What do you think is going to happen?
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I'm a book ahead kind of guy and have given deposits, previous SP's as contact but have not been asked to provide ID but would not be opposed to that. We all want to be safe and although I might be naive, I almost always book with ladies who are well reviewed and are held in pretty high regard by most if not all reviewers, and feel perfectly safe. I can see where an SP like Charlee would have qualms about opening her door to a stranger unknown. I am at the door of someone once every few weeks but for her it's daily for the most part. Sheer volume is going to get you a few fruit loops from time to time. Best to be safe, and do screening that makes you somewhat comfortable.
I mean, I used to not be able to screen because I had no rep. I had bad experiences. Trust me when I say anyone you're seeing who hasn't screened you is scared/on high alert/has a weapon nearby.
You deserve to be safe and should never be in fear every time you meet someone new. No one disputes this. Hopefully, within your good circle of friends, you check in and out after every visit.
An agency is ideal for this too. Perhaps sharing your income for your labor is hard for you for the security and vetting they provide.
I wish we had a legalized red light district system like the ones in Hamburg or Amsterdam. Those government procedures help to protect your safety and the health of all parties involved.
Being anonymous and private is a lost treasure in the new world. Let those who value it, accept that they will not get to know you behind closed doors because of it and move on.
.....and this forum has had more then one veriffied SP with a reputation that has gone from whoopee to wacky.....This thread was about verified SPs with a reputation
Yeah and I have friends who have been locked in condos and repeatedly raped for days. I guess we all take risks ??♀
I’m not in as much fear anymore because I screen ?
legalisation is actually not what we want, we want decrim, but I see what you’re saying.
being anonymous is something to value for sure but I’m a professional with a successful business and I don’t see why you’d hand over your ID and credit card repeatedly to so many you’ve never met and know nothing about to buy alcohol but can’t discreetly send it to me.
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Yep I sure want my real name on someone's cell phone with a record of my transaction. Really smart of me to give out my real name.Two words: Heidi Fleiss:
I have not gone thru the whole thread so not sure if someone else has said it already, but it applies both ways don't you think? I only know real names of two of my ATF's. I never asked them , they chose to tell it out (one just blurted out accidentally).
I see your point, but frankly, I personally don't think it is as big of a deal (not telling real ID) as you might think it is. I am not saying that YOU, as in Charlee Beckett would break someone's trust but someone else might.
Hypothetically, what if things between both sides go sour suddenly. What if...........
It is a very secret hobby/business and most people on both sides feel it should be kept that way. If my ATF refused to reveal her true ID to me, I wouldn't get upset at all. Just my opinion.
A purchasing offence—which criminalized those who paid for sexual services—could be prosecuted as an indictable crime, with a maximum penalty of five years in jail.
When women want to advertise their real full names in their advertisements, I will be happy to share mine.
In the meanwhile as most chòose to protect their privacy then my privacy should be respected too.
It just seems weird to me that you’d get to see where I lived and have sex with me and you think me knowing who you are is too much to ask. Like you could stalk me, rape me, kill me... and I could what? Ruin my whole reputation by going after your family or employer that I don’t give two shits about? Damage client trust and thus the safety of my colleagues by reporting you to the police? Lol wow. Like maybe if you did something that caused me to report you...hmmmmm. Maybe that’s what you’re planning ??♀
It’s a business relationship. Accept who you want as clients. Also accept that some potential clients may not want to give you personal information. Reality is both sides generally still have something to lose.
I can accept that they don’t want to do it and still think it’s stupid. ? the question was “what do you think will happen” so tell me. What do you think would happen?
Charlee I understand where you are coming from and support your right to set your parameters of screening and requirement that men provide their names and ids for bookings.
No offence intended, but it won't be me. I am neither stalker, rapist or murderer but I am employed in a high profile position.
You cannot guarantee my privacy, no matter how much you promise to protect it. The moment I send you photo ID or you record my name in your contact list, there are others who can hack your phone and computer, steal my information and subject me to blackmail.
It has nothing to do with trusting someone like you who is probably one of the most trust worthy people posting at this forum. It is about the people you may come across who are not trustworthy.
It is the one person who takes advantage of you, who gains your trust but uses you unknowingly to get to me. That worries me. Paranoia? Absolutely. But for every good person there is a bad person out there.
Again you have every right to select clients who will share their ID with you. I weigh the risks and then make my choices accordingly.
I’ve literally seen married celebrities and politicians. ??♀ I even use signal for clients who don’t feel comfortable.
but yeah, it’s your loss.
My point exactly. I don’t know what would happen. I don’t know you so why should I trust you?
Yep I know it is my loss with every beautiful woman that has the same screening procedures as you.
Every year I suffer about a dozen losses, and don't think that I am using my typical sarcasm when admitting to losses suffered.
Regretfully losing my privacy is a loss I am not willing to suffer.
You are awesome Charlee so the loss is a huge one.
Every year I suffer about a dozen losses, and don't think that I am using my typical sarcasm when admitting to losses suffered.
