The process of the reference...

[Cami Parker]

Haha you're too kind!

Maybe because you're an international superstar SP he thought the name recognition alone would be enough to impress the other SP.

It's like when I tell girls that I slept with Angelina Jolie *. It makes me irresistible

Like any reference, if you don't get permission/clearance in advance, it eventually hurts more than helps you.


* in the same business class cabin

 

[Cami Parker]

Personally, I don't ask for a reference unless something seems shady

 

[voodooking]

When an sp only prefers to only see a client with a reference I won't even bother to book them.

It probably loses the sp a lot of business by making clients have to jump through hoops to get some time with them.
There are so many great providers available that I just move on.

 

[Aellyn Rose]

Ever considered that those hoops she asks you to jump through are part of her screening process? That she'd rather have less business and have it all be a lovely time, with gents who actually want to be with her?

 

[voodooking]

That is her call to just see her regulars

Resumes are for getting a job not booking an sp.
Asking for a board handle is one thing but asking for past sps that we have visited to contact is ridiculousness.

Ever considered that those hoops she asks you to jump through are part of her screening process? That she'd rather have less business and have it all be a lovely time, with gents who actually want to be with her?

 

[sdw]

Ever considered that those hoops she asks you to jump through are part of her screening process? That she'd rather have less business and have it all be a lovely time, with gents who actually want to be with her?

It's the men that make it through even an arduous screening process that are the danger. I knew a lady that was pretty rigorous with her screening and still one very nasty dude got through.

That's why relying on the memory of another lady who may have only seen the dude once - 18 months ago - isn't as effective as working the way Riza and her friends do at keeping a lady safe.

 

[badbadboy]

K

It's the men that make it through even an arduous screening process that are the danger. I knew a lady that was pretty rigorous with her screening and still one very nasty dude got through.

That's why relying on the memory of another lady who may have only seen the dude once - 18 months ago - isn't as effective as working the way Riza and her friends do at keeping a lady safe.

Yes quite true. I recall one guy booked with P411 and did some very creepy shit to one SP. I used to see her and she was really shaken up by it.

I have no prob asking for references and then supplying them to any SP who asks for them.

Only problem for me is the time lag between replies between myself and a few SP's who are back in University can sometimes be quite long.

There is one SP here who won't see guys without two solid references and it doesn't matter who you are, how many SP's you've seen or the number of posts here; she wants those references from everyone. I get it and agree every SP should have a process for referrals.

I tend to take the path of least resistance and see ladies who know me and don't require references.

 

[Oldfart]

When I wanted to provide a reference to a new provider, I first contacted the woman who knew me the best and asked her if it would give me a reference. She agreed, and I then proceeded to send her contact details to the other woman.

 

[Cami Parker]

I think that's the best way. For me as the person expected to give a reference, I have no problem with it and hope a gent wouldn't be concerned with "hurting my feelings" or such, as such is the nature of the beast. However, it is, in actuality, doing the person. A favor by providing a reference for them (the client, not the lady requesting the reference) that I guess you would just expect them to have the common decency to ask you to do them that favor, and make it less arduous of a task, by doing the leg work and providing you with the info and reminders that you would otherwise have to search for yourself. As for ladies that request references, well that's not really what this thread was initially intended to discuss. While I don't require references while in my base city, Vancouver, I can completely understand why other ladies may, and respect their right to do so.

When I wanted to provide a reference to a new provider, I first contacted the woman who knew me the best and asked her if it would give me a reference. She agreed, and I then proceeded to send her contact details to the other woman.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Recently, I had a reference query from a courtesan in D/FW Texas. While the gentleman did not contact me to ask first, it was a memorable date for several reasons. It happened at the ranch, it was a multi-hour visit, and our conversations about Vancouver Island & CFL vs NFL football. (He's a Rough Riders fan; it's closer to his home state than any NFL city) I was able to give an enthusiastic TWO THUMBS UP! I was also able to make a valuable contact should I decide to tour the Southwest. I have a really good long term memory, and chances are if we've spent more than two hours together, I'll remember your name or your voice. (Something or other interferes with my short term memory...I forget what! ;D)

I also had a request from a guest who'd only seen me once for a 2 hour out call to give him a reference to another local lady (NOT a paid advertiser here, but very well reviewed here!) A reminder of his unusual first name was all it took to recall a rollicking good time with a fascinating man; I would have put up extra thumbs if I had them. Out of the conversation between her & I came what I hope will be a lasting friendship/touring partner & a potential duo partnership for all you cougar lovers!

