Is it really this bad? (SP life)

[Orifice]

Came across this:

http://www.burnabynow.com/news/told+have+walk+away/4079350/story.html

Firstly,

Holy shit those tatas!

Secondly,

Is it really that bad for SP's? I thought, streetwalkers aside, most SP's (especially those with DT condos), kinda think of it as just a job for them, a way to make quick cash and pay for a certain level of lifestyle they wouldn't otherwise be able to afford. This woman says 85% of them are addicts or are forced to by pimps?

Kinda makes me feel a bit guilty... erm...

 

[Cock Throppled]

Tits or not- that's a dude.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I think that used to be more common. I know that that is not the way it is for me and my friends

She shouldn't frown so much. Her face is going to freeze like that.

 

[leoghaire]

i may not be a math whiz but if the average age of entry into the industry is 14-16 and 44% are under 18 when they enter the industry... I don't think those numbers add up, so, yeah , i think she is just making numbers up on the spot. But most people who are appalled by the very idea of someone selling sex isn't going to think about the numbers but are just going to scream "see- I told you that prostitution is pure evil"
second point that just came to me-isn't she one of those people who are forcing men, women and children into these dangerous situations by her own actions?
some people really need to be questioning people like that about how they came up with their numbers.

 

[luvsdaty]

i've pooned over 20 years, you'd be surprised how many girls use(either drugs or booze). I've also became friends of a lot of current & former sp's, most of them say they just put there minds in a different place when there with a client. Seriously, i don't blame them if they gotta put a 50 year old guys dick in there mouth & there young enough to be there daughter.

 

[Bad Santa]

If you ever really looked into where these "anti-prostitution" propagandists are getting their "so-called" statistics, yeah, they're poppin them right out of their diarrhoea spewing asses! Maybe that's how God talks to them.

Probably a sight not worth seeing!

 

[Mr.Boggo]

Without looking at the numbers, it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of SPs did go into "robot" mode.

I've talked to some SPs, and while not all of them have had horror stories yet, some say that they get about one asshole client a week. A lot of the ones I've talked with say that there goal is to make their money now and retire in a few years. Than again, if I could retire in a few years, I would too, but my job consists of a lot of sitting around.

 

[Bad Santa]

i've pooned over 20 years, you'd be surprised how many girls use(either drugs or booze). I've also became friends of a lot of current & former sp's, most of them say they just put there minds in a different place when there with a client. Seriously, i don't blame them if they gotta put a 50 year old guys dick in there mouth & there young enough to be there daughter.

Hey dude, most SPs are between 20 and 35 years old. I would say the majority of people in that age group drink booze or use drugs.

I agree, an SP's job is not always great but many of their clients are actually nice guys. It's all about attitude as with any job. Have a good attitude toward your job and you're more likely to enjoy it. If you really hate your job that much, well do something else.

That former madame didn't mind taking her client's money and exploiting the drug addicted girls working for her. She tries to justify it by saying she used the money in a child custody case to get her kids back. I guess the father didn't have the same option of making money in the sex trade and couldn't afford the expensive lawyers the trade gave her the opportunity to hire. And now she has the audacity to dump all over the very profession that helped her get her sons back.

Now suddenly she's a Christian so she can pontificate to the rest of us sinners. Funny how these "self-righteous" Christians find it so easy to tell the rest of us all the things we are doing wrong yet have no problem overlooking and justifying their own sins!

 

[live.and.learn]

I would think that most of those stats are referring to ladies on the street.

Please take my following perspective and bad grammar respectfully-

I am a former escort and will honestly say I hated it most of the time. It isn't for everybody, and certaintly wasn't for me. A former "friend" had convinced me that she was 'happy' and living this great lifestyle where she didnt have to really work. This friend would flash around all this money she had to do wonderful superficial things I thought seemed pretty great at the time. Soo I tried it and got trapped by the money... money- the real reason 100% of us do it.

It was a never ending cycle for myself. Basically sleep with someone who is your fathers age or older all day, dealing with some extremely rude individuals who treat you like you are the scum of the earth (some clients were nice though)..the list goes on. After my wonderful day of sleeping with men twice my age, I'd go spend all the money away on stupid things (including drugs and alcohol) because I'd feel so bad about what I was doing with yourself. My work ethic went to shit, my self esteem went to the bottom & I destroyed relationships with friends and family because I was ashamed and paranoid of them finding out.

I will say that I met some great friends and had some great clients though. I have worked independently and through agencies.. I will say that most of the ladies I had come across had issues with sexual abuse (as well as myself), poor relationships with men, strong problems with drugs and alcohol (even in an advertised "drug free agency" I had worked for) and mental health issues- depression.

I do know there are a small percentage of ladies who say they do truly love their job and I don't doubt them.