Regretfully losing my privacy is a loss I am not willing to suffer.
You are awesome Charlee so the loss is a huge one.
I don't give a copy of my ID to anyone. I might show it to them if they need to check it, but they don't have a copy of it. So there is no risk my ID gets out there if they get hacked.
Credit card companies offer insurance in case your credit card gets stolen or is fraudulently used.
I don't care using my real name, sending my LinkedIn, doing e-transfer... but sending my ID is a big no no.
There is no way I am willing to use my real identity, no matter how trustworthy, beautiful, 5 star review holder the SPs think they are.
Yeah that’s fair! I had to send my ID to sign up for leolist and I hated it ? I only ask for ID from guys who won’t send a deposit.
But why? My question is: what do you think is going to happen if an SP knows your real name?
I am very careful with my personal information and can't blame anyone else who is.
While there are many provides out there who I know would never reveal any of a client's personal information, believe me there are more than a few out there who have no idea of what discretion means and more than a few guys who have been burned badly by them. All it takes is one bad experience to jade a person for ever.
There was a lady here in Winnipeg for many years who passed a couple of years ago. To put it bluntly she had a BIG MOUTH! Anyone who saw her could and would tell you she would talk about other clients all the time. And I'm not talking about some Joe Blow nobody ever heard of. I'm talking about some of Winnipeg's big movers and shakers. Lawyers, judges, pro athletes, top executives, etc. In our conversations it turned out that we actually knew people from our teenage years because her family ran a business at a popular lake my family would spend our summers at. A couple of these would see her as clients and she told me so. She ruined one client's marriage. Appaently he was a guy from Calgary who came to Winnipeg frequesntly for business. I'm not privy to what exactly happened but I heard she was under the impression he was going to leave his wife for her. It concluded with her actually going to Calgary and confronting the guy's wife with a whole bunch of information/stories about their relationship.
Then one year I am at a Chinese New Year function as a guest of a friend and she is there as well with her "date'". I'm there with my 14 year old daughter and she just strolls up to the table, tipsy as usual (she was a drunk) and starts talking to me. Asking me when we are going to get together again, etc. Very inappropriate. Of course everyone, including my daughter are asking me who that was. Lucky for me I think quickley on my feet and passed her off as a woman I took on a date a couple of years prior. Let's just say I called her up the next day and ripped her a new one.
So anyone who blames guys , and ladies for that matter for being careful with their personal information, has, fortunately for them, never had a bad experience.
Cheers
J
While there are many provides out there who I know would never reveal any of a client's personal information, believe me there are more than a few out there who have no idea of what discretion means and more than a few guys who have been burned badly by them. All it takes is one bad experience to jade a person for ever.
There was a lady here in Winnipeg for many years who passed a couple of years ago. To put it bluntly she had a BIG MOUTH! Anyone who saw her could and would tell you she would talk about other clients all the time. And I'm not talking about some Joe Blow nobody ever heard of. I'm talking about some of Winnipeg's big movers and shakers. Lawyers, judges, pro athletes, top executives, etc. In our conversations it turned out that we actually knew people from our teenage years because her family ran a business at a popular lake my family would spend our summers at. A couple of these would see her as clients and she told me so. She ruined one client's marriage. Appaently he was a guy from Calgary who came to Winnipeg frequesntly for business. I'm not privy to what exactly happened but I heard she was under the impression he was going to leave his wife for her. It concluded with her actually going to Calgary and confronting the guy's wife with a whole bunch of information/stories about their relationship.
Then one year I am at a Chinese New Year function as a guest of a friend and she is there as well with her "date'". I'm there with my 14 year old daughter and she just strolls up to the table, tipsy as usual (she was a drunk) and starts talking to me. Asking me when we are going to get together again, etc. Very inappropriate. Of course everyone, including my daughter are asking me who that was. Lucky for me I think quickley on my feet and passed her off as a woman I took on a date a couple of years prior. Let's just say I called her up the next day and ripped her a new one.
So anyone who blames guys , and ladies for that matter for being careful with their personal information, has, fortunately for them, never had a bad experience.
Cheers
J
wowwwwwwww what a nightmare! I mean I guess as someone who's been around for around four years, and never done anything like this (trust me it would be all over social media and perb if I had) I'm still surprised that people wouldn't trust me. I agree that this would make me more cautious, though. I mean, things men have done to me are what have made me require screening, so... *shrug* I still don't risking your marriage to get laid and risking your life to work are comparable, but obviously I understand there is a concern from the client's side.
I will just point out a couple of things though because I can't help but nitpick:
1. She didn't ruin the marriage, the husband did. Her behaviour was totally inappropriate and honestly horrible but at the end of the day, when you choose to see an SP as a married man, you run the risk of discovery; whether through your own carelessness (much more common in my experience) or the provider's. ALSO I will say that even if you don't share your personal info with a provider there are tons of ways to find it anyways.
2. Even if this woman had no idea what your true identity was, she still could have harassed you at this event in the same way.
I'm really sorry you had this super awkward experience. It's super unprofessional and makes me shake my head.
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