Why do SPs charge so much in BC?

[violetblake]

A long time ago well before the age of the internet a fun time with an SP for an hour was $100
SR

I think it's great we have a range of prices and services here in Vancouver, so that way an SP can charge what she feels comfortable, and a pooner can pay what he feels comfortable. But in response to your point, if we're talking before the internet, that's at least 10-15 years ago. Find something that has stayed the same price since then, lol. Inflation, and particularly the ridiculous price of rent here in BC, has left SPs no other choice than to raise rates. It's simple economics. But like I said, if you have a price range in mind, that's totally cool, there's a lot to choose from here in Vancouver, so everybody does end up getting what they want if they look for it. But to say that SPs should keep their prices the same over decades while absolutely everything else rises in price makes no sense whatsoever, lol.

 

[Pillowtalk]

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A long time ago well before the age of the internet a fun time with an SP for an hour was $100....and I wont split hairs about GFE
SR

And where was that exactly? Because, afaik, in Vancouver the rate for an sp for full service was much more than 100, and lets' split the GFE hair, because there wasn't any. I agree about the price wasnt't for an hour (I doubt anyone promised times in those day, just service). I think time was used as a code for the service when people didn't know they could talk about it on the phone, you really only found out the rates in person. There wouldn't be that many places you would get full service at 100 bucks tho, unless you talk low track, and no one here except lenny has been doing that. And no one would say the lt rate is high, when it seems their rates have dropped over the years, not risen.


The internet made it easier for amatuers to enter the business, and with them a completely untrained and unprofessional attitude, including price cutting and extreme services, mostly because no one taught them about safer sex and no one will beat them senseless for undercutting the high rate sps, as they used to do in those good old pre internet days with all the sps being SWs. I prefer the post internet days, but it doesn't mean that things have improved for either side. Mostly, sps now do more for less.

 

[Smilf]

And where was that exactly? Because, afaik, in Vancouver the rate for an sp for full service was much more than 100, and lets' split the GFE hair, because there wasn't any. I agree about the price wasnt't for an hour (I doubt anyone promised times in those day, just service). I think time was used as a code for the service when people didn't know they could talk about it on the phone, you really only found out the rates in person. There wouldn't be that many places you would get full service at 100 bucks tho, unless you talk low track, and no one here except lenny has been doing that. And no one would say the lt rate is high, when it seems their rates have dropped over the years, not risen.


The internet made it easier for amatuers to enter the business, and with them a completely untrained and unprofessional attitude, including price cutting and extreme services, mostly because no one taught them about safer sex and no one will beat them senseless for undercutting the high rate sps, as they used to do in those good old pre internet days with all the sps being SWs. I prefer the post internet days, but it doesn't mean that things have improved for either side. Mostly, sps now do more for less.

Well I don't know what SP's or SW's he was seeing, but considering I worked as both OVER 20 years ago in Calgary, I don't recall any ladies charging $100 even on low track. Min for me was $150 per session PLUS tips, no GFE, no BB, No greek, you got half and half and that was it. I don't know what guys are complaining about rates for, back then none of the services that are available now were available, we didn't stay the hour either and the guy paid for the hotel 99% of the time, because there was no such thing as in calls.

$150 - plus tips, usually an extra $150, plus taxi or driver fee ($40/$50), plus hotel $120/$150 = $460 and up for however long I chose to stay.

 

[sevenofnine]

you think its to expensive then don't pay.

nobody is making you,

fact is when your horny, you don't think straight
fact is when your in need, its worth every penny.

there was an article in the paper today,
it went something like have sex weekly i think in stead of bi weekly,
and your happiness increases. its the same as if you made an extra fifty k a year.

i thought it was funny if your paying for sex. your wallet might go down and extra fifty k a year,
some what of an over statement.

i dunno,
i paid alot of money, saw some one regular, every couple of weeks, for dinner dates.
cost me alot, for like two or three years. every two weeks.
so its only money,
she put a smile on my face, made me happy,
i had alot of issues, i wasn't a happy camper.

actually i was a very angry guy bitter and angry
i was so fucking angry i felt sorry for anyone that might get in my way,
never had a fight, was scared to, was scared that i would hurt some one and i would end up in jail for a very long time.
i was that fucking angry.

i saw an sp regualarlly for the last two or three, years, had sex regularrlly
talked out my issues about my father going to jail with her, talked about alot of stuff with this lady, used her as therapy, she listened she didn't judge, all over a bottle or two of wine, supper maybe,
then we had sex.

i was headed for divorce, i was just so bitter and angry, i was destroying everything.

i dunno
but im not angry any more.
not a fucking thing to be angry about.
i thank the lady i saw, she just listened. and let me talk then we had sex.

worth every penny,

i don't know what im trying to say
but if it isn't worth it to you then don't pay
spend your money else where.

