Many people realize the Greens and to a bigger extent the NDP are total nutjobs.Try reading the NDP LEAP manifesto(only Communists have a Manifesto) and if they got Governance Canada would be on a collision course for destination FUCKED.
SR
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FEW: let me define that better....
When a gov has a majority (of the 338 seats); the gov is run by the privy counsel/cabinet which are some 36 members of the majority party...
As seen by the SNC Lavlin scandal, only 1 person dictates to the cabinet.... the prime minister (after all he is the one that assigns the MPs to an ministry position)
Now these FEW people run the country through the majority in parliament...
Those FEW are susceptible to party politics and bribes and other such shit from Lobbyists (companies and people with money). Murphy's Law states "he with the most gold makes the rules".... These Lobbyist tell/get/bribe to get their own rules into law to benefit them.....
The joeblow Cdn voter could not affect the outcome of the SNC Lavlin scandal, they can only vote in the next election...
But overall the FEW comment was a generalization of the political make up of Canada. The Canadian voter can only vote once every 5 years (at election time for federal elections).... Sounds like a democracy to me.... but really everything is left up to the lobbyists and the cabinet ministers... everyone else (majority MPs) falls into line; including the voters who can do nothing. They (voters) can't even recall their MP.
When a gov has a majority (of the 338 seats); the gov is run by the privy counsel/cabinet which are some 36 members of the majority party...
As seen by the SNC Lavlin scandal, only 1 person dictates to the cabinet.... the prime minister (after all he is the one that assigns the MPs to an ministry position)
Now these FEW people run the country through the majority in parliament...
Those FEW are susceptible to party politics and bribes and other such shit from Lobbyists (companies and people with money). Murphy's Law states "he with the most gold makes the rules".... These Lobbyist tell/get/bribe to get their own rules into law to benefit them.....
The joeblow Cdn voter could not affect the outcome of the SNC Lavlin scandal, they can only vote in the next election...
But overall the FEW comment was a generalization of the political make up of Canada. The Canadian voter can only vote once every 5 years (at election time for federal elections).... Sounds like a democracy to me.... but really everything is left up to the lobbyists and the cabinet ministers... everyone else (majority MPs) falls into line; including the voters who can do nothing. They (voters) can't even recall their MP.
I think had he come clean from the very beginning it would likely have been a non-issue. The problem is he kept denying it in the beginning, and only when it became clear evidence showed otherwise, then he started to spin it as in the interest of saving jobs.
your delusions, just like the others on here about the Liberals are so utterly asinine
it's just sad
Trudeau is the most unethical PM we've ever had
he is our Donald Trump, look at what he's done, how, it's so similar to Trump's actions
they are both incompetent
prostitution laws, spare me
Harper, it was really that POS Peter MacKay, he's an anal control freak, his wife is a SJW for women's issues, he's a "supposed" religious type
and it only happened because of the Dom that took it to court, they were forced to come up with something else
or did you see them change our prostitution laws the previous 8 yrs while they were forcing all those women to take their pregnancies to full term?
when they weren't beating all the immigrants, forcing children to work in the mines, ect.....
and what have Justin (I can't tell the truth/I'm above the law) and his band of incompetents done in the last 4 yrs?
nothing, which is what they will do for another 4 yrs
past behaviour is a great predictor of future behaviour
Harper touched prostitution cause he was forced to
which is what the other parties would/will do
cause it is political shit, no one wants to deal with it, just like abortion
there is no general appetite for it, except on the fringes
Well said I will say.I sure as fuck wont vote for a Party Doctrine based on this destructive pastime....cant call it a "hobby" as a "hobby is constructive.
I want good qualified people in Government in key slots.....not gender balanced BULLSHIT because the joke of a PM is a "feminest".....I dont want idiots like McKenna aka Climate Barbie as Environment Minister when she is seriously out of her depth and clueless
who shows up for photo ops riding her bike on sunny days(oh those sunny ways) and the rest of the time goes to Parliament in a gas guzzling SUV on tax payer money.
I dont give a rats ass if the PM marches in a Pride Parade to pander to the alphabet VOTE.
I want good Governance and Fiscal Responsibility as I am getting raped in the ass as a tax payer.
