agency vs indenpendent

Well, in Victoria the agencies charge less than the Indy's do. But the level of service varies from girl to girl so you can't really make an argument for better service from Indy's or agencies.
In Vancouver from my reading, the agencies/Indy's charge around the same so not much difference at all. And I would assume the service levels would be the same as it always varies from provider to provider........
Now the MP's over there seem cheaper in price and some seem to offer more extensive extra's; like more BB services........
But I'm sure that the Vancouver guys can offer better insight into the scene over there than someone that hasn't even pooned in the big city yet......

lesson learnt...

aside from my regular indies,i usually stick to 2-3 agencies in town. went to one last night that has a regular rotation of victoria girls. never had any problems in the past, but last night was quite disastrous. got suckered by her delaying tactic that only left 5 mins of play time - from one very well reviewed provider no less.

i know i know, what a frigging idiot. and to top it off, i called madam to politely enquire whether she has ahd any problems in the past. i could barely get a word in. she was consistently cutting me off left right and center, lecturing me on the art of communication. all the indies i have seen thus far are very intuitive and responsive, and i was expecting the same.

i think my answer is quite clear.

wannaliquorbox said:

aside from my regular indies,i usually stick to 2-3 agencies in town. went to one last night that has a regular rotation of victoria girls. never had any problems in the past, but last night was quite disastrous. got suckered by her delaying tactic that only left 5 mins of play time - from one very well reviewed provider no less.

i know i know, what a frigging idiot. and to top it off, i called madam to politely enquire whether she has ahd any problems in the past. i could barely get a word in. she was consistently cutting me off left right and center, lecturing me on the art of communication. all the indies i have seen thus far are very intuitive and responsive, and i was expecting the same.

i think my answer is quite clear.

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I gather you don't want to say who the SP in question was?
(I think I know if it's the agency I think it is).

I prefer to have indies as my regulars, for the same reason that you sometimes get rushed with agencies that try to cram too many appointments into too short a time frame.
With Chrissy (my favorite SP who works for an agency) at BBC, she always sets the timer when she enters the room, and there's a 10 and 5 minute warning beep to help me plan the finish.

Indy for me

I prefer the independents, the time together is more relaxed with less clock watching. Agencies tend to call the SP about 10 minutes before the appointment ends and it really wrecks the mood for me, especially if were involved in some pleasurable act

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guys please do not PM me anymore about who it was i saw last night. already got a couple of nasty PMs. there is a reason why this wasnt put into the review section - the agency had been ok in the past. i was simply replying to the initial posting by way of an anecdote.

Thought you were going to just email her, not this BS

Yes we know who the "agency" was and yes now we know who the girl is - but really was there any question, being as we only have one visiting girl in at a time... hmmmm .

Ok - B, IM SO SORRY you felt that you didnt get a word in edge wise last night, I thought we were having a conversation , as in when you said - "I didnt feel comfortable telling her that I didnt want to talk - and wanted more action..." in reply I said, "maybe you should consider that many clients want different things - I know for a fact there is many times where Mia has offered 4+ MOSG without any issues, just a big sweet sweaty grin - as well there are MANY clients - who are just looking for conversation and light making out" - (which is what your words and actions told mia you were wanting) - I simply suggested that there might be some responsibility on you for not simply communicating your needs / desires at the time. I wasnt sure what I could do at this point, considering you had a full service session, with xtras like accompanied shower etc.- and I suggested that to prevent this in the future with ANY girl - that you need to talk to the person your in the midst of being intimate with - how could you get naked infront of a person - but not simply just tell them what your thinking ???

Im guessing 5min was slightly exaggerated... NOT to mention that you did get your nock out at 61 min after the session had started (wich was actually 10 min after you had been buzzed up) and you didnt actually end up leaving until 10 min after the nock out - which means a total of 80 min from walking in the door and out the door.

after chatting last night, you told me you didnt want to post a review, I said that was your prerogative, and I wouldnt try to talk you out of it - but suggested that if you didnt feel comfortable talking to mia in person - possibly a PM or email to her would be a good start, as I wasnt there, and there isnt really anything I was able to do to make you happy at this point, other then listen to your gripe - which I did for the first 5 min of our call, I just listend to everything you said, then replied with what I thought were valid points of view.

Ok - now Mia is an independent escort - as are all of the girls at V2V - we run things a little differntly over here - and thats why we have some of the best girls, at the lowest prices....

Way to defend ladies

Ok, I've spent some time with M1A and various Vic2Van ladies, sometimes things don't always go as you like but I have personally had nothing but good experiences. Guess that's why I keep going back

M1A is, well..., really really hot and always eager for fun

Harvi does like to talk but she does let you get your point across. I did have one experience where the advertising wasn't, well, lets say unclear and Harvi corrected the issue, this speaks a lot to her character and the ladies at Vic2Van.

Did I mention M1A is hot , and whats up with the 4+ MSOG, I could only handle 2, wish I had that guys stamina and M1A's of course

They fight back

It is not often that SP's choose to fight back.. and then the Agency continues with it... It was the way he felt since this is a review board of SP's and Not vica versa... I am not sure the SP in this case had to be that graffic especially when we had no idea which SP he was talking about.

Anyway, I see no point to an agency unless they are going to help out an unsatisfied customer which in this case they did not. Whatever happened to customer always being right?
Going with an Indy is a risk but at least all the money goes to the lady and not a driver and madame... It sounds like agency's are just as much of a risk as well in this case. I am thinking Harvi benefits in some way from the SP's service which make it an agency and which means the girl is working for an agency... The SP may go indy elsewhere but in this case it was not an indy situation...

