Winnipeg and Edmonton are both looking at trial projects of lowering speed limits in residential neighbourhoods to 30 or 40 km/hr instead of the present 50.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Thoughts on Lowered speed limits
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They tried this in the city I lived previously , my thoughts are this people will speed regardless of the speed limit,
I say leave it at 50 and enforce the rules to zero tolerance with speed cameras and problem solved.
I also think speed limits of 30 in school zones should be first priority in enforcement. I also think an upgrade of signs in Nanaimo is need as they just say school zone. So let’s post flashing lights when school is in or at the minimum say school zone between 8 am and 5 pm
Having said that I lived in a city that had posted 40 Kim’s per hour on all residential Streets and it was enforced, so lower accidents.
I say leave it at 50 and enforce the rules to zero tolerance with speed cameras and problem solved.
I also think speed limits of 30 in school zones should be first priority in enforcement. I also think an upgrade of signs in Nanaimo is need as they just say school zone. So let’s post flashing lights when school is in or at the minimum say school zone between 8 am and 5 pm
Having said that I lived in a city that had posted 40 Kim’s per hour on all residential Streets and it was enforced, so lower accidents.
The city of Calgary is mulling this over and it is a stupid idea.A few years back the city changed all school zones to playground zones at a cost of $500,000 then six months later they admitted it was a stupid plan.The city could not justify
spending another $500,000 to switch them back.
SR
spending another $500,000 to switch them back.
SR
A pedestrian struck by a car traveling 50km/hour has a 10% survival rate, a pedestrian struck by a car traveling 30km/hour has a 90% survival rate.
ah yes, the study from the 80's, completely irrelevant today
the first person killed by a car, speed was something like 6 miles an hour
before the hounddog looking school board trustee got elected to Edm city council, we had no school zone speed limit, it was 50km/h, like the rest of the side roads/unmarked
the bureaucrats, who actually run the city, came back 3X in the last 15yrs telling the morons there was no need for one
then the anal retentive POS got elected
where were the bodies of all the poor little children piled up in Edm for the past 50 yrs?
where are the stats to prove that putting in school zones drastically reduced (death) the numbers that weren't even in the teens to begin with?
let alone actual accidents?
anal retentive POS, emotion, that's what's driving this bullshit
the speed limits in cities, as well as on highways, for the past 40yrs haven't changed
cars are nowhere near the same, you can't even compare the steering/brakes/suspension to cars from old
the roads are different, design, weather
the amount of vehicles on the roads are way up, miles driven way up
deaths by car accident are down, statistically, per driver, per km driven
most accidents in cities, in intersections, left turns, rear ends, in other words, bad road design
highways, volume, weather, just look at long weekends, more people on the road, winter/rain, it isn't rocket science
it's bullshit
it's about anal retentive POS trying to make an issue using emotion instead of facts
like most of the twitter crowd, extremists out there
the amount of people dying in car accidents, stable in real numbers since the 70's
photo radar, if it was anywhere near as successful as they like to believe, then why is Alberta's numbers no better than BC's where it isn't allowed?
if 50 was too fast, where are all the bodies from the past? present?
statistically, there is no problem, people are going to get hit, they are going to die, just like since the first car was put on the road
cause people are stupid and make mistakes
In neighbourhoods for sure make the speed limit 30 km/h.
Major arterial routes should be 60+. Make routes such as Knight St / Clark Dr, Granville St, Oak St and Marine Dr higher speed routes. Enough of these silly 50 km/h speed traps.
Most major cities have higher speed arterial routes. Look at London England with its A5 highway system for example. It's a network of highways circling the City and has vastly improved their gridlock. Of course, once you are in the city it's another story.
If they are really concerned about air pollution and green house gases, the idling at red lights and constant slow congestion needs to be looked at seriously.
Major arterial routes should be 60+. Make routes such as Knight St / Clark Dr, Granville St, Oak St and Marine Dr higher speed routes. Enough of these silly 50 km/h speed traps.