When it comes down to brass tacks LE cracks down on Prostitution when it is a problem raised by the public in general.VPD/CPS/PCMP only resort to a crackdown when people bitch and complain.For Fuck Sakes the RCMP took how many years to nail down Pickton and that was a serious bad case of a guy killing street Hookers.....the LE is not too worried about prosecuting Prostitution....the time and paperwork is a PITA.
To vote in that direction and to re-elect Trudeau based on this sole policy which is not on the Lieberals "red book" is foolish at best and idiotic at worst.
SR
He's a disappointment, but that might be a bit hyperbolic. I'd take him over, say, Mulroney. Maybe given time he'd accumulate more misdeeds to be a contender, but he hasn't been in power long enough to be the worst, and likely never will.
Given Trudeau's TWO convctions for ethics breaches, and his obvious status as a pandering, walking photo op, I an't see why anyone would now vote for him.
But the biggest question as to remain - Why does SNC Lavalin hold such power over this government, given there hasn't been a shred of evidence even one job was at stake?
But the biggest question as to remain - Why does SNC Lavalin hold such power over this government, given there hasn't been a shred of evidence even one job was at stake?
really? what more could he have done in barely 4 yrs?
you seem to forget, Mark Norman, he was commenting on the case before the man was even charged, then he stated that it would go to court
he lies constantly
claims to be about science/facts, but only uses them when they fit his narrative
he groped a womans ass yrs ago, but he disagrees
that's his level of debate, like the old joke where the kid gets up at Debate Club, his rebuttal is
I Disagree
then sits down
Kenney when he called Justin's level of intelligence "the depth of a finger bowl"
no one disputed it, they just said it was mean/uncalled for
he claimed the Aga Khan was a friend, a friend he hadn't seen or spent time with
even Liberals, the one's who aren't sycophants, you know, like Trumps Republicans, are getting tired of him
and it's been less than 4yrs, like you said
he's an empty shell, a figure head, who will say anything
the Liberals know they're done without him, that's how shallow their pool is
he did it before while in opposition
said one thing in French another in English, depending on who he's trying to bribe, or being bribed by
that's one of his only real talents
HE WAS TAKING MONEY FROM PUBLIC ORGANIZATIONS FOR SPEAKING, WHILE HE WAS COLLECTING A SALARY FOR BEING AN MP, (PRETTY MUCH THE DEFINITION OF THE JOB) WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS
the manchild has never had any ethics
nothing is his fault
he has no equal
well south of the border he does
he's so similar to Trump, it's just sad
lies, law doesn't apply to him, incompetent, calls people names, ect...
Hey now dont point out the obvious....that Trudeau lived a life of entitlement all of his life at the cost to his trust fund and since getting into politics via name recognition he has done the same but at tax payer expense.Dont say those things as you may "trigger"
loyal Lieberal voters who have been brainwashed and think his actions over Lavscam were just fine and dandy....same goes with Adscam when 250 million of tax payer money was siphoned off and fed to cronies and bagmen in Quebec.
All I can is going into this election is the media for the most part are not fawning over Trudeau and kissing his ass....in recent weeks they are out for blood as they should be.Say what you want about Harper with regards to controlling his caucus with whipped votes etc but he did not get flagged/nailed with multiple Ethics violations like Trudeau has.Nor did Harper act like an entitled "Prince" of Canada,his wife took care of the kids and did not have 2 nannies.