Please don't tear me apart on here. I am sure there are some ladies who will agree with my situation, but would never post that on here because that would be bad advertising.

After seperating myself from that lovely friend who introduced me to a world of shit(my own opinion of course), I was able to eventually get out for good. I'm working in the real world, back to being myself, and finally in a loving relationship...couldn't ask for anything else.

 

[myselftheother]

I would think that most of those stats are referring to ladies on the street.

Please take my following perspective and bad grammar respectfully-

I am a former escort and will honestly say I hated it most of the time. It isn't for everybody, and certaintly wasn't for me. A former "friend" had convinced me that she was 'happy' and living this great lifestyle where she didnt have to really work. This friend would flash around all this money she had to do wonderful superficial things I thought seemed pretty great at the time. Soo I tried it and got trapped by the money... money- the real reason 100% of us do it.

It was a never ending cycle for myself. Basically sleep with someone who is your fathers age or older all day, dealing with some extremely rude individuals who treat you like you are the scum of the earth (some clients were nice though)..the list goes on. After my wonderful day of sleeping with men twice my age, I'd go spend all the money away on stupid things (including drugs and alcohol) because I'd feel so bad about what I was doing with yourself. My work ethic went to shit, my self esteem went to the bottom & I destroyed relationships with friends and family because I was ashamed and paranoid of them finding out.

I will say that I met some great friends and had some great clients though. I have worked independently and through agencies.. I will say that most of the ladies I had come across had issues with sexual abuse (as well as myself), poor relationships with men, strong problems with drugs and alcohol (even in an advertised "drug free agency" I had worked for) and mental health issues- depression.

I do know there are a small percentage of ladies who say they do truly love their job and I don't doubt them.

Please don't tear me apart on here. I am sure there are some ladies who will agree with my situation, but would never post that on here because that would be bad advertising.

After seperating myself from that lovely friend who introduced me to a world of shit(my own opinion of course), I was able to eventually get out for good. I'm working in the real world, back to being myself, and finally in a loving relationship...couldn't ask for anything else.

I hope you can answer my question that I ask with all due respect....

If this industry was so demoralizing, damaging and horrible, why do you have an account on Perb? If you were so tramatized, what are you doing on an escort review site if you're out for good, with a loving relationship, new life and all?

 

[Bad Santa]

I would think that most of those stats are referring to ladies on the street.

Please take my following perspective and bad grammar respectfully-

I am a former escort and will honestly say I hated it most of the time. It isn't for everybody, and certaintly wasn't for me. A former "friend" had convinced me that she was 'happy' and living this great lifestyle where she didnt have to really work. This friend would flash around all this money she had to do wonderful superficial things I thought seemed pretty great at the time. Soo I tried it and got trapped by the money... money- the real reason 100% of us do it.

It was a never ending cycle for myself. Basically sleep with someone who is your fathers age or older all day, dealing with some extremely rude individuals who treat you like you are the scum of the earth (some clients were nice though)..the list goes on. After my wonderful day of sleeping with men twice my age, I'd go spend all the money away on stupid things (including drugs and alcohol) because I'd feel so bad about what I was doing with yourself. My work ethic went to shit, my self esteem went to the bottom & I destroyed relationships with friends and family because I was ashamed and paranoid of them finding out.

I will say that I met some great friends and had some great clients though. I have worked independently and through agencies.. I will say that most of the ladies I had come across had issues with sexual abuse (as well as myself), poor relationships with men, strong problems with drugs and alcohol (even in an advertised "drug free agency" I had worked for) and mental health issues- depression.

I do know there are a small percentage of ladies who say they do truly love their job and I don't doubt them.

Please don't tear me apart on here. I am sure there are some ladies who will agree with my situation, but would never post that on here because that would be bad advertising.

After seperating myself from that lovely friend who introduced me to a world of shit(my own opinion of course), I was able to eventually get out for good. I'm working in the real world, back to being myself, and finally in a loving relationship...couldn't ask for anything else.

Live.And.Learn, thank you for your far more honest and fair description of your time working as an SP. And congratulations on getting out of a job you hated. And thank you for also conceding that there are good clients and there are ladies out there who genuinely enjoy the job of giving pleasure.

Any job that involves physical contact with another human being is not always "nice". Witness the very difficult job many health care workers have to do changing elderly patients diapers and bedpans, etc. And many of these patients can be very cranky just like the jerk customers you had.

But some people actually enjoy doing this work inspite of the bad experiences. There are some people that just like to help others.

And what is wrong with a profession that involves giving pleasure to another human being? I have loved prostitutes all my life for the pleasure they have given me! I don't begrudge one penny I've given to any of them. They have made my life immeasurably richer! I think being an SP is one of the most honorable professions there is. Yes it's a difficult job. But that makes me all the more thankful to the beautiful women who take up this trade!

