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For a largely secular forum. About 1500 years before the Christ, with a promise of somewhere to go, Moses the biblical figure led a crowd out of enslavement in Egypt and into the desert of Sinai to wander a generation before going into a “promise land” populated by Canaanites.

From Google: God’s argument for Zionism and the slaughter in Gaza today.

The Canaanites are best known from the biblical accounts that portray them as a hostile, pre-Israelite indigenous population residing in the “promised land” who were conquered by the tribes of Israel under the leadership of Joshua following their Exodus from Egypt.

Over centuries, the Canaanites were assimilated into various cultures and empires, including the Israelites, Phoenicians, and others. Today, there are no direct descendants of the Canaanites who identify as such.

…destructive sexual behavior, injustice, and harmful ritual worship (bodily mutilation), along with the widespread and abhorrent practice of child sacrifice. Canaanite culture was described as utterly corrupt, especially when it came to violence and abuse of the most vulnerable in their communities.

The Canaanite religion featured worship of the supreme deity, El, and his partner Asherah. The Canaanites also worshipped Ba'al (the god of rain and thunder), Anat (the goddess of war), and Astarte (the goddess of love and fertility).

More from Google:

DNA evidence reported in the American Journal of Human Genetics shows that the Canaanites did not just disappear. Instead, they survived and are the ancestors of the people now living in modern-day Lebanon.

The “most Canaanite” group is Saudis, followed by Bedouin B, then Bedouin A, then Palestinian, then Egyptian, then Jordanian, then Lebanese.

The researchers also determined that the Canaanites – who frequently appear in ancient sources, including the Bible – descended from a mixture of an earlier Levantine population and migrants coming from the Caucasus region or modern-day Iran.

Analysis of genetic traits found the ancient Canaanites would have looked very similar to today's Lebanese population, except perhaps a little darker in skin tone.
 

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"Religion" is the real route of all evil.
It can certainly be exploited and manipulated by evil people to serve detrimental objectives. Most people who have been exposed to the positive side of it will always behave religiously, act on faith, and carry around unprovable feel-good convictions in their heart.
 

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To me religion is not at the route of all evil but it has allowed good people to be lead to do evil things for the good ( good is highly debatable at times) of their group , tribe or people ; while being convinced by their religious leader how to justify it mentally for their own sanity .

Evil religious leaders ( includes government leaders wrapping themselves in a religious blanket ) are to be feared and the more charismatic they are the more dangerous they are .
 
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Religion brought us medical care, hospitals, schools -- reading and writing, care for the poor, food banks/kitchens, art, and good behaviour.

Ironically, religion is now against all those things.
 
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Religion brought us medical care, hospitals, schools -- reading and writing, care for the poor, food banks/kitchens, art, and good behaviour
I disagree.
Dogs care for each other and their puppies but are not religious.
Good behaviour is a major advantage for social animals from ants to African lions.
 

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Religion brought us medical care, hospitals, schools -- reading and writing, care for the poor, food banks/kitchens, art, and good behaviour.

Ironically, religion is now against all those things.
Going straight to the causation argument.
It is also possible that good people brought us these things along with religion.

IMO: Religion had a time and a place. Now Nowhere, Never!
 
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I've always been amused... Christians literally ignore pretty much everything that god himself said in the bible. All of those laws and commandments that he said were to stand forever??? Right out the door!

When Jesus said to follow god's laws and commandments even more closely than the overly legalistic Pharisees, until the end of the earth??? Right out the door!

Instead, they've decided to deify the teachings of Paul, to the exclusion of almost everything else. They just love to use the bits and pieces from the "old testament", to justify their bigotries. And they invented some sort of extra-biblical "new covenant" nonsense to justify it. Which is never even detailed to begin with.

Christianity eliminated god from the equation long, long ago. They'd even rather pray to Jesus, than god, and have come up with the dumbest bit of mental gymnastics on earth to justify it, in the holy trinity.
 

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I've always been amused... Christians literally ignore pretty much everything that god himself said in the bible. All of those laws and commandments that he said were to stand forever??? Right out the door!

When Jesus said to follow god's laws and commandments even more closely than the overly legalistic Pharisees, until the end of the earth??? Right out the door!

Instead, they've decided to deify the teachings of Paul, to the exclusion of almost everything else. They just love to use the bits and pieces from the "old testament", to justify their bigotries. And they invented some sort of extra-biblical "new covenant" nonsense to justify it. Which is never even detailed to begin with.

Christianity eliminated god from the equation long, long ago. They'd even rather pray to Jesus, than god, and have come up with the dumbest bit of mental gymnastics on earth to justify it, in the holy trinity.
This doesn't just apply to Christians.
This applies to all religions and cults.
 
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