SR
yeah, that's part of the problem, you should be saying he isn't a good guy, loudly
he isn't even OK, average, he's a POS
his actions have repeatedly shown that time and time again
it should be obvious to anyone who isn't a Liberal Party Hack
and it affects everyone
he's turning our Country into a banana republic, just like Trump/US
he's actually implementing things that are going to affect us for yrs, negatively
triggered, no, pissed off by the udder stupidity, regardless of political stripe
of those who are saying this is nothing, no big deal
Harper was nothing compared to this POS, he had nothing on Trudeau's ways
put someone else in the Liberal seat, anyone
but this guy is dangerous, he's not a leader, he's a figurehead
an incompetent one
the list of his gaffs, stupidity, politically incorrect actions/reactions, in barely 4yrs is so long, it's not just sad, it's pathetic
his bribery, willingness to drown us in debt in perpetuity to achieve it, should alarm everyone
he's dangerous to our democracy, welfare, security, our way of life
he needs to be replaced and never heard from again
just common sense to anyone who's been awake for the last 3+yrs and isn't a LIBERAL HACK
any of the other 3 leaders would be a huge improvement, even May and the guy who no one knows his name
they all have more character/ethics in their little pinky than Trudeau does
Well said I will say.In rebuttal I will say that an NDP or Green Federal Government would be a total disaster.The Greens are just plain nuts and the NDP are a shade to the right of outright communists.Read the NDP LEAP manifesto and even try to disagree with me.One of the biggest planks in it is wealth distribution.As in take from the "haves" who have worked for it,and give it to the "have nots" who have worked for nothing.In every Province the NDP have governed they have run that Province into the ground.Not to
mention the sheer overload of kickbacks/bribes/entitlements etc that has happened.Does not matter if it was BC/Alberta/Saskatchewan/Manitoba/Ontario the result was economic ruin.The only reason the Horgan lead NDP in BC are not up to their usual shennanigans is beacause they are being propped up by the Green party who are keeping a close eye on things.
Thankfully in Alberta the NDP only got 1 term and by accident.It will still take a long time to fix the damage done though.
SR
What a surprise.The Lieberal dominated Ethics committee shut down all action by the opposition Party's.
OTTAWA — Liberal members of a parliamentary committee have blocked an opposition attempt to hear from ethics commissioner Mario Dion about his scathing report into Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's handling of the SNC-Lavalin affair.
Only one of six Liberal MPs on the 10-member House of Commons ethics committee supported a Conservative motion to call Dion, and possibly others, to testify about the report.
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The lone Liberal outlier, Toronto MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, supported the motion only because he said he wanted Dion to explain what he considered the commissioner's "legally flawed" conclusion that Trudeau broke the Conflict of Interest Act.
Quebec MP Steven MacKinnon spoke for the other Liberal members, dismissing the motion as a blatantly partisan attempt to re-ignite public outrage over the SNC-Lavalin controversy on the eve an election call.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks to the media at the national press gallery regarding the SNC-Lavalin affairs in Ottawa, Ontario, on March 7, 2019. (LARS HAGBERG/AFP/Getty Images)© Getty Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks to the media at the national press gallery regarding the SNC-Lavalin affairs in Ottawa, Ontario, on March 7, 2019. (LARS HAGBERG/AFP/Getty Images)
Dion concluded in his report last week that Trudeau broke the Conflict of Interest Act by improperly pressuring former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to halt a criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin.
Dion also disclosed in his report that he couldn't get all the information he required, as potential witnesses and Trudeau's office claimed cabinet confidence stopped from them from sharing everything they knew.
Trudeau has accepted the report and taken full responsibility for mistakes that were made, but he has also disagreed with Dion's conclusion and resolutely refused to apologize for what he characterizes as standing up for Canadian jobs.
Conservatives and New Democrats pushed for the emergency committee meeting held Wednesday afternoon on Parliament Hill. Dion had said he would make himself available to testify, and would have done so by video conference.
On Wednesday morning, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer reiterated his call for the Liberals to put partisan interests ahead of their own and let the study proceed.
"We will learn today whether or not scandal and corruption is limited to just the Liberal party's leader in the form of Justin Trudeau, or whether or not this rot has infected the entire Liberal caucus and the entire Liberal party," Scheer said at an event in Richmond Hill, Ont.
Scheer said that if the study fails to go ahead, he hopes to be able to convince voters to hold Trudeau accountable on voting day this October.
"We cannot have a lawmaker who is a lawbreaker."
Trudeau has suggested voters want to move on.
The Canadian Press
This a fucking joke.Never before has ANY Canadian Prime Minister has been hit with Ethics Violations and Trudeau has done it twice in 1 term.Do you seriously want to give this entitled asshole 4 more years of power?
Argue the FACTS if you can.
SR
OTTAWA — Liberal members of a parliamentary committee have blocked an opposition attempt to hear from ethics commissioner Mario Dion about his scathing report into Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's handling of the SNC-Lavalin affair.
Only one of six Liberal MPs on the 10-member House of Commons ethics committee supported a Conservative motion to call Dion, and possibly others, to testify about the report.
