One trip per week. 1 person per household. That should be the law for grocery buying

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Western Canada's largest private-sector union is proposing that people be limited to one trip to the grocery store each week to prevent the spread of COVID-19 among customers and workers.

Tom Hesse, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers 401, which represents 32,000 workers, said governments should also bring in regulations that allow only one person per family in a store at a time.

"We're going to ask for clear rules that are enforceable with fines in a regulatory regime. The fact of the matter is we can't let these places become nursing homes and it's just a free-for-all in these grocery stores right now," Hesse told The Canadian Press.

The union suggests loyalty programs and membership cards could be used to track visits and peace officers may be needed to enforce the regulations.

While people can be fined for violating social distancing rules inside grocery stores, Hesse said it's still unsafe.

"I walked down the street from my house and they've got yellow tape around the monkey bars and I'm told that if I get on those monkey bars I can get a $1,000 fine," he said.

"But they're letting hundreds of people wander through grocery stores. So where's the regulatory regime?"

Hesse said the union will be sending an official proposal to the Alberta government and grocery store chains next week and hopes that a nation-wide implementation will eventually occur. He said government regulation is required because self-regulation by the grocery industry would be "the fox guarding the henhouse."

Alberta Health points to existing measures
An Alberta Health spokesman said there are already plenty of distancing rules in place in grocery stores, as well as hand sanitizer stations and cleaning to maintain high levels of hygiene.

Many stores have also implemented measures such as one-way aisles and spacing stickers in check-out lines. Shields have also been installed at tills to protect cashiers. Loblaws says on its website that it is limiting store capacity, not doing returns and asking people to pay with cards.

"We recognize the important role that workers at grocery stores are playing during this pandemic," said Alberta Health spokesman Tom McMillan, in an email.

"We have taken clear steps to protect grocery workers, while ensuring that families have flexibility to continue meeting their needs during this difficult time. If additional measures are needed in the future, we will take them."

The Federal Department of Labour issued a statement noting the safety of grocery store workers is a provincial jurisdiction.

"We continue to urge all employers to go above and beyond standard health and safety measures to ensure that workers are safe in this extraordinary situation while accommodating reasonable requests from employees," the statement reads.

Two major grocery store chains, Loblaws and Sobeys, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ufcw-one-trip-per-week-grocery-store-1.5536614
 

poonerboi

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Seriously? And how would this be implemented? Having to register on a government list with full documentation and being issued a token to be presented at the grocers? {Paper and digital too easy to counterfeit. Or perhaps this is how they will force the public to accept microchip implants to be scanned.

I have said it before and I will say it again. If it was as big a threat as they are saying, why not have mobile health units going door to door testing all ans slapping a big red Q on the doors of the infected?
 

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badbadboy

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One trip per week is what I’ve been doing since the start of the pandemic.

I do have some food delivered and mainly pick up things like milk, bread, fresh fish etc.
 

poonerboi

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Ration Books, good enough for Cuba.
Apples and oranges, my friend! Firstly, the system has been in place for decades. And it is only rationing of certain items which are purchased from supply depots at subsidized prices . If a citizen had the means to afford more at retail ,then they can.

I also highly doubt that there is the likelihood of people making counterfeit books even if they had the resources.

And each households book is tailored precisely. Number of people,ages, health needs are all taken into account and provided.
 

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... I have said it before and I will say it again. If it was as big a threat as they are saying, why not have mobile health units going door to door testing all ans slapping a big red Q on the doors of the infected?
That will be an awful way to use a very limited test capacity, and risk spreading the infection even more.

Slapping a big Q on the door is also a gross violation of privacy.

Bad idea all around.
 

204fun

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So far I have been able to limit our trips to the grocery store to about once every two weeks and have been trying to go during non-peak hours. Meal planning has become a huge part of what we do and usually throw in some take-out or delivery one the weekends. It seems to be working out fairly well, but by the end of the second week things definitely get a bit thin. I don't mind doing the shopping by myself as I'm pretty used to it, but at places like Superstore/Loblaws where you have to bag your own groceries I have definitely seen a few people who have been struggling.

The one issue I have seen in the stores is that people are trying to get in and out of the store so quickly that they are abandoning most forms of social distancing and ignoring some of the safety measures that the stores have put in place. If you are shopping in the store it is going to take about 10-15 minutes longer than it normally would if you are properly abiding by the social distancing measures and with the current situation I'm pretty sure most of us have an extra 10-15 minutes in our schedules.
 