Most major cities have higher speed arterial routes. Look at London England with its A5 highway system for example. It's a network of highways circling the City and has vastly improved their gridlock. Of course, once you are in the city it's another story.
If they are really concerned about air pollution and green house gases, the idling at red lights and constant slow congestion needs to be looked at seriously.
A low-tech, economical solution in speed bumps. Don't like drivers that race up to crosswalks and slam on the brakes.
I agree, no rules are good if not enforced. There is a practical issue of costs on case-by-case basis. With technology improvements, speed cameras should be getting more cost-efficient these days (and can double as red-light cameras). If not, nothing's wrong with other options: random police checks or speed bumps where appropriate.
As of now, cameras on some BC intersections are being reconfigured to issue automated speeding tickets. The arguments in the government press release seem to sound right to me.
In Victoria, everywhere you turn its a 30 km/h zone for schools and places where kids are like parks. Problem is there are too many of them, when there shouldn't be. The road behind the Hospital (the one out by the #1 highway) has a 30 km/h sign when the school is 1/2 block off the main road.
Many daycares put out portable signs of 30 km/h saying school zone.... wonder if that is legal?
There are 30 km/h signs on roads that adjoin school property (fenced in soccer fields) when the entrance is off that road....
The other solution to keeping kids off roads is to supervise them while they are at school.
Speed limits should be increased on well traveled main arteries, 60 to 70 km/h, signs posted to keep right except to pass. When you pass you pass at 30 km/h over the slow car, none of this 5-10 km/h passing, make the pass quickly.
Many daycares put out portable signs of 30 km/h saying school zone.... wonder if that is legal?
There are 30 km/h signs on roads that adjoin school property (fenced in soccer fields) when the entrance is off that road....
The other solution to keeping kids off roads is to supervise them while they are at school.
Speed limits should be increased on well traveled main arteries, 60 to 70 km/h, signs posted to keep right except to pass. When you pass you pass at 30 km/h over the slow car, none of this 5-10 km/h passing, make the pass quickly.
Maybe stay current, the policy has already been successfully implemented in major European cities, New York and areas of Seattle. In Vancouver, the idea is to first implement the speed changes to areas and neighbourhoods which experience high frequency commuter cut through traffic which brings high volumes of car traffic on to low volume designed streets. Most intersections in residential neighborhoods remain unchanged from their original design except that Vancouver abandoned uncontrolled intersections in the 1990s. The concrete sidewalk outside my house is stamped 1906, do you think in 1906 hundreds of cars commuting to the suburbs were cutting off of the congested arterials onto side streets - this wasn't even happening in the 1990s.
60% of traffic related fatalities are pedestrians and cyclists in Vancouver. This is a problem.
It's only a tax on assholes.
After three or four tickets, their vehicle is forfeited and shredded, at their expense.
If you cant spot a photo radar vehicle then you deserve the ticket for outright stupidity.....same goes for intersections that have cameras for both red light infractions as well as speed on green.When you are driving you should be aware of everything and most especially your route.I should know as I do it for a living.
With regards to Traffic fines for City Revenue the CPS Traffic Section has a quota.The quota is 30 tickets per month per member and if the constables fail to make quota they are reprimanded.....it is just another form of taxation.
SR
Of course the registered car owner got the ticket. No way to prove who is driving with photo radar. That’s why it’s a cash grab.
Parking tickets work the same way...the owner gets the ticket...even if you are not driving the car.
Ah but BC used to have photo radar and it was just as much of a cash grab.It was the BC Liberals who got rid of it as an election promise....and they kept the promise.
And before anyone points out my anti Lieberal slant.....the BC Provincial Liberal Party are Liberal in name only.....their policies for the last 15 years were more right wing than the PC's in Alberta after Ralph Klein resigned
over a poor leadership review and we then got saddled with dithering Ed Stelmach and even worse Alison "the red queen" Redford and then put on a collision course to Destination Fucked with the accidental election
of the NDP.
SR
I think if we really want to protect pedestrians and cyclists we need to either 1) Ban driving completely or 2) Ban walking and cycling in public.
