It's a gun 'blog' - not a credible a source, the 'writer' doesn't even meet or interview Spielberg. Your original claim was Spielberg is a gun advocate.
America's Gun Violence Problem Explained in 18 Charts
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The president of the NRA and Trump must feel pretty fuckin' lame after suggesting all it takes is a 'good guy with a gun' or 'arming a teacher' to stop a school shooting. Hours after the NRA president spoke, M. S. Douglas's armed resource police officer resigned from the police force after it was revealed he had responded to the in progress shooting by taking up a position outside of the building while the shooting continued. I guess that didn't work.
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100k means influence? ROLTFLMAO that is hilarious
100K isn't even a 1%er.
As for Rubio here is a cut and paste from the msn article you linked to: "At the town hall, Rubio faced Fred Guttenberg, whose daughter Jamie was murdered during the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting last week, and stood by his opposition to the assault weapons ban."
For further reference watch the entire meeting. Several people gave him the same message: quit kissing the gun lobby's ass and act on behalf of the larger population.
That does not look like he is changing his position. He insists the problem cannot be solved by gun laws.
It is hard to imagine a kid killing 17 people with anything else.
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Yeah that deputy, there are no words for that level of chickenshit.
Trump would have leaped into action, but bone spurs.
I don't call anyone's courage into question, I know we Canucks like to talk tuff but I do remember the god awful Greyhound bus killer, only 1 guy(ex-military if I recall) was willing to try, everyone else bolted. Presented with violence most will curl up, gun or no gun, its kind of why the professionals have to be trained and even then statistically they've shown most wont fire their gun in combat and a lot of cops are proud they have never had to draw their weapon. So knowing that, to intentionally point a gun at numerous humans and pull the trigger and kill them for no valid reason..yes you are a sick mentally ill and likely evil person. I don't like guns, Ive fired them, they are loud, they stink and they have 1 purpose ...to kill. Having said that, a lot of todays violence is still linked to mental illness which is certainly not being addressed. The real problem in the USA is the one thing you just cant get around, the 2nd amendment of the US constitution, which cannot be easily changed under the US amendment process. So the Americans are going to have to attack this horrible issue from another angle and it will take a big change to the way their system works and the issue was there long before any current politician. The USA was born out of violence and sadly I think they'll end that way if they don't get this horror under control.
25% earn MORE than $100K a year. That means it INCLUDES people who earn MORE than that. They have the influence, unless you think the 50% who earn less than $50K a year do.
Go back and read some of my earlier posts. The difference between a so called assault weapon and a non assault weapon is cosmetic and is done just to appease the public.
The classic Canadian example of this is placing the AR15 in the restricted category after the Montreal massacre. Meanwhile, the Mini 14, which was the firearm Lepine used, is to this day, non restricted. How a firearm looks has nothing to do with its performance.
As much as you don't like Rubio's stance. He's probably correct.
If they try and make sweeping changes, get ready to sit back and watch as the American people go gangbusters again and drive gun and ammunition sales to record breaking levels. Happens every few years. There are actually people in the U.S. who stockpile gun parts and ammo when the prices are low and wait for the panic. It's just like playing the stock market, only better odds in your favour.
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Tough talk on the internet. No one knows how they will behave until placed in that situation. Don't know what their level of training is either. There's a huge level of discrepancy in pay and training in U.S. police departments. I can also tell you that when I was in school, they didn't exactly assign the cream of the crop cops to be school liason officers.
Just because you don't think it's a credible source doesn't mean it isn't.
There's also mention of the number of guns owned by Speilberg in a GQ article.
https://www.gq.com/story/shia-labeouf-transformers
http://www.thefield.co.uk/shooting/fabbri-italian-gunmakers-26748
Speilberg is one of the richest men in Hollywood. What makes you think he owns only one or two guns? You don't go out and buy a $60,000 shotgun as your only firearm.
Most people when confronted with extreme violence will shy away from it, particularly if they're not used to it from day to day..So I would have to agree with your comment....I'm not going to judge that cop, nor would I assume what he was doing is either brave, or cowardice.
If.....he was one of the first on the scene, an outside perimeter would have to be established, this is first in tactical combat, when storming a building, with multiple innocents inside.
He may ,or may not have attempted that, but it would take a lot of balls to run into a building, with shots being fired inside, and do it alone....in Afgahnistan ...most of us got our dicks blown off, when your within 5 feet of a door, and you just fucking know ...a white turban is inside.
They have the advantage, they sit and wait gun ready.....and you can't send an explosive charge inside ahead of you, because there may be non- combatants inside with them.
I'm not defending him.....I'm just saying, if your put in that situation, you wait for superior numbers to arrive, and if you decide to storm that building.....no matter who you are, you'll have a few skid marks left in your shorts if you survive it.
First, you called him a gun 'advocate'. Advocate by definition means 'a person who publicly supports or recommends a particular cause or policy' and even in the GQ article it is Shia talking about Steven's gun collection, not Steven. The donation he made publicly to a group seeking gun control, so by definition he is a 'gun control advocate'.