If society would change it's attitude toward the trade, I think more of the women working in it would have higher self esteem and be happier doing what they do!

 

[Bad Santa]

I hope you can answer my question that I ask with all due respect....

If this industry was so demoralizing, damaging and horrible, why do you have an account on Perb? If you were so tramatized, what are you doing on an escort review site if you're out for good, with a loving relationship, new life and all?

With all due respect, Myselftheother, I don't think that's a fair question to her. Just because she's no longer working in the business doesn't mean she can't still have an interest in it. It was a big part of her life. Why shouldn't she still be interested in the friends and relationships she had when working and check out PERB to see what's happening with people she knew from that part of her life?

 

[Harmony-bc]

With all due respect, Myselftheother, I don't think that's a fair question to her. Just because she's no longer working in the business doesn't mean she can't still have an interest in it. It was a big part of her life. Why shouldn't she still be interested in the friends and relationships she had when working and check out PERB to see what's happening with people she knew from that part of her life?

That's what I thought when I read his post. If I retired, I would probably still have an account on here and read posts, maybe pm a few old friends, see whats going on with the community, etc. This place is much more than just advertising and reviews.



In ancient times, there were religions that accepted and some even worshiped prostitutes. I used to have quite a few books on different religions, but now I rely on google, lol, which is great because that would be a lot of typing to manually type whole paragraphs, when I can cut and paste, lol

Anyways this is a few excerpts taken from wikipedia. I could probably find a better resource than wikipedia but I think wikipedia is pretty awesome and it always comes up on the first page, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_prostitution

In the Ancient Near East along the Tigris and Euphrates rivers there were many shrines and temples or "houses of heaven" dedicated to various deities documented by the Ancient Greek historian Herodotus in The Histories where sacred prostitution was a common practice. According to Samuel Noah Kramer in The Sacred Marriage Rite, in late Sumerian history kings established their legitimacy by taking part in the ceremony in the temple for one night, on the tenth day of the New Year festival Akitu. It came to an end when the emperor Constantine in the fourth century AD destroyed the goddess temples and replaced them with Christianity


The ancient texts celebrate the sacred nature of human sexuality.[11] The Song of Songs is a book of the Hebrew Bible that explores an important religious dimension to sexuality, the love between a man and woman who are not married.[12] In the Hebrew Zohar there were four fallen angels of prostitution, the wives of archangel Samael. They were Lilith, Eisheth Zenunim, Agrat Bat Mahlat and Naamah. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, priestess Shamhat tames wild Enkidu after "six days and seven nights." The Hindu Tantras integrate sexuality into spiritual practice

In Mesopotamian mythology, Lilitû is called the handmaiden of the goddess Inanna or "hand of Inanna." The Sumerian texts state that "Inanna has sent the beautiful, unmarried, and seductive prostitute Lilitû out into the fields and streets in order to lead men astray." That is why Lilitû is called the "hand of Inanna."[18][19] Babylonian texts depict Lilith as the sacred prostitute of the goddess Ishtar, the Assyrian and Babylonian counterpart to the Sumerian Inanna.

There are many instances of surviving visual representations in Christian churches and cathedrals that are difficult to explain using Christian theology. One such example is the Sheela na Gig, a stone carving found in Romanesque Christian churches scattered throughout Europe. The figures are found in Ireland, Great Britain, France, Spain, Switzerland, Norway, Belgium and in the Czech Republic. They are figurative carvings of naked women displaying an exaggerated vulva. It is said that they are there to keep evil spirits away (see apotropaic magic). They are often positioned over doors or windows, presumably to protect these openings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meretrix

In ancient Rome, registered prostitutes were called meretrices while the unregistered ones fell under the broad category prostibulae.

A meretrix, in Medieval Europe, was understood as any woman held in common, who “turned no one away.” It was generally understood that money would be involved in this transaction, but it didn’t have to be. A prostitute was reckoned differently in Medieval Europe than it is today, and accepting money for sex acts was not the single most common indicator for the legal status of being a meretrix, being a woman who engaged in sex with more than one man was. It has been argued that Meretrix in the medieval mindset is closer to our modern understanding of a sexual orientation[citation needed].

Whorehouses were often hotels[citation needed], the best restaurants in town[citation needed], and places for good music and conversation, in which the women were taught how to entertain. In the banquets of nobility, these women would come in as entertainers in many instances. In Paris the prostitutes had a guild.




Prostitution is as old as time. In a perfect world we could all be proud of it and people would respect it.

If you hate it, then hopefully, you can quit before it destroys you. I find working 9 to 5 destroys me. I need to be free. I need to breathe.

