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thevalleydude

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The mere fact that his own vp refuses to endorse him is a sign that orange turd is toast. I am an optimist. I believe Americans will do the right thing and it’s not even going to be closed.
Sure. How could anyone in their right mind vote for the orange turd! So lets make a bet on who wins the election. I will take Trump and you take Kamala....the loser faces one year in the PERB penalty box and a permanent ban if they create a new handle and try to sneak back. Hey its not even going to be close but I like to gamble. The ban begins the moment the election is declared official.

In your own words the Orange Turd is toast!! How could you possibly lose?
Forum Mod has given the go ahead and will enforce it. Don't be a chicken shit. Back up your opinion and you never know....there is also still an opportunity for an October surprise to help you out even more. Odds are that I will be sadly on the sidelines in the new year.:cry:

I decided on you because this is the only thread that you ever post in while many others here contribute information on the hobby so its no loss to the board if you actually lose.
 

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Sure. How could anyone in their right mind vote for the orange turd! So lets make a bet on who wins the election. I will take Trump and you take Kamala....the loser faces one year in the PERB penalty box and a permanent ban if they create a new handle and try to sneak back. Hey its not even going to be close but I like to gamble. The ban begins the moment the election is declared official.

In your own words the Orange Turd is toast!! How could you possibly lose?
Forum Mod has given the go ahead and will enforce it. Don't be a chicken shit. Back up your opinion and you never know....there is also still an opportunity for an October surprise to help you out even more. Odds are that I will be sadly on the sidelines in the new year.:cry:

I decided on you because this is the only thread that you ever post in while many others here contribute information on the hobby so its no loss to the board if you actually lose.
Sure! Deal!
 

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Sure. How could anyone in their right mind vote for the orange turd! So lets make a bet on who wins the election. I will take Trump and you take Kamala....the loser faces one year in the PERB penalty box and a permanent ban if they create a new handle and try to sneak back. Hey its not even going to be close but I like to gamble. The ban begins the moment the election is declared official.

In your own words the Orange Turd is toast!! How could you possibly lose?
Forum Mod has given the go ahead and will enforce it. Don't be a chicken shit. Back up your opinion and you never know....there is also still an opportunity for an October surprise to help you out even more. Odds are that I will be sadly on the sidelines in the new year.:cry:

I decided on you because this is the only thread that you ever post in while many others here contribute information on the hobby so its no loss to the board if you actually lose.
Why so extreme? A whole year ban over an American election? Thats just silly lol
 
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Forum Mod note its agreed. Bets on!
Beside this bet, can you pls share and help me understand why you still support orange turd? From his 6 bankruptcies, trump university, bla bla bla to his being adjudicated sexually assaulting a woman, stealing classified top secret documents, convicted felon for committing fraud, found guilty of business fraud in nyc, inciting an insurrection and summoning a mob to hang his VP, wants to be a dictator in day one, flip flopping on real issues, with no plans except concept of a plan, the truck load of lies and make up stories, Hannibal Lecter, sharks and electric boat.. they’re eating the dogs and pets, the list goes on. Too long for me to mention it here all over again. In spite of all these, you still support this a hole? Help me out here. I seriously want to understand why you and like so many other people are still supporting him. Why? What’s with this man? Tell us what has this man do to deserve your support.
 

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Why so extreme? A whole year ban over an American election? Thats just silly lol
Its fine. It's starting to get one sided when our friends from the other side aren't chiming in anymore. Besides if I am wrong, I'll be embarrassed and deserving to be penalized. But if I am right, I'll be able to prove one thing. That I am a normal human being.
 

thevalleydude

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Beside this bet, can you pls share and help me understand why you still support orange turd? From his 6 bankruptcies, trump university, bla bla bla to his being adjudicated sexually assaulting a woman, stealing classified top secret documents, convicted felon for committing fraud, found guilty of business fraud in nyc, inciting an insurrection and summoning a mob to hang his VP, wants to be a dictator in day one, flip flopping on real issues, with no plans except concept of a plan, the truck load of lies and make up stories, Hannibal Lecter, sharks and electric boat.. they’re eating the dogs and pets, the list goes on. Too long for me to mention it here all over again. In spite of all these, you still support this a hole? Help me out here. I seriously want to understand why you and like so many other people are still supporting him. Why? What’s with this man? Tell us what has this man do to deserve your support.
Im just making a bet on who I believe will win this race based on polling information.
Trump leads on the two most important issues to Americans right now, the economy and immigration.
Polling on mainstream media outlets show that increasingly Harris is losing the support of traditional Democrat voting bases....black males, hispanics, union members and young voters 18-35 and undecided voters are switching to him because Kamala Harris is still an enigma to many American voters due to the lack of a proper primary in which her positions would have been made clear to voters.
Neither Democrats nor Republicans are going to get the Muslim vote which is very important in Michigan as it appears they will be switching to third party and Jill Stein who has had successful rallies held in Dearborn. which will put that state up for play.
I think she made a bad mistake in her choice of VP in choosing a blemished Walz instead of Shapiro which will in the end cost her Pennsylvania.
Trump has overperformed the polls in both Presidential elections he has run on and right now the difference is a razors edge instead of several percentage points...trailing by 9% at this point in 2016 and winning and by 5% in 2020 but losing by probably around 300000 votes spread over two or three swing states .