 

[princeofdarkness]

IMHO, most SPs do not charge so much in BC.

There's a price to pay for everything. Perhaps finding that affordable gem is part of the fun.
Do you want a Lada or a Lamborghini Aventador? Ok, that may be a little extreme but it's all relative isn't it?
Personal tastes, finances and risks all play a part of it.

Simply put an end to the whining wanking and move onwards and upwards.
Yes, it's that easy.

Peace.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

Well I don't know what SP's or SW's he was seeing, but considering I worked as both OVER 20 years ago in Calgary, I don't recall any ladies charging $100 even on low track. Min for me was $150 per session PLUS tips, no GFE, no BB, No greek, you got half and half and that was it. I don't know what guys are complaining about rates for, back then none of the services that are available now were available, we didn't stay the hour either and the guy paid for the hotel 99% of the time, because there was no such thing as in calls.

$150 - plus tips, usually an extra $150, plus taxi or driver fee ($40/$50), plus hotel $120/$150 = $460 and up for however long I chose to stay.

1992 - vancouver: $120 incall, full hour +, all the acronyms, lovin' gfe good time, bbbj, 21 year old hottie that worked out in the gym every day

 

[joe45]

so where in canada would a going pooing or see a SP be cheaper than in vancouver and how cheap
calgary, edmonton, TO,.....etc

 

[doctorkoma]

Come to Edmonton. Everyone here thinks 300 is the going rate.
Must be all the overpaid oil workers

 

[Highliner]

Because they Can

 

[vancity_cowboy]

so where in canada would a going pooing or see a SP be cheaper than in vancouver and how cheap
calgary, edmonton, TO,.....etc

montreal for sure. top class ass for $150 to $200/non-rushed hour. i don't think the french even have a word for covered bj, and all the ones i've seen are very good looking

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

montreal for sure. top class ass for $150 to $200/non-rushed hour. i don't think the french even have a word for covered bj, and all the ones i've seen are very good looking

Until fairly recently I got $160/hr action all day and night long with some incredible women delivered to my hotel room.

 

[Phil da Shill]

One thing I'm not liking about this thread. Vancouver and B.C. are lumped together like they're the same thing. They're not. For instance, I find I get a much better bang for my buck in Victoria. Surely there much be other parts of the province where you can get better pricing than in Vancouver. Then again, lotsa places outside Vancouver you should avoid.

 

[BallzDeep]

Until fairly recently I got $160/hr action all day and night long with some incredible women delivered to my hotel room.

and out of the 160, how much do you figure the girls making? 100? after agency, booking, driver, etc fees.

so in short we have hot amazing french canadian hotties willing to please for $100 on the hour (their cut), and pillowtalk arguing that its impossible to find anyone doing $100 calls unless theyre girls lenny sees on lowtrack (what a naïve outlook).

what has ruined vancouver are the pimps and middle-men. i blame them. not the women.

 

[macan]

what has ruined vancouver are the pimps and middle-men. i blame them. not the women.

I blame us, the retards for paying the prices. If we were not ready to pay the higher rates the prices would have to come down. So next time you ask yourself why are the rates so high, look in the mirror.

 

[Caramel]

I blame us, the retards for paying the prices. If we were not ready to pay the higher rates the prices would have to come down. So next time you ask yourself why are the rates so high, look in the mirror.

I think if prices went too low, there would be less women in the business, and so a lot less variety. There would be no incentive for making $100/hour or less to have sex with a complete stranger for a whole hour doing it MSOG and all that, and say that $100 was all they made that day because a lot of providers are very low volume regardless of their rates...they could be making almost the same amount working at mcdonalds or a call centre.

And like everyone else has already stated, living costs in Vancouver and the lower mainland are really high, so it makes sense the current rates are what they are now.

Anyway the responses to this thread really hit the nail on the head, no point in beating a dead horse!

 

[BallzDeep]

I think if prices went too low, there would be less women in the business, and so a lot less variety. There would be no incentive for making $100/hour or less to have sex with a complete stranger for a whole hour doing it MSOG and all that, and say that $100 was all they made that day because a lot of providers are very low volume regardless of their rates...they could be making almost the same amount working at mcdonalds or a call centre.