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I have family living in Europe and the police and military are used heavily to enforce the restrictions on movement which are much stricter than here. Something similar could be used here using layed off city workers logging ids outside of grocery stores, could also have preassigned shopping days based on address (used in Taiwan for picking up rationed face masks) and limit access to local grocery stores by geography (used in Ireland).

Nothing is impossible, it is more of a question of how you want to regulate compliance, whether you want it to be voluntary (the model followed in BC) or want to engage in active enforcement.
 

Jethro Bodine

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I think the idea of limiting visits is ridiculous. How would it work for those like me who are shopping for elderly relatives? I go shopping 3 or 4 times a week between myself, my parents and an eldery aunt.
No one is going to the store right now just for fun. If you are there, it means you need something.
Overall I have found my recent shopping experiences to be okay. Whether it be to Walmart, Sobeys or Home Depot. They seem to limit the number of people in the stores, using arrows to create unidirectional aisles. Sure there is the odd moron who while in the store doesn't think the rules apply to them. But there are always going to be those types.
I have found most fellow shoppers to be polite and give people appropriate distancing.

To me the biggest culprits of not respecting distancing is the store employees. Just yesterday I am in Sobeys and while grabbing some pasta a store employee comes down the aisle, the wrong way and actually brushes against me as he goes by. Knuckelhead!

Cheers
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Miss Hunter

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I have a feeling our ancestors are rolling in their graves right now because of the amount of people who are willing and, in some cases, begging for the government to step in, take our rights away and control our every movement.
 

Miss Hunter

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Some of us had ancestors who fought and risked their lives for the freedom we have. ... or, shall I say, had.
 

Miss Hunter

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I know Covid-19 is deadly to certain demographics so I feel the resources and efforts should go into protecting them, first and foremost.

How about just making sure those people get priority over access to grocery shopping and grocery delivery services. And like Jethro mentioned, some people are shopping multiple times a week to bring food and necessities for those who need to be protected from exposure to covid-19.

Anytime I’ve been in the grocery store most people are doing great with social distancing.
 

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I have family living in Europe and the police and military are used heavily to enforce the restrictions on movement which are much stricter than here. Something similar could be used here using layed off city workers logging ids outside of grocery stores, could also have preassigned shopping days based on address (used in Taiwan for picking up rationed face masks) and limit access to local grocery stores by geography (used in Ireland).

Nothing is impossible, it is more of a question of how you want to regulate compliance, whether you want it to be voluntary (the model followed in BC) or want to engage in active enforcement.
The mantra of "Nothing is impossible" or "Everything is possible" always ignores the more important question, "Is it feasible?" The everything is possible (nothing is impossible) crowd, in my opinion, always seem to like to create work for the sake of creating work. Do work, don't make work - it's a good way to approach most things - another way of saying it "a solution looking for a problem isn't really a solution to anything."
 

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I go infrequently and 7:00 am works very well for me.....

My Dad was a WW2 vet in the Merchant Navy, went in at 16.......... he'd think it was funny that folks are whining about the inconveniences we're suffering through. By comparison to the war years.....no comparison. Coming upon life boats from a merchant ship in the North Atlantic with occupants frozen solid gives one perspective.

We've been spoiled and entitled, this has been a wake up call we've needed. Greed got us here and greed will keep us here.

Peace
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This would suck so bad. How many times do you go to the store,come home and realize you forgot something lol !

I am surprised that stores have not gone completely to online/curbside pickup. You keep people out of the store and have the same number of people working, only instead of operating tills etc you have them putting orders together. I know stores like Superstore do it but they are booked so fast so this could allow them to do it more. Not sure how hard it would be for stores that don't do it now to implement. Just a thought.
 

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This would suck so bad. How many times do you go to the store,come home and realize you forgot something lol !

I am surprised that stores have not gone completely to online/curbside pickup. You keep people out of the store and have the same number of people working, only instead of operating tills etc you have them putting orders together. I know stores like Superstore do it but they are booked so fast so this could allow them to do it more. Not sure how hard it would be for stores that don't do it now to implement. Just a thought.
It is not remotely feasible due to volume. Thankfully, so far at least, government has been smart enough to let people eat. The moment they don't, they just don't have enough cops.

And Miss Hunter is absolutely right about the erosion of our freedoms. Some elements of government will use this as a great big power grab.
 

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Should be the rule at the best of times, not just now. Hate trying to shop and having to deal with the family outings where the kids are running amuck.
 
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