING. i guess its just the Fox News real that you consume.
Something wrong with those oil production numbers. No way the U.S. produces over 18 million barrels of oil per day. Record production of 12.9 bbl/d was reached in 2023. Forecasted to hit just over 13.2 million bbl/d in 2025.
 

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I get everything you articulated! However, I disagree about your world trade opinion. Be that as it may, many trade deals are memorized for political purposes, scratch my back, I will scratch yours, so to speak. However, if Trump keeps his promise, it will be, screw you, Americans will scratch their own back. If the stars line up, either other nations will learn to pay their way, or havoc will ensue. Think about this, are there any other countries that gave Ukraine even close to the amount American taxpayers provided? If, and I hope when, Trump cuts off Ukraine, will other countries step up to the plate and fill the void? The world, like a heroin addict, is addicted. Instead of dope, it is American money. I have been a member of this platform for a long time and rarely opened my big mouth. During that time, I have read comments, not very nice comments, about Americans and/or Trump. Based on my financial background, I knew two facts. The people that authored the comments are uneducated, or do not realize the American taxpayer subsidies their way of life. Then Biden came along and paid big bucks to buy Canadian oil, when America had its own. I assume he wanted to get votes from the climate nuts. This reinforced the thought, America needs Canada for energy. Everyone that has basic knowledge of oil markets, know that is not true. Now comes Trump with an American first attitude and the largest oil reserve in the world. All of the orange man, felon, dictator, Hitler comments were invalidated. Nobody thought he would win, but he did, in a landslide! Yes, I got tired of the Canadians whom Americans subsidize, talking shit, but because I am a business man, I like to make money. I am what is called a forward thinker. If I know something is about to occur, I want to invest before it happens. Think of an Apple IPO. Although I did buy a Rolex for my mom in Calgary today, I also strategically positioned myself to profit when the hammer hits Canada. I strongly suggest you do the same. I don’t care if I get banned. A lot of the higher end women know me. I never shop for sex at Walmart. I’m not want I consider rich, but I am comfortable, I pay people to manage my business, but I am always looking to make more money. The attached is for the nonbelievers…..30% off!
First time I ever saw some blowhard jerk post a picture of a watch he supposedly bought for his mom.
 

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Something wrong with those oil production numbers. No way the U.S. produces over 18 million barrels of oil per day. Record production of 12.9 bbl/d was reached in 2023. Forecasted to hit just over 13.2 million bbl/d in 2025.
It is difficult to type and drive, but I could not resist. Helmet head, the kid required to wear a helmet on a school bus, has spoken. You will be poor and blame others your entire life!
 

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yeah, except... thats not how it works. sorry, buts its the expected simplistic answer. its the Trump answer.

the US is a net exporter of refined oil products. $138B in 2022.

Refined Petroleum in the United States

US oil companies take our unrefined heavy crude, refine it and sell it. and make a killing doing so.

the US produces enough crude oil for domestic consumption.

America Produces Enough Oil to Meet Its Needs, So Why Do We Import Crude?

so US GDP just takes a hit as refineries look for other sources of heavy crude to refine. the US has excess heavy crude refining capacity while the US produces mostly light crude.

and this isn't the way Canadians want it anyways. gas is expensive here because Big Oil have control of our product. so they ensure that there are limited refining possibilities here in Canada to keep gas prices high. we don't control what happens to the oil. we just sell oil leases.

52% of Canadian oil production is owned by US owners.

Report shows 70 percent of Canadian oilsands production is owned by foreign companies and shareholders

so whatever. Trump might be doing us a big favour when it comes to oil. i would love for the US companies to be forced to abandon Canadian oil and the Canadian government nationalize it like Norway.

Norway’s Oil Savings Just Hit $1 Trillion. Alberta Has $17 Billion. What Gives?

and oil is a rather specific item thats much more complex than other commodities because... US and Canadian governments don't actually control how it managed. its managed to ensure maximum profit for oil lease owners... its not managed to maximize tax revenue. in fact, we subsidize it with cold hard cash.