And like everyone else has already stated, living costs in Vancouver and the lower mainland are really high, so it makes sense the current rates are what they are now.

Anyway the responses to this thread really hit the nail on the head, no point in beating a dead horse!

i think vancouver has little variety as it stands. i would gladly swap the amp scene here for the hot eastern euro-block women that seem to be elsewhere.

youre nuts if you think a hot woman here would be dead and slow if she charged $100/hr. the avg montreal outcall agency girl clears 5-700/shift, in cash.

ill say it again, i blame the pimps and pushers for their greedy gouging here. $300/hr isnt really $300/hr when the girl walks away with $160. all that tells me is a) girl is willing to work for $160, and b) im paying $140 (in this example) too much into somebody elses pockets. yes the guys foolishly pay these rates, but it starts somewhere. this is sorta one of those what came first chicken or the egg? indy girls see if a guys willing to spend $325 at the fox den for example that he can and should easily pay me $3-350. difference is the indy girl keeps more of that money than the fox girl does but its how the viscious cycle starts.

theres a certain group im sure youve all seen the ones ending in hotmail.com or .ca with starting rates of $225/hh and $350/hr. crazy. new girls, no reviews, no history. girl makes substantially less of course, and she will be slow. well blame her goon pimp.

 

[Caramel]

i think vancouver has little variety as it stands. i would gladly swap the amp scene here for the hot eastern euro-block women that seem to be elsewhere.

youre nuts if you think a hot woman here would be dead and slow if she charged $100/hr. the avg montreal outcall agency girl clears 5-700/shift, in cash.

ill say it again, i blame the pimps and pushers for their greedy gouging here. $300/hr isnt really $300/hr when the girl walks away with $160. all that tells me is a) girl is willing to work for $160, and b) im paying $140 (in this example) too much into somebody elses pockets. yes the guys foolishly pay these rates, but it starts somewhere. this is sorta one of those what came first chicken or the egg? indy girls see if a guys willing to spend $325 at the fox den for example that he can and should easily pay me $3-350. difference is the indy girl keeps more of that money than the fox girl does but its how the viscious cycle starts.

theres a certain group im sure youve all seen the ones ending in hotmail.com or .ca with starting rates of $225/hh and $350/hr. crazy. new girls, no reviews, no history. girl makes substantially less of course, and she will be slow. well blame her goon pimp.

I didn't say their business was dead and slow, I mean girls who choose to be low volume and only choose to see one client...lets say for example $250-$350/hour is unheard of, just like an average sp charging $500-$700/hour is unheard of around here, so the SP would be forced to charge only $80 or $100 or something like that, and she chooses to be low volume OR because 100 would be considered a high end rate so it ends up being slow...she would be making the same amount of money a call centre worker makes in an 8 hour shift, so obviously there would be no incentive besides the fact that they can sit around/sleep all day after 1 hour of work.

And those hotmail girls charging that much sound like perb advertiser copycats. A lot of the high end courtesans on perb require e-mail contact only and charge rates in that range.

 

[huggzy]

lol!! I love it when people say that its the cost of living in Vancouver that pushes up prices! haha. Of course that's not the reason at all one iota.

If an SP can get $300/hr, she's going to charge $300/hr - regardless of what her rent is. If she can get $400/hr she will charge it. She will charge whatever rate she can get as long as it maximizes her revenue given the level of time and effort she wants to put into the business.

Anyone who says that "its the cost of living that drives up prices" is cracked out and hardly understands economics. If a $500/hr escort is getting rent for free she's still going to charge the same rate.

 

[BallzDeep]

lol!! I love it when people say that its the cost of living in Vancouver that pushes up prices! haha. Of course that's not the reason at all one iota.

If an SP can get $300/hr, she's going to charge $300/hr - regardless of what her rent is. If she can get $400/hr she will charge it. She will charge whatever rate she can get as long as it maximizes her revenue given the level of time and effort she wants to put into the business.

Anyone who says that "its the cost of living that drives up prices" is cracked out and hardly understands economics. If a $500/hr escort is getting rent for free she's still going to charge the same rate.

i agree fully. its the lamest excuse in the book. even if that were a factor, for arguments sake, rent/housing is predominantly the only factor thats more expensive in vancouver. but is it 100% more expensive than the rest of the country? hell no. car insurance is more expensive in toronto, especially in certain districts. do you see them charging twice the price because of that? lol nope.

 

[thehedonist]

Try getting laid for free in Vancouver, and you'll understand why sp's can charge so much. My success rate must be like 1/1000. And I'm young with a good body.