Im not basing my decision on who to bet based on emotion, its based on information. A lot can happen in 33 days but I think its worth risking Perbatory for a year. I might be wrong and that's life. That's all I have to say.

Any attempt at rational discussion ends up like this.
Good luck. I enjoy a fun bet.
 

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Im just making a bet on who I believe will win this race based on polling information.
Trump leads on the two most important issues to Americans right now, the economy and immigration.
Even this is funny, considering that Trump had the worst economic record of any president since the great depression, and the main reason his immigration talk has been in the news is because of the ridiculously dumb lies he's been telling about it.

I still don't see how anyone can think this guy would beat good choice for much of anything.
 

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Former Colorado county clerk Tina Peters sentenced to 9 years for voting data scheme

yikes.

god only knows how many years Trump will get.

Jack Smith lays out his case against Trump in vivid detail

in other news, is it just me that feels that Trump is in that "i'll fuckin say anything to get elected" desperation mode?

Trump vows to veto any federal abortion ban — after previously refusing to commit

this tells me that the quants have let him know that he's in trouble.
The indictment is online. I read about half so far.
It’s very thorough and has a lot of documentation.
Trump’s lawyers will have a lot of work to beat it.
 

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Even this is funny, considering that Trump had the worst economic record of any president since the great depression, and the main reason his immigration talk has been in the news is because of the ridiculously dumb lies he's been telling about it.

I still don't see how anyone can think this guy would beat good choice for much of anything.
I would agree that none of this makes sense. Trump has not done anything to deserve the support. But his billionaire supporters have the money to produce misleading ads, even temporarily manipulate the markets, and support ways to suppress the vote. And you overestimate the intelligence, morality and humanity of the American voter (and most voters around the world). They have been assaulted with all the bullshit from the Internet, religious leaders, their business elite, etc. They feel powerless over their lives and so feel the need to be cruel and viscous. It is an ugly picture that I paint but I believe that it is a true one.

But whether most Canadians like it or not, America could very likely vote in a narcissist, crazy old man heading towards dementia to become their dictator. I look at the polls and that Harris is barely up 2% over Trump nationwide is disappointing. It is the electoral college (heavily slanted towards the Republicans, and worked on them for the last 30 years) that may win Trump the election. He may lose the majority vote and still become the dictator. If he becomes the dictator, public policy becomes chaotic and foreign policy will be under the control of Putin. If Trump wins, Putin will have won his greatest victory. And the rest of the world loses...................
 

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I would agree that none of this makes sense. Trump has not done anything to deserve the support. But his billionaire supporters have the money to produce misleading ads, even temporarily manipulate the markets, and support ways to suppress the vote. And you overestimate the intelligence, morality and humanity of the American voter (and most voters around the world). They have been assaulted with all the bullshit from the Internet, religious leaders, their business elite, etc. They feel powerless over their lives and so feel the need to be cruel and viscous. It is an ugly picture that I paint but I believe that it is a true one.

But whether most Canadians like it or not, America could very likely vote in a narcissist, crazy old man heading towards dementia to become their dictator. I look at the polls and that Harris is barely up 2% over Trump nationwide is disappointing. It is the electoral college (heavily slanted towards the Republicans, and worked on them for the last 30 years) that may win Trump the election. He may lose the majority vote and still become the dictator. If he becomes the dictator, public policy becomes chaotic and foreign policy will be under the control of Putin. If Trump wins, Putin will have won his greatest victory. And the rest of the world loses...................
The right in the USA knows that they're going to loose forever if they stay the same and demographics continue. Thats why you see the attacks on immigration and attempts to cheat and disenfranchise the populace.
The rich support the Republicans out of greedy self interest and generally control media narrative , sometimes skewing left if they can make a buck, but generally 'consrrvative'. Most folks don't really do alot of critical thinking, just support team blue or red. Combined, alot of people just eat the slop they're fed.
Hence the Trump support IMHO.
 

