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Jody just blew the Prime Minister out of the water

Mrmotorscooter

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Quite incredible stuff Big respect to her and her integrity she has exposed the rotten Apple Core of Ottawa

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westwoody

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She should be leader and she might win in October.
 

Lo-ki

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Check your closet..:)
Interesting times ahead........
 

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Quite incredible stuff Big respect to her and her integrity she has exposed the rotten Apple Core of Ottawa

Stupid phone won't let me post the link, I'm sure others will comment on this
Trump talked about draining the swamp, and that swamp exists not only in Washington, DC but also in Ottawa. I hope the Liberals lose the next election.
 

Mrmotorscooter

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Trump talked about draining the swamp, and that swamp exists not only in Washington, DC but also in Ottawa. I hope the Liberals lose the next election.
Trump is drowning in his own swamp of bullshit now, ordinary people are just the riff raff along for the ride and to carry the load.
 

MissingOne

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She should be leader and she might win in October.
She is impressive, but we don't really know what sort of policy agenda she might have if she were to become leader. We kinda know where she stands on indigenous issues and legal issues, but otherwise she's rather a blank slate.

It would be fun to elect an indigenous woman Prime Minister. I'd pay money to watch her first meeting with Trump. Let him try to call that woman "Pocahontas" and see how it goes over!
 

Mrmotorscooter

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She is impressive, but we don't really know what sort of policy agenda she might have if she were to become leader. We kinda know where she stands on indigenous issues and legal issues, but otherwise she's rather a blank slate.

It would be fun to elect an indigenous woman Prime Minister. I'd pay money to watch her first meeting with Trump. Let him try to call that woman "Pocahontas" and see how it goes over!
That would be awesome, she never backs down either. All this shit just for jobs for Quebec = Liberal votes, Lavalin even bought Kadafi's son $30,000 worth of hookers to seal the deal. They dont give a shit about jobs for Alberta which employs from all over Canada, SMH!
 

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Sure Jody is honest, did the right thing. But, she just screwed the Liberal PM, and the liberal party hardcores/backbenchers will make her pay in some way. She already stated she has lost the privy council confidence (demotion to Veterans Affairs); so her voice in council was weakened, which is why she quit. Today She told the truth about the circumstances, although no laws were broken; she broke rank with the liberals and the conspiracy of silence in the ranks.

It is politics at the big boy level, she didn't play well enough, now she will pay the price for the rest of her political career for breaking her silence. When you play politics always make your boss out to be the "hero"; don't throw him under the bus. Why?? The Liberal invested time and money into Trudeau, now someone in their own ranks outed the conversation the Privy council had about the SNC lavlin court case.

Think they will forgive her? She basicly gave the next election away. Likely she will never have another cabinet post, if so it would be a minor one, if she got a major one, it would be just before that ministry was about to get hit with a major scandal..... political people are vindictive...

Her political career is gone. She broke the party's trust....
 

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Sure Jody is honest, did the right thing. But, she just screwed the Liberal PM, and the liberal party hardcores/backbenchers will make her pay in some way. She already stated she has lost the privy council confidence (demotion to Veterans Affairs); so her voice in council was weakened, which is why she quit. Today She told the truth about the circumstances, although no laws were broken; she broke rank with the liberals and the conspiracy of silence in the ranks.

It is politics at the big boy level, she didn't play well enough, now she will pay the price for the rest of her political career for breaking her silence. When you play politics always make your boss out to be the "hero"; don't throw him under the bus. Why?? The Liberal invested time and money into Trudeau, now someone in their own ranks outed the conversation the Privy council had about the SNC lavlin court case.

Think they will forgive her? She basicly gave the next election away. Likely she will never have another cabinet post, if so it would be a minor one, if she got a major one, it would be just before that ministry was about to get hit with a major scandal..... political people are vindictive...

