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How important are facial features to you? Does it make or break the deal for you?

Papa Chongo

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So Perbites, maybe this has been addressed before but I had occasion to go see an SP, she had a fantastic little body, and her pics were great, but upon arrival she let me in, and as she appeared from behind the door I was unhappy, she wasn't what I would call ugly, but it was a dealbreaker for me, This was the first time I walked out and I wasn't sure how to handle it, so the second part of my question is this..

Protocol when walking out?

I made up a excuse, I didn't want to hurt her feelings, I left her $, what do you think is accetable? Did I overdo it?
 

FunSugarDaddy

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It's a tough call, it's a juggle between being polite and not wanting to hurt someone's feeling and being deceived. I say the later because that girl knows exactly what she's doing and if she's only displaying her good side, she has to know that she's not telling the whole story. That's happened to me more than once. But I personally think you did the right thing..give her a little something for her time, cut your losses and scram..I know many would just walk but I think that's too cold of an approach.
 

badbadboy

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Not a deal breaker for me at all.

We are what we are IMO.

Doggy and reverse CG are definite options though :D
 

methodman

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i walk out just as much as i stay. I wouldnt feel bad either.

girls in this indsutry have to realize that ever guy has his own taste, and not ever woman is gona be what there looking for.

i just walked out on (what i thought was going to be the girl of my dreams from her pictures) Amy Anderssen in montreal. When she aswered the door naked might i add, which her body is fantastic. But her voice, her ditsy questions and while to be honest, her face didnt really look like those gorgeous pictures on her website. We sat on the bed for a moment, and i said "im sorry i dont think i can do this". She asked me for 20 buks for the 15 minutes in advance fast booking. I thought, well since you were a girl i was so dreaming about meeting, sure 20 bucks....after thinking about it, her asking me for 20 buks was exactly one of the reasons why she wasn't going to be my cup of tea.

telling it like it is
I wouldve asked her for 100 bucks
Time wasted
and
gas money
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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You are not responsible for canceling an appointment with a SP if when you get there her face is so plain or unattractive that you are not willing to go through with the session even though her body had been attractive enough to get you to the door.
There are lots of SPs (even here on PERB) who I will click on their profile and maybe they show a sexy little image for their profile here, however when I get to their site and go through their pictures their face is just super plain and I'm like, no thanks. Though many of them realize they cant compete with the hotties and they will offer much lower rates, you know the girl offering full GFE for $180 an hour.
The same applies in person if she did not show her face in her pictures.

That being said a woman with even plain or less than good looks can be super sexy if she knows how. In 10 seconds of meeting her a good woman can have you wanting her even if physically she may not be up to snuff, attitude counts for a lot.

Now if you go to a session and she looks exactly like her pictures (face shown) but you decide to leave then yea, you should leave a little something, like $50.

For a plain girl to make it in this business today with all the stunning and exotic looking women available to us men, she needs to be a sexual dynamo.
A 6 in looks who is a 9 in service and 9 in attitude will keep me coming back over a 9 in looks but 6 in service and 6 in attitude.
 

mimi

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Maybe she doesn't feel ugly?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, definitely...but, some of the posts on here submitting pics of beautiful women have not been everyones' cup of tea.

I mean, if she thought she was ugly she would probably get surgery right?

Hell, in Korea they have cosmetic surgery as easily as going out for dinner and now it is a nation of beautiful people.
 

Miss*Bijou

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When the SP deliberately ensures that a prospective client doesn't know that her face is unattractive, she isn't going for repeat customers. She's going for as much money as she can get for as little service she can provide because she knows that it's a one time opportunity. ?

How do you know the sp is 'deliberately' trying to hide anything other than her identity?

How do you know she considers herself unattractive?

How do you know she is unattractive?

Every one has totally different tastes, and that same girl you find very unattractive may very well be beautiful and attractive to another person.

And most girls do not want to be identified so they do not show their face for this reason. So why do you assume she's deliberately trying to deceive or hide something? :confused:



I also look at it from a purely safety viewpoint. There are a certain number of clients that use SP's vulnerabilities to get bareback services that wouldn't otherwise be available. Since use of a condom doesn't ensure protection, having sex with a high risk SP is just stupid.

That is such an odd way of seeing things and a very odd conclusion to draw. As if one has to do with the other. So by your reasoning, an attractive sp (attractive to you) is not as vulnerable, so not likely to offer bareback services and therefore a low risk sp that is safer, correct?


I'm not even sure how to respond to that to be honest, it just seems like such a stretch... You go from a girl's face being unattractive (to you) meaning that she's likely diseased. :eek:

Does it work the same way for men?
What about non-sp women?
Or does that only apply to sp's?


Talk about contradicting all the talk about sp's unfairly being judged by society. You do a pretty good job too you know.:eek:


Edit: I just noticed Mimi's reply... I guess we thought the same thing when reading al's comments.
 

methodman

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Maybe she doesn't feel ugly?