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Americans from Florida to North Carolina continue to deal with the devastating consequences of Hurricane Helene...

A combination of heavy-handed federal and state action has attempted to undercut recovery efforts, from grounding private helicopters seeking to rescue stranded victims, to the demands to stop citizens from flying drones near impacted areas seeking to locate those in need of help.

Here, the priority of government actors has been to elevate their control over the situation at the expense of these efforts.

The allocation of emergency resources itself is deserving of extended scrutiny as well. The victims of this tragedy, like all Americans, have their wealth extracted by Washington to fill the coffers of large federal agencies like FEMA [Federal Emergency Management Agency, operated by Department of Homeland Security] This same agency, whose nominal priority is to assist Americans in the case of emergency, are already pleading poverty. Of course, these same agencies oversaw the redirection of over a billion dollars in recent years to subsidize migration into the country. The priorities are clear, emergency funds take a back seat to a regime that cares more about new arrivals than the families who lived in this country for generations.

This predatory relationship between the regime and its citizens is systemic.

DC sees no problem with ordering the Tennessee National Guard to the Middle East at a time when their fellow Tennesseans are facing their own crisis. This relationship is also bipartisan in nature.

The regime will always prioritize its own interests, including the interests of what it has identified as their special privileged classes, over the interests of its people. Changing this parasitic relationship requires more than a change of political party in the White House, but a determined effort by those who seek to represent the interests of these people to strike at the root of this relationship.

Unfortunately, while elections alone are not adequate to address the victimization of Appalachia, it is reasonable to consider what impact the specter of politics is having on their current neglect. The counties most impacted by the storm disproportionately vote in ways the current regime does not like.

https://mises.org/mises-wire/regime-wants-appalachia-suffer

That said, 700 Canadians deployed in power restoration following Helene. Hope they're getting a decent wage, safe return to Canada something worth spending it on upon return to Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/atlantic-crews-hurricane-helene-1.7337723
 
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thevalleydude

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Americans from Florida to North Carolina continue to deal with the devastating consequences of Hurricane Helene...

A combination of heavy-handed federal and state action has attempted to undercut recovery efforts, from grounding private helicopters seeking to rescue stranded victims, to the demands to stop citizens from flying drones near impacted areas seeking to locate those in need of help.

Here, the priority of government actors has been to elevate their control over the situation at the expense of these efforts.

The allocation of emergency resources itself is deserving of extended scrutiny as well. The victims of this tragedy, like all Americans, have their wealth extracted by Washington to fill the coffers of large federal agencies like FEMA [Federal Emergency Management Agency, operated by Department of Homeland Security] This same agency, whose nominal priority is to assist Americans in the case of emergency, are already pleading poverty. Of course, these same agencies oversaw the redirection of over a billion dollars in recent years to subsidize migration into the country. The priorities are clear, emergency funds take a back seat to a regime that cares more about new arrivals than the families who lived in this country for generations.

This predatory relationship between the regime and its citizens is systemic.
This was actually the catalyst for me deciding to make this bet. FEMA is almost out of money because..according to Majorkas, much of it was given to illegal migrants and now they have nothing left for their fellow Americans in trouble. That is going to have a big impact on North Carolina, quite possibly throw it into the Republican camp and cost Harris/Walz the election. People who live there are really pissed off at the rescue effort and the measly $750 they get compared to the thousands of dollars on loaded VISA cards given to the illegals and the billions of dollars spent to pay the salaries of the entire civil service of Ukraine.

But anything can happen during the next 30 odd days.

Also fyi the polling data I have been following is coming mostly from CNN and that Harry Enten(?) guy and John King. Not Fox News.
 
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thevalleydude

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Its fine. It's starting to get one sided when our friends from the other side aren't chiming in anymore. Besides if I am wrong, I'll be embarrassed and deserving to be penalized. But if I am right, I'll be able to prove one thing. That I am a normal human being.
So let me get this straight. You are insinuating that you.....a person whose entire existence on a Canadian sexual services message board is being obsessed with posting strictly in an American Political thread... believe that I am not a normal person because I happen to have a different political opinion than you do?

Then you wonder why this has become such an echo chamber.
 

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Good job Dems. The Hurricane relief is at 750 bucks. They government has run out of funds since it all went to illegals who have been given 2 years of housing and food provided. You can bet when the 2 years is up they will get another few years of a 100 percent free ride if Harris is in.
 
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