Her political career is gone. She broke the party's trust....
No her political career is NOT gone. The NDP will be slaughtered at the polls during the next election. Jagmeet will be toast and they will desperately need someone with name recognition and political experience as leader. She has no future with the Liberals and is a good match philosophically with the NDP. I think rather than the end, this is just the beginning.
 

MissingOne

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No her political career is NOT gone. The NDP will be slaughtered at the polls during the next election. Jagmeet will be toast and they will desperately need someone with name recognition and political experience as leader. She has no future with the Liberals and is a good match philosophically with the NDP. I think rather than the end, this is just the beginning.
Strange, my impression of her is that she's very conservative-minded. Think of the new federal law on drunk driving, that allows the police a great deal of latitude for random intrusion into our vehicles and even our homes. That law was drafted and came into force on her watch, I believe.

I just think that some of us who, like myself, detest Trudeau but would like to be able to vote liberal, are projecting too many hopes onto her, without knowing enough about her real beliefs.
 

Jethro Bodine

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She should be leader and she might win in October.
That would require a major purge of the Liberal Party.
All those Cabinet Ministers and MP's in caucus who stood behind Trudeau during his press conferences the past 2 weeks or criticized her privately or publicly would need to go.
Some leaders might keep them around becasue politicians in general are only loyal to their own interests but she seems like a person of integrity and I doubt she can work along side people who just boned her up the ass.
 

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...The Liberal invested time and money into Trudeau, now someone in their own ranks outed the conversation the Privy council had about the SNC lavlin court case...
Maybe the Liberals will figure out that they wasted time and money on an out of work drama teacher with a name, who isn't even any good at acting.
 

80watts

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What were the timelines on the scandal?

Cabinet shuffle.

Leak of privy council discussion of SNC lavlin pressure going to court/cancelling by the press. Who is the source?? If it wasn't Jody, then the privy council would think that it is her... because of her demotion in portfolios.....

Jody resigns. She lost the confidence of the privy council....

Jody refuses to say anything... seeking lawyer.....

Jody gets permission to speak..... from privy council

Jody bbq inner privy counsel discussions.... newsies explode...



Her proof is indirect proof of pressure of subordinates talking to other subordinates in other departments....

If the privy council decides as a whole/directed by the PM to do certain things, they members of the privy council are to ensure it is done.....they are to carry out the orders of the privy council.....

At no time did the PM direct her to interfer with the law, just to find other solutions..... You know... you know things like: it was an illegal wiretap..... prostitution was legal in Canada in 2012.... etc....

So if she didn't do her job according to the privy council, she got sacked from the justice dept and given a lower portfolio......

So her future is gone with the Liberals, and no other political party will give her the responsibility she had with the liberals, cause once a traitor, always a traitor. Sure if she crosses the floor, the party she goes to does it for political points, but trust her in their inner circles.... only later to get blown out of the water by her.....

Sure she is honest, but she royally fucked herself to prove her innocence, she will be a political pariah; even if her constituents vote her back as a MP, its one riding vs rest of Canada....


My question is does she get a pension out of this.....
 

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Justin Trudeau. A man with his daddy’s name and his mommy’s brain. How stupid are the Libs. Here is a brief explanation. SNC Lavelin is under criminal prosecution under the Corruption of Foreign Publc Official Act. To help them out, in the last budget bill, the Libs slipped in amendments to the Criminal Code allowing for deferred prosecutions. Btw, before he was elected, Justin said he would never use omnibus legislation. The legislation specifically designed to let SNC off the hook states that economic considerations ARE NOT to be taken into account in making a determination whether or not a corporation should be offered a deal. On top of that, the legislation and case law is clear... SNC Lavelin in no way qualifies to be considered for a deferred prosecution. So despite the clear statement in the legislation about not taking economic considerations into account, Justin is saying he raised the issue with Wilson Raybould out of a concern for jobs in Quebec. He doesn’t even understand the law he had passed. Now the Libs are preparing legislation to eliminate the 10 year ban on government contacts that would result if SNC is convicted.