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, definitely...but, some of the posts on here submitting pics of beautiful women have not been everyones' cup of tea.

I mean, if she thought she was ugly she would probably get surgery right?

Hell, in Korea they have cosmetic surgery as easily as going out for dinner and now it is a nation of beautiful people.
money wasted. sorry ive never met a sexy korean.

if maxim would turn her down shes ugly. thats what the standard for hotness should be

it puzzles me to see some guys call the sps they see as hot

when ive met them and theyre clearly not
 

Pillowtalk

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To the OP, well if you are expecting model cover babes and star quality looks, I am not sure why you would expect those women to be sps? Usually they are models and movie/tv stars right? Sps are typically above average or attractive women who are the added bonus of being sexually available (which for most guys is worth 50% of their attraction lol).

It comes down to personal preferences anyway -- if you are so picky as to start requiring or needing face pics before you can make a decision to see someone, and forget about the non-physical part of the experience, well, you are going to have some pretty pathetic experiences with some really good looking women lol. (I am reminded of the really tall enhanced 22 year old bleach blonde who the guys agree is pretty hot, but her attitude sucks, she has 2 dogs roaming around the apt and on the bed, she does not tidy up dog hair or dog smell, and smokes. Pretty enough, but few repeats?)
 

Papa Chongo

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Funny, I made of saying that she was not what I would call ugly!, I was unhappy, therefore unattracted! I understand the need for discression ! I am sure the ladies who have met me can attest that I'm a pretty decent guy!

I don't expect models! Of course not, just wanted to know what everyone thought about the situation, and my subsequent exit...

Thanks!!
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder in the sense that people have different tastes, However attractiveness is something everyone understands.
This is at its base a symmetrical face, which has been proven with many studies.

The original poster ran into a ButHerFace, which sounds rude, but when we pay $300 an hour, yes we can be rude.

Yes everyone is beautiful on the inside, yes people are special and wonderful.
However does that mean shes worth my $300 an hour based on her inner beauty?
It was the original posters money and he is free to decide who he wants to see and this girl was not acceptable.

Fact of the matter is some girls do hide their faces in their pictures because they are ButHerFaces, also if you notice many women with bodies that aren't super hot will show their faces because they have beautiful faces which attract guys.

The issue here is how bad does a girls face, which was hidden before you see her in person, have to be for a guy to walk out.
Not how lovely a person she is on the inside or how awesome her service is.

There are many women right here on PERB who are not only beautiful on the inside but the outside too (why else are we paying 300 an hour?). Plus they are great when it comes to service also, so why should any guy accept less?
I say walk out!
 
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Pillowtalk

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I think one thing guys forget to add is "to me". That sp or woman is not attractive to me. Because I think it is pretty obvious that she is attractive to many others, especially when you see her features praised in a review, but the next guy goes and says, for him, hell no. Except he doesn't say, "for me, no thanks" he chooses to claim that she is simply not attractive. Last time I checked, no one else can tell me what I can see as attractive, and having the debate in the first place is endless.

For the OP, I know I didn't answer your question, but really I think you did the right thing by giving her something for her time. I think the amount given should depend a bit on what the amount you were going to pay, still even just 50 is enough for the time you spent and would cover any costs she might have being there (since you don't know if she pays for her space like that or not) If you might have spent 400 plus, then the 100 is probably ok, if it was going to be 250 or less, 50 should be fine, and 150 or less, then 20? Other threads on this topic say just be polite, your reason is simply that you have changed your mind, apologize for taking her time, and present the amount. NExt time you will know to keep a smaller amount handy for this lol.

If you feel she has really deceived you in her advertising pictures or description or services, then I personally think that you should say something about that and leave by saying you are not going to stay and that no compensation should be made. For an sp who does not show face pics, most of them, and you simply are not attracted to her type, then it is not something she tried to hide or pretend about imo and she should be treated well even tho you are leaving.
 

vancity_cowboy

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Not a deal breaker for me at all.

We are what we are IMO.
^ what he said

if i can sense that an unattractive lady has a nice body, i will give her the chance to demonstrate her attitude and level of service by staying for the session. i've had some exceptional experiences with some ladies that others would call ugly - and gone back for more. on the other hand, there were experiences where i'd wished i had bolted too
 

methodman

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You can't see what you don't wanna see.
trust me
i wanna see
show me a hot korean or any other southeast asian
and ill have sex with her
its the only ethnic group ive never f**ked

btw nothing against korean culture or people. i just dont find the women attractive
 

mimi

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When I read the title of this thread I first thought it had to do with whether escorts would see really ugly guys! Ha Ha!

So, I don't know how to post pictures of beautiful Korean women, but, probably not important anyway....the point is:

We can all be beautiful with affordable cosmetic surgery...everyone on the planet can be attractive!

NO...the point is, 'handsome is as handsome does"
 
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