On my recent trip to Nanaimo, I asked a few inquiries about provider references because of the reputation the city has. If a client tells me he has seen any of the providers with whom I am on a first name basis (two of whom I am on a REAL FIRST NAME basis with) I can guarantee they know the drill; that they are safe & respectful! Of course, if a gentleman makes me his 2016 New Year's Resolution on a review board, I know he'll treat me right! That's all I'm looking for in a reference; is this client SAFE & reliable?

 

[hankmoody]

(Something or other interferes with my short term memory...I forget what! ;D)

Haha that's funny

 

[bmwdriver]

In my professional life the process of references works as cami suggests. People need to request from me that I serve as a reference. I would not respond to a person who called me and stated that an individual asked that I be a reference unless I had agreed to serve in that way.

As an aside, I am more in line with MM that if a lady requires a reference I would probably move on as it is a bit more effort than I wish to go through.

I don't think these references are the same type as a work reference. I would assume that the lady requesting a reference is more concerned with safety, and whether or not the potential client is a time-waster or limit pusher.
If I was giving a an sp as a reference, I would contact them to let them know, and would also remind them who I was. Even someone like Cami, whom I've seen more than once, I would remind when I last saw them. Otherwise, you force them to waste their time trying to remember who you are.
We all like to think we're special, but at the end of the day, we're just one of many.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

I don't think these references are the same type as a work reference. I would assume that the lady requesting a reference is more concerned with safety, and whether or not the potential client is a time-waster or limit pusher.
If I was giving a an sp as a reference, I would contact them to let them know, and would also remind them who I was. Even someone like Cami, whom I've seen more than once, I would remind when I last saw them. Otherwise, you force them to waste their time trying to remember who you are.
We all like to think we're special, but at the end of the day, we're just one of many.

THIS especially. Time wasters are easy enough to spot & dismiss. Limit pushers are another kettle of fish. I have one client on my permanent blacklist for exactly this reason. Wants extra services for less than anyone else would pay for less services. Thinks he's good looking & charming, talks about how clean he is, but his body odor says differently. He gets off on negotiating & pushing limits, and I just won't ever see him again.

 

[PierreCoeur]

I need a reference, but it isn't what you're thinking.

 

[newatit]

In my fifty years in this game I have never supplied a reference but I have heard that the gals have discussed me favourably at their occasional gatherings where it seems they discover clients in common. Maybe that's why I seldom get asked. I also tend to be discriminate and devoted to a one only supplier as it leads to a warmer more satisfying long term relationship. So on the odd occasion when I decide to see some else asking the current sp for a reference to a new sp feels like asking a wife instead. Nope not in the reference game but in this world of cops and robbers I do understand it. And no issues for those who need it. I just can't get into the complications of arranging it.

 

[Cami Parker]

Don't worry....
You don't need to remind me who you are lol

I don't think these references are the same type as a work reference. I would assume that the lady requesting a reference is more concerned with safety, and whether or not the potential client is a time-waster or limit pusher.
If I was giving a an sp as a reference, I would contact them to let them know, and would also remind them who I was. Even someone like Cami, whom I've seen more than once, I would remind when I last saw them. Otherwise, you force them to waste their time trying to remember who you are.
We all like to think we're special, but at the end of the day, we're just one of many.

 

[Cami Parker]

On my recent trip to Nanaimo, I asked a few inquiries about provider references because of the reputation the city has

Is it scary there?

 

[Atticus]

It is best if the guy warns you first. It could be his significant other trying to find out if he has been fooling around.

 

[epicurean604]

Cami I agree with you one hundred percent. I would never offer a reference without clearing with the SP in question first. I think it's only fair and respectful. On the same note, I generally won't book with an SP if she requires a reference. That's is my choice, just like its her's to request one.

 

[CanineCowboy]

I was surprised recently when I provided a well known and well reviewed high end local escort with the name of another well known and well reviewed high end local escort as a reference. She declined saying she doesn't accept references from my reference.