Meanwhile, Justin is preaching to China about the rule of law. He is an embarrassment (remember his trip to India.). On top of that he wil do anything to be re-elected. This is all about votes in Quebec. Whatever happened to his promise of a new way of doing politics. Open and transparent. Justin is nothing more than a lying, sanctimonious hypocrite.
 

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Justin Trudeau. A man with his daddy’s name and his mommy’s brain. How stupid are the Libs. Here is a brief explanation. SNC Lavelin is under criminal prosecution under the Corruption of Foreign Publc Official Act. To help them out, in the last budget bill, the Libs slipped in amendments to the Criminal Code allowing for deferred prosecutions. Btw, before he was elected, Justin said he would never use omnibus legislation. The legislation specifically designed to let SNC off the hook states that economic considerations ARE NOT to be taken into account in making a determination whether or not a corporation should be offered a deal. On top of that, the legislation and case law is clear... SNC Lavelin in no way qualifies to be considered for a deferred prosecution. So despite the clear statement in the legislation about not taking economic considerations into account, Justin is saying he raised the issue with Wilson Raybould out of a concern for jobs in Quebec. He doesn’t even understand the law he had passed. Now the Libs are preparing legislation to eliminate the 10 year ban on government contacts that would result if SNC is convicted.

Meanwhile, Justin is preaching to China about the rule of law. He is an embarrassment (remember his trip to India.). On top of that he wil do anything to be re-elected. This is all about votes in Quebec. Whatever happened to his promise of a new way of doing politics. Open and transparent. Justin is nothing more than a lying, sanctimonious hypocrite.

Ya...but he's got great hair.....:jaw:
 

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Where does federal Canada get off enforcing Canadian law in African Libya? And where is the so called rule-of-law in double jeopardy on SNC Lavalin executives that were picked by and dealt with by Swiss authorities who were handling money transactions between SNC Lavalin and Libya? Would Canada make the charges on SNC Lavalin of wrongly supplying entertainment in brothel legal Nevada? Gaddafi ran a county with medical care, enough food to eat, schools for children and agreement with Italy to keep jihad infested migrants out. That's a lot better than what Libya has become today after Canada partook in an air bombing.
 

rlock

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Good for Wilson-Raybould for sticking to her principles, or at least trying to warn her comrades they were trying to step into a legal minefield. They didn't listen, so KABOOM. They were stupid to ignore her, and stupider for trying to punish her for doing her job correctly.

She's in the wrong party anyways, she should jump ship to the Greens and keep the seat in her own hands.


Trudeau is a lying sack of shit. Canada deserves better than him.

Problem is, the Conservatives are even worse.

If you want to wreck the country, and turn it into a political dictatorship and environmental wasteland, then you can vote for Scheer and the rest of the Harperite yellow vest MAGA mafia.

Trouble is, if you don't want to see Canada flushed down the shitter, and Trudeau and the LibConDP just aren't up to the task of governing, well... as a voter you're kinda fucked.

Jagmeet and the NDP seem to be on the downslope into PC irrelevance, no matter what that Burnaby byelection result was.

The Greens are the only ones who take their own promises seriously and would create a better nation (one that might actually take action to survive, for a start). They'd be my choice. But how much of a leap in popularity would they need? They'd have to quadruple their vote share and get 160 seats more than they have now. Fat chance of that in this crooked First-Past-The-Post voting system.

Who else is there, the Bloc Quebecois? The Peoples Party That Hates Most People? LOL.


No, Trudeau had every opportunity to do better, really to win the 2019 election in a cakewalk. Instead, he fucked himself and his party by getting hung up on minor-league bullshit.
That would be okay, if it was just him and just them going down to defeat. (Political parties are not sacred or eternal.)

Problem is, by squandering his time in office, he left the door open for the pure evil of the Conservatives to return - and that utterly fucks Canada, right into its grave.


I have only pessimism. Trudeau, Singh, Scheer - fuck them all. I'm getting ready for the worst case scenario: Scheermageddon a.k.a. a government that wages war against Canada itself.
 
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