Someone is not telling the truth or a huge miscommunication...

O-Shoes said:

Anyway, I see no point to an agency unless they are going to help out an unsatisfied customer which in this case they did not. Whatever happened to customer always being right?
Going with an Indy is a risk but at least all the money goes to the lady and not a driver and madame... It sounds like agency's are just as much of a risk as well in this case. I am thinking Harvi benefits in some way from the SP's service which make it an agency and which means the girl is working for an agency... The SP may go indy elsewhere but in this case it was not an indy situation...

Someone is not telling the truth or a huge miscommunication...

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Yes, giving money to independant girls means giving them all of the money. Being independant also means:
1.having to answer my own phone, which I can't do if I am in a call, so you cant always get through to me all the time
2. I have to pay for my own advertising
3. I have to pay my landlord for my incall location
4. I have to pay for gas and insurance in my car to go to outcalls
5. the list could go on....

I am independent, and when I come over here to work in Vancouver, I choose to work with, and not for, Harvi. I still get to charge whatever I want, and she is more than fair in the amount she asks from me. She also makes my life easier here, because she does all the phone work, advertises for me, provides very nice accomidations and incall location, and is just really nice to be around. She is also very respectful to the fact that I am independent, and get to take breaks whenever I want, etc.

My point being, just because a girl doesnt pay an immediate agency fee, she still doesnt get to keep all of the money she gets per call.

Regarding the whole 'issue' with customer dissatisfaction, yes, the customer is always right. If I go to McDonalds, really wanting extra cheese and no pickles on my burger, but dont tell anyone, what could I expect other than a burger with the regular amount of cheese and pickles on it? Should I eat it anyways, say thank you with a big amile on my face, and leave feeling ripped off? Should I call them afterwards complaining that they didnt give me what I wanted? No, I dont think that would show much integrity. Maybe if I ordered what I really wanted in the first place, took a bite to find that they messed up, I could have a valid complaint...I am sure you get my point.
So, you are right, I am not a mind reader. It just upset me at first because I really do love this job, and love giving it everything I have, and to be suggested of intentionally delaying a call with it in mind to not provide the best experience just kind of pulled the rug out from under me for a minute or two.

Finally, I know that I apparently have no place even responding to an opinion that was so vague, although obvious to me. I am sorry. It wont happen again.

Mia is always bad .in a good way!

I will say one thing ..Any one that books only an hour with Mia .. is nuts .. You can never get the full experience .. of Mia. with an in out .. wham bam .. thank you MIA
I have seen MIA a lot .. always two hr.. or more and some time it is just talk .. and a little fun .. other times . it is non stop action... But what ever our section turns out to be .. it usually has been up to me.. and what i ask for .... or i leave it up to MIA to suggest some fun things to do.. She is never short of some new and exciting .. suggestions.
And if there was ever a time when our section did not go that well .. MIA was always the first to be willing to make it up in some way..
Communication .. it can be my problem also .. it exists in relationships all the time .. but then that is why .. i seem Mia.. because in is a lot easier to talk to ... You girl.

puzzling

there is two sides to a story, i was simply relaying mine. my post was never intended to be a review, until others made it so. and harvi, watch the name B...thats is just playing dirty. btw, get a better timepiece, yours seems to be stretching time out quite a bit. this is quite disappointing as you have always been very congenial over the phone.

better...

case in point - after this fiasco, decided to treat myself yesterday. called up power lizzie who had disappeared on me for awhile. fortunately, she and other good indies are mind readers - i am too spoiled.

M1A said:

Yes, giving money to independant girls means giving them all of the money. Being independant also means:
1.having to answer my own phone, which I can't do if I am in a call, so you cant always get through to me all the time
2. I have to pay for my own advertising
3. I have to pay my landlord for my incall location
4. I have to pay for gas and insurance in my car to go to outcalls
5. the list could go on....

I am independent, and when I come over here to work in Vancouver, I choose to work with, and not for, Harvi. I still get to charge whatever I want, and she is more than fair in the amount she asks from me. She also makes my life easier here, because she does all the phone work, advertises for me, provides very nice accomidations and incall location, and is just really nice to be around. She is also very respectful to the fact that I am independent, and get to take breaks whenever I want, etc.

My point being, just because a girl doesnt pay an immediate agency fee, she still doesnt get to keep all of the money she gets per call.

Regarding the whole 'issue' with customer dissatisfaction, yes, the customer is always right. If I go to McDonalds, really wanting extra cheese and no pickles on my burger, but dont tell anyone, what could I expect other than a burger with the regular amount of cheese and pickles on it? Should I eat it anyways, say thank you with a big amile on my face, and leave feeling ripped off? Should I call them afterwards complaining that they didnt give me what I wanted? No, I dont think that would show much integrity. Maybe if I ordered what I really wanted in the first place, took a bite to find that they messed up, I could have a valid complaint...I am sure you get my point.
So, you are right, I am not a mind reader. It just upset me at first because I really do love this job, and love giving it everything I have, and to be suggested of intentionally delaying a call with it in mind to not provide the best experience just kind of pulled the rug out from under me for a minute or two.

Finally, I know that I apparently have no place even responding to an opinion that was so vague, although obvious to me. I am sorry. It wont happen again.

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Fair enough... I persoanlly would find it tough to be reviewed on a daily bases, so kudos to all the SP's reviewed here..

perbinvan said:

Did I mention M1A is hot , and whats up with the 4+ MSOG, I could only handle 2, wish I had that guys stamina and M1A's of course

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Geez, M1A is just barely getting warmed up after 2. After 4 she REALLY gets going

But, with her around, who can concentrate hard enough to actually count?