$18.6 billion in support of the fossil fuel and petrochemical industries in 2023

but if you think we, sitting on the second or third largest oil reserve in the world are going to perish if the US stops buying it from us then i have some swamp land in downtown Vancouver that i will sell you.

yeah, our natural resources have mostly paid for us to sit around and have a quality of life index in the top 5 globally and a median net worth above the US population. we've been dishing the US cheap goods for decades. don't want it? maybe you'll be doing us a favour. we'll get off our asses and make even more money with it or mint new trade "partners".

on another note... you don't cite ANYTHING. i guess its just the Fox News real that you consume.

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Maybe mom will love you now.
It is difficult to type and drive, but I could not resist. Helmet head, the kid required to wear a helmet on a school bus, has spoken. You will be poor and blame others your entire life!
I don’t expect you know much about the oil business but anybody that thinks the U.S. produces more 18 million barrels of oil per day has shit-for-brains I’ll guarantee you that.
 

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Trans kids playing soccer and tampons in the washroom bother these guys, but they're jumping for joy because a convicted felon and rapist is in the White House.

The mind reels.


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Convicted felon....yes. Rapist.....nothing has risen to the level of rape...close, but unlike Clinton, no cigar.
 

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Convicted felon....yes. Rapist.....nothing has risen to the level of rape...close, but unlike Clinton, no cigar.
Trump’s wife Ivana, who mysteriously died falling down stairs at her place claimed trump raped her after he became enraged following a botched procedure to cover his bald spot by someone she suggested, but later recanted her story. No doubt had something to do with her divorce settlement.
 
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Weird, ABC just settled out of court after they libeled Trump by calling him a convicted Rapist.
15 million dollars.
Why would they do that?
ABC did not want to go through the discovery process that could have had embarrassing emails and discussions revealed.

It doesn't change the facts in trump's rape case . He is still civilly responsible for the rape of Mrs Carroll.
 
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Evidently, your education is in art, not economics. I don’t want to hurt Canada, I just want to stop supplementing Canada’s way of life, as I want to do with other countries. Bullying , demeaning, obviously you haven’t read what some of your countrymen have written. I hope Trudeau makes you happy. Dictator, narcissist, convicted felon, pathological liar….you forgot Hitler. You simply repeat everything Harris professed, look what happened to her. Read, learn and attempt to think outside of your indoctrination. BTW, Gentleman Jack is absolutely horrible!
There you go again trying to insult me. You know zero about me. I don't feel the need to boast about assets, achievements and resources that are frankly unprovable on a forum. Just like yours.
If you don't want to supplement Canada's way of life.. leave. We don't need you here. Canada sells resources to the USA. USA isn't supplementing our way of life.. they're buying products that would be much more expensive to source locally. It's global economics not charity. You're not refuting any of my statements about Trump you're simply ignoring them. Just like Trump. The man lies repeatedly and his adherents ignore it.

I could care less about Harris. If you read any of my posts you'd know that. I have pointed that out repeatedly. My only assertion is that Trump is a Liar. Moreso than a regular politician who tries to shape the narrative to suit their needs, Trump is a blatant liar and con man. That's my assertion. It's not indoctrination, it's based on facts. I've known he was a con man and liar for years, long before he entered politics. If you can't see that you're either blind or drinking from the orange cool-aid.

If anyone is indoctrinated here it seems to be you. How many Trump electronic trading cards did you buy? Enjoying your Trump sneakers? How is that Trump University education doing for you? Enjoying those Trump steaks? Make sure you buy your Trump bible. Try gambling at a Trump Casino... Oh wait you can't they're bankrupt. I'll bet you're excited to purchase a real piece of the suit that he got arrested in.. memorabilia from your Orange Jesus.

Can't wait for you to tell me how you would never ever fall for any of those cons... you are smart enough to know they're cons right?
 

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There you go again trying to insult me. You know zero about me. I don't feel the need to boast about assets, achievements and resources that are frankly unprovable on a forum. Just like yours.
If you don't want to supplement Canada's way of life.. leave. We don't need you here. Canada sells resources to the USA. USA isn't supplementing our way of life.. they're buying products that would be much more expensive to source locally. It's global economics not charity. You're not refuting any of my statements about Trump you're simply ignoring them. Just like Trump. The man lies repeatedly and his adherents ignore it.