If you are honestly wondering why your first source wasn't credible, take a look through their other 'stories'. And if you can't understand why a blog of a marginal 'journalist' isn't a legitimate source? I am sorry man, but you are part of the 63%.
If you think that Spielberg, who has one of the finest gun collections in California according to Charlton Heston who was amazed when he saw it, does not somehow support the firearms industry, I'd say you are naïve. Heston, by the way, was the former President of the NRA. What's Spielberg doing hanging around with a former NRA President? The fact he is an avid trap shooter, which means he is a member of a gun club and owns hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of firearms and is a NRA member shows support. Most gun owners who shoot at a range have a NRA membership because of the insurance benefits.
Spielberg learned to shoot from his Father, a former air force serviceman who was a sharpshooter. Spielberg has passed on his self described "passion" to his son, Max.
Spielberg is obviously a very smart man who is wisely concerned about his public image. You can support the firearms industry and be sympathetic to victims of crime. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Advocate expressly is defined as publicly supporting - maybe get a dictionary. He publicly donated $500,000 with a statement of support for a group organized with the sole purpose of demanding gun control. He is a gun control advocate.
How he was raised, what he owns, who he associates with is irrelevant.
* I saw what you did there too, changing it to a donation to victims of crime and adding he is a NRA member (the NRA only claims to have 5+ million members, so not every gun owner is a NRA member by default)
How he was raised, what he owns, who he associates with is irrelevant.
* I saw what you did there too, changing it to a donation to victims of crime and adding he is a NRA member (the NRA only claims to have 5+ million members, so not every gun owner is a NRA member by default)
Go back and read some of yesterday's posts. Adding in he is sympathetic to victims of crimes was mentioned yesterday too.
Bottom line is Spielberg supports the firearms industry and the NRA.
Sorry man, read the news stories, read his statement, maybe learn what 'March for Our Lives" is advocating. Restating falsehoods doesn't make them true.
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Trump called the assigned deputy that set up to secure the perimeter a coward.
What a fucking asshole comment.
Typical finger pointing and blame laying- some fucking leader.
How would Trump react if a bunch of un-trained vigilante types charged in and lit the place up- potentially causing more student deaths?
Or any other civilian types?
This would be one of the functions with perimeter security- keep out the well intentioned but potentially dangerous.
I agree with sybian- a lone officer should wait for reinforcements before entering.
And arming teachers?
Another joke of a suggestion.
Not part of the job description.
What's next- concealed carry permits for Student Council and hall monitors?
Control your guns, and try to change your gun culture. Period.
Nut up you red-haired cocksucker, and pull the NRA and hill-billy meat out of your throat and slap down those that hide behind or promote the second amendment to their own selfish designs.
I suggest that those interested actually read the amendment, and the history of it's implementation. Very interesting stuff.
Mostly related to arming a militia where there is no standing army.
And arming the populace to deter tyrannical or oppressive government.
Maybe that would be a better cause for the masses? Stay on your toes, Chump.
What a fucking asshole comment.
Typical finger pointing and blame laying- some fucking leader.
How would Trump react if a bunch of un-trained vigilante types charged in and lit the place up- potentially causing more student deaths?
Or any other civilian types?
This would be one of the functions with perimeter security- keep out the well intentioned but potentially dangerous.
I agree with sybian- a lone officer should wait for reinforcements before entering.
And arming teachers?
Another joke of a suggestion.
Not part of the job description.
What's next- concealed carry permits for Student Council and hall monitors?
Control your guns, and try to change your gun culture. Period.
Nut up you red-haired cocksucker, and pull the NRA and hill-billy meat out of your throat and slap down those that hide behind or promote the second amendment to their own selfish designs.
I suggest that those interested actually read the amendment, and the history of it's implementation. Very interesting stuff.
Mostly related to arming a militia where there is no standing army.
And arming the populace to deter tyrannical or oppressive government.
Maybe that would be a better cause for the masses? Stay on your toes, Chump.
Well said ddcanz.
A good read is the New York Times "What explains US mass shootings? International comparisons suggest an answer". The thesis is that the availability of guns is the only reliable predictor of increased gun violence.
A good read is the New York Times "What explains US mass shootings? International comparisons suggest an answer". The thesis is that the availability of guns is the only reliable predictor of increased gun violence.
#45 got a draft deferments for his 'feet'.
Privileged coward.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html
Privileged coward.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html
It was pointed out to me yesterday via PM from another member here that, since Columbine the perimeter defence tactic has been altered in police combat policies...they are to immediately storm the building.....Not sure if that's true or not, but I have no reason to question it.
Easier said than done IMO.....I have a nice purple scar on my left shoulder from doing that exact thing...it wasn't a high school, but a Taliban held house.
Luckily he was an inbred ,and cross eyed....and thought he had the advantage....
But thanks for the support DD....I figured you'd get my drift.
Maybe the swarthy relation with similar features to a certain red-dog residing south of the line?