It is our religious based training of the last few years that make this dirtier than it needs to be. I have always been a little slutty. I prefer to sell my sex rather than give it away for free. I love attention and compliments. I also love orgasms. I think this job is great for some and horrible for others. There are some women that are just lots of fun inside and are complete hedonists.

The hardest part about this job is having to lie to people about what you do. I find it really annoying that every time one of my friends dates, I have to lie about almost everything, just because they're ashamed [not me, themselves]. Yes money is fun, and I love money, and I probably wouldn't do this if the money was bad, but not because of the sex or the orgasms. Just because of societies reaction to it, having to lie, and sneak. The trade off wouldn't be enough. Until society is more accepting of it, then money will be the draw and why women stay and why some women will end up hating themselves and the trade but stay anyway. I hate being judged for something that is supposed to be fun. I also hate being lumped into the same category as others.

 

[myselftheother]

With all due respect, Myselftheother, I don't think that's a fair question to her. Just because she's no longer working in the business doesn't mean she can't still have an interest in it. It was a big part of her life. Why shouldn't she still be interested in the friends and relationships she had when working and check out PERB to see what's happening with people she knew from that part of her life?

Fair enough answer, to be sure. I'm sure she's still interested in the biz, what goes on with who, and still has friends who are Sp's. Why I asked that question is to find out why she's on a site like this if her experience was a very tramatic experience, that's all. Wasn't meaning anything with malicious intent, I just really wanted to know.

 

[InTheBum]

I hate these..."Feel Sorry For ME" stories...I was working in Prostitution...making $1700 a day...Booo Hooo...

Why doesn't she work 3 jobs and make $1700 a week like normal people? Because she is lazy...

She looks like bitch...pure and simple...

 

[steverino]

My experience in Victoria leads me to conclude that many of the ladies are less the wild partiers and more the single moms. The wages, hours and working conditions while not perfect, and in some cases far from it, often make the most sense from a lifestyle perspective.

 

[badbadboy]

I didn't see a source of the stats. Without a legit source, she can say anything she wants I guess.

Anytime I read "Christian" I also do not find what they have to say as believable either. That whole Born Again thing doesn't mean a thing to me.

 

[Fractals]

IF it's a well-researched book the source of the stats would be listed there. I guess the author wants people to buy the book first, which is a good business strategy for her.

Anyway, the author's stats indicate that not all who enter this industry will frequently deal with the hazards of the trade. If her stats are reliable, there will be the top 10 to 30%, the cream of the crop, who were not forced into the trade and who will most likely flourish. The rest will probably "perish". Maybe those who wish to exit the trade should be given a way out while those who wish to stay should also be given the protection to flourish.

 

[maroonedsailor]

Came across this:

http://www.burnabynow.com/news/told+have+walk+away/4079350/story.html

Firstly,

Holy shit those tatas!

Secondly,

Is it really that bad for SP's? I thought, streetwalkers aside, most SP's (especially those with DT condos), kinda think of it as just a job for them, a way to make quick cash and pay for a certain level of lifestyle they wouldn't otherwise be able to afford. This woman says 85% of them are addicts or are forced to by pimps?

Kinda makes me feel a bit guilty... erm...

Gee is it possible that a woman who exploits anyone she comes in contact with to accomplish her own ends and justifies it with a need to compete with a "controlling, much wealthier husband" for custody of her children when in all likelyhood she could have accomplished shared custody for a fraction of the cost, would write a book of drivel to line her own pockets once again? All she is doing is continuing to exploit the women and men she unashamedly exploited before. The Christian right thinks this is a good thing because she says the word Christian and claims to have "seen the light". It seems to me that the only light this woman has ever seen is the one over the teller counter at the bank. I think Christ would puke to see his name so abused.

 

[maroonedsailor]

IF it's a well-researched book the source of the stats would be listed there. I guess the author wants people to buy the book first, which is a good business strategy for her.

Anyway, the author's stats indicate that not all who enter this industry will frequently deal with the hazards of the trade. If her stats are reliable, there will be the top 10 to 30%, the cream of the crop, who were not forced into the trade and who will most likely flourish. The rest will probably "perish". Maybe those who wish to exit the trade should be given a way out while those who wish to stay should also be given the protection to flourish.

Good, common sense approach - I don't think that fining a SW 1500 or so and then expecting her to work at Wallyworld to pay the fine is accomplishing very much in the way of an exit strategy from the biz. I've said before and continue to say that the Judge (and the society that hires him/her) is a pimp. It's the same thinking that goes with the anti abortion crowd. I say cool - as long as you stand in line to adopt the little wonders whose mothers don't want/can't afford/are drug and alcohol addicted, etc. Walk the talk - end rant.