I could care less about Harris. If you read any of my posts you'd know that. I have pointed that out repeatedly. My only assertion is that Trump is a Liar. Moreso than a regular politician who tries to shape the narrative to suit their needs, Trump is a blatant liar and con man. That's my assertion. It's not indoctrination, it's based on facts. I've known he was a con man and liar for years, long before he entered politics. If you can't see that you're either blind or drinking from the orange cool-aid.

If anyone is indoctrinated here it seems to be you. How many Trump electronic trading cards did you buy? Enjoying your Trump sneakers? How is that Trump University education doing for you? Enjoying those Trump steaks? Make sure you buy your Trump bible. Try gambling at a Trump Casino... Oh wait you can't they're bankrupt. I'll bet you're excited to purchase a real piece of the suit that he got arrested in.. memorabilia from your Orange Jesus.

Can't wait for you to tell me how you would never ever fall for any of those cons... you are smart enough to know they're cons right?


Everyone in the American government lies, the FBI, DOJ, NHS, Blinkin, Kirby, Austin all lied. Remember the Russia hoax, the Laptop, everything is perpetrated on a lie. Pelosi lied about J/6 and everyone lied about the border being secure. They lied about masks and lockdowns. You must think you’re the only person that can read, or maybe you selectively read. Trump is a business man, he makes money, if he can sell shoes, who cares. Oh I get it, he doesn’t look Presidential, whatever that means. Lopsided trade agreements, when the importer has the imported resource, is a handout. Allowing Ford and Dodge to manufacture vehicles and Canada export those vehicles to other countries, is a handout. Support of NATO, when other member countries do not fulfill the 2% GDP contribution, is a handout. Do you seriously believe the day after Trump announced 25% tariff on Canada, Trudeau flew to Florida to congratulate the felon? Do you actually believe after Trump bitch slapped Trudeau in front of the entire world, Trudeau smiled because Justin is just a nice guy? I was embarrassed for Canada, I think Trudeau should have just got up from the table and left. However, Trudeau is smarter than me because if he did leave, Justin knows Trump the con, the felon and dictator, has Canada by the balls. Trudeau is also smarter than you. Justin knows truth from fiction, he knows Americans supplement the Canadian economy, which is the reason he stuck his tongue inside Trumps ass. I bet that made you proud!! The Prime Minister of Canada bowing to Hitler, kissing a felons ass, mingling with a rapist. Did you ever ask yourself why Trudeau would do such a despicable thing? As you previously articulated, Canadians are so well educated and wrought with culture why in the world did Trudeau sit around? Hopefully Justin can use his Canadian education to get the taste of Trumps butt out of his mouth! We agree on one thing, the US government is screwed up. We do not agree that Trump is all the things for which he was persecuted. Every single case but one is dismissed, but that will disappear. As for the alleged sexual assault that happened in the 90’s, civil cases in America have a lower standard of proof than criminal cases and the women will never receive a cent. Actually that case should frighten every man. A woman can claim she was assaulted 30 years prior and attempt to take a guys assets. Frightening! Regardless, the next time you see Justin on TV, look closely at his mouth and remember, it kissed Trump’s ass!
 

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I agree that everyone in the government lies. The difference is that Trump lies blatantly and hasn't a modicum of restraint. That's a level of pathological deceit that it's scary for someone in power to have.

You obviously don't understand how global trade works if you think the sweetheart deals the USA has for Canadian crude is a drawback for the USA. No point in arguing with you about it, you'll need a therapist to deal with your delusions.

You 're laboring under the misconception that anyone on this forum cares about Trudeau. What he has to do to fulfill his political responsibilities is his problem and we could care less. That's his job. Trump will be president shortly, of course he's trying to mitigate Trump's tariffs. He has to try to at least get the man to abide by his own trade agreements. We know it's futile to hope that he would keep his word, but it's Trudeau's job to try.

You have a strange fascination for men sticking their tongues up other men's assess. Just saying. That sort of thing doesn't need to be added to rational discourse on politics. Keep your fantasies in the review boards where they belong.

I don't think Trump is guilty of all the things he's been accused of either. He's been called a good business man and that's obviously a lie. You just have to look at the obvious. The man is a con and cheat. He has ripped off, and is still ripping off the average American and he gloats about it. He may incidentally do something that helps you or Americans out, but the reality is that all he cares about it Trump and making money for Trump. Just the sort of guy you want as President !!

Happy Holidays everyone.
 
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