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The lone Liberal outlier, Toronto MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith, supported the motion only because he said he wanted Dion to explain what he considered the commissioner's "legally flawed" conclusion that Trudeau broke the Conflict of Interest Act.
Quebec MP Steven MacKinnon spoke for the other Liberal members, dismissing the motion as a blatantly partisan attempt to re-ignite public outrage over the SNC-Lavalin controversy on the eve an election call.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks to the media at the national press gallery regarding the SNC-Lavalin affairs in Ottawa, Ontario, on March 7, 2019. (LARS HAGBERG/AFP/Getty Images)© Getty Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks to the media at the national press gallery regarding the SNC-Lavalin affairs in Ottawa, Ontario, on March 7, 2019. (LARS HAGBERG/AFP/Getty Images)
Dion concluded in his report last week that Trudeau broke the Conflict of Interest Act by improperly pressuring former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to halt a criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin.
Dion also disclosed in his report that he couldn't get all the information he required, as potential witnesses and Trudeau's office claimed cabinet confidence stopped from them from sharing everything they knew.
Trudeau has accepted the report and taken full responsibility for mistakes that were made, but he has also disagreed with Dion's conclusion and resolutely refused to apologize for what he characterizes as standing up for Canadian jobs.
Conservatives and New Democrats pushed for the emergency committee meeting held Wednesday afternoon on Parliament Hill. Dion had said he would make himself available to testify, and would have done so by video conference.
On Wednesday morning, Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer reiterated his call for the Liberals to put partisan interests ahead of their own and let the study proceed.
"We will learn today whether or not scandal and corruption is limited to just the Liberal party's leader in the form of Justin Trudeau, or whether or not this rot has infected the entire Liberal caucus and the entire Liberal party," Scheer said at an event in Richmond Hill, Ont.
Scheer said that if the study fails to go ahead, he hopes to be able to convince voters to hold Trudeau accountable on voting day this October.
"We cannot have a lawmaker who is a lawbreaker."
Trudeau has suggested voters want to move on.
The Canadian Press
This a fucking joke.Never before has ANY Canadian Prime Minister has been hit with Ethics Violations and Trudeau has done it twice in 1 term.Do you seriously want to give this entitled asshole 4 more years of power?
Argue the FACTS if you can.
SR
Even more of a joke.
MONTREAL — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada will seek dialogue with China but won't back down in its defence of Canadians against what he calls an increasingly assertive global power.
In a speech Wednesday in Montreal, Trudeau said the federal government is closely monitoring developments in Hong Kong, where there are 300,000 Canadian citizens.
He stressed the need for restraint and respect of the right to peaceful assembly in the face of protests that have rocked the semi-independent Chinese territory.
"Canadians expect us to be unwavering in our commitment to human rights, while upholding the paramount importance of international law," Trudeau said.
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© THE CANADIAN PRESS/Paul ChiassonCanada's relationship with China is fraught with tension over Canada's arrest of Chinese telecom executive Meng Wanzhou, and China's subsequent detention of two Canadians, allegedly for national security reasons.
Trudeau said the government is working to obtain the release of businessman Michael Spavor and former diplomat Michael Kovrig, who were detained in China in December shortly after Meng was arrested at the Vancouver airport to face possible extradition to the United States.
"As a global community, we must recognize that China is a growing power and increasingly assertive towards its place in the international order," Trudeau told the audience at the Montreal Council on Foreign Relations.
"But make no mistake: we will always defend Canadians and Canadian interests."
The prime minister cited the country's history of successful diplomacy with larger nations and said Canada has generated widespread international support for its effort to have Spavor and Kovrig released.
"We do not escalate, but we do not back down," he said.
The Canadian Press.
For fuck sakes cant anyone realize that Trudeau is just trying to finish the work of his father.
If you would vote for the guy you are pretty much taking up a knife and plunging it into the HEART of Canada...encouraging the country to just DIE.
SR
MONTREAL — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada will seek dialogue with China but won't back down in its defence of Canadians against what he calls an increasingly assertive global power.
In a speech Wednesday in Montreal, Trudeau said the federal government is closely monitoring developments in Hong Kong, where there are 300,000 Canadian citizens.
He stressed the need for restraint and respect of the right to peaceful assembly in the face of protests that have rocked the semi-independent Chinese territory.
"Canadians expect us to be unwavering in our commitment to human rights, while upholding the paramount importance of international law," Trudeau said.
Trudeau said the government is working to obtain the release of businessman Michael Spavor and former diplomat Michael Kovrig, who were detained in China in December shortly after Meng was arrested at the Vancouver airport to face possible extradition to the United States.
"As a global community, we must recognize that China is a growing power and increasingly assertive towards its place in the international order," Trudeau told the audience at the Montreal Council on Foreign Relations.
"But make no mistake: we will always defend Canadians and Canadian interests."
The prime minister cited the country's history of successful diplomacy with larger nations and said Canada has generated widespread international support for its effort to have Spavor and Kovrig released.
"We do not escalate, but we do not back down," he said.
The Canadian Press.
For fuck sakes cant anyone realize that Trudeau is just trying to finish the work of his father.
If you would vote for the guy you are pretty much taking up a knife and plunging it into the HEART of Canada...encouraging the country to just DIE.
SR
So, where was the Ethics Commissioner of Canada when trade treaties were sending Canadian jobs overseas to be done my marginalized labour? Didn't hear about the Ethics Commissioner of Canada finding fault in the number of oligarchs that got rich off the backs of marginalized labour overseas and coming to Canada and bid up the price of real estate that puts home ownership out of reach for the younger generation of Canadians.
Interesting timing to be starting work on Transmountain. Pipe is stacked up and ready to go out by the Abbottsford Airport visible from the freeway.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trans-mountain-mobilizes-workforce-start-171548073.html
Dont see this helping Justin get any votes. No Conservative is likely to switch to vote Liberal and it may cost the Libs votes to the Greens as apparently they will be starting construction at the Burnaby terminal in Sept/Oct pre election. No one is switching their votes to the irrelevant NDP.
This will enrage Canine Cowboy.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/trans-mountain-mobilizes-workforce-start-171548073.html
Dont see this helping Justin get any votes. No Conservative is likely to switch to vote Liberal and it may cost the Libs votes to the Greens as apparently they will be starting construction at the Burnaby terminal in Sept/Oct pre election. No one is switching their votes to the irrelevant NDP.
This will enrage Canine Cowboy.
I met with my other sister the other day (the one that does NOT work for the Catholic Church) and she put forward her opinion that Jody Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott were not "team players" when they created the issues for the Liberal government in general and Trudeau specifically. I was surprised with her opinion, because she is a very strong "women's rights" advocate. But she is also a pragmotist and I must say that I totally agree with her view. We both also believe that these 2 women have set back progress for women in Canadian politics in a signficant way. I suspect that other Canadian political parties have noted what happened and will be much more carefull in the future assigning important portfolios to women . And of course, the recent findings by the ethics committee would never have occurred if Jody Wilson-Raybould had played ball.
Now before you jump all over me, I do not disagree that perhaps Jody Wilson-Raybould was correct in her opinion of what was asked of her by Trueau and company. But I firmly believe that the vast majoirty of male politicians, if put in the same position, would have either held their nose and agreed to play ball or at the very least would ahve made sure that the whole scenario of disagreement would nevery have gone public. Jody Wilson-Raybould has caused a great deal of grief for the Liberal party that she could have avoided, but chose instead to publically air, inorder to make herself look like a martyr.
And this is why I do not care at all about the finding of the ethics committee, because I strongly suspect other politicians, both Liberal and Conservative, have done very similar things, but these actions never saw the light of day, because they had ministers that were first and foremost "team players".
JD
Now before you jump all over me, I do not disagree that perhaps Jody Wilson-Raybould was correct in her opinion of what was asked of her by Trueau and company. But I firmly believe that the vast majoirty of male politicians, if put in the same position, would have either held their nose and agreed to play ball or at the very least would ahve made sure that the whole scenario of disagreement would nevery have gone public. Jody Wilson-Raybould has caused a great deal of grief for the Liberal party that she could have avoided, but chose instead to publically air, inorder to make herself look like a martyr.
And this is why I do not care at all about the finding of the ethics committee, because I strongly suspect other politicians, both Liberal and Conservative, have done very similar things, but these actions never saw the light of day, because they had ministers that were first and foremost "team players".
JD
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