SP Commandments

gordd54

New member
Jan 7, 2008
13
0
0
I've been in this hobby for well over 11 years now. Maybe that doesn't make me an elder statesman, but I guess I'm not a newbie either. I remember well what I consider to be the "golden years" of this business, with long-since-departed SPs like Kisha at Swedish Touch (my angel from heaven), everybody's favourite Monique (Fantasy, Penthouse, etc.) and others who really seemed to care about their clients and the experience a guy had once the door closed on an MP room. There's a lot of new talent out there these days, but unfortunately the quality seems to be going down in terms of service. We've all seen firsthand accounts of this written on this board.

So, in the interests of keeping what I consider to be the world's most enjoyable hobby a pleasant experience for all concerned, may I humbly propose a short list of SP commandments:

1) DON'T COME TO WORK SICK. A huge one here. I recently had a session with a girl who started hacking and sneezing the moment she stepped in the room. (And no, it had nothing to do with my hygiene--I showered before I arrived and also before the session). The girl apologized several times for having a bad cold and sore throat, but not before she hacked all over her hands. Ladies, DON'T COME TO WORK SICK. This is an intimate business. SPs aren't working on transmissions or other inanimate objects, they are getting up-close-and-personal with another human being who just happens to be naked. No paying customer wants a girl coughing all over him or on her hands, which will end up touching strategic areas.
2) YOU MAY NOT DO GREEK (which is fine), BUT YOU SHOULD OFFER THE THREE STANDBYS: HJ, BJ, F/S. I realize everyone has their personal preferences, but things are getting ridiculous these days. I went into a studio a couple weeks ago, paid seven greens for a topless HJ only to be told by the SP that "I don't do HJs." Sorry, honey, you're in the wrong business. Someone who doesn't offer standard extras in this business? Come on. These three services are standard. Any other frills or unique services are up to the girl, but she should offer the three above or consider another line of work.
3) A BASIC COMPLETE INCLUDES A COMPLETE. This is not "All Ages Welcome" Massage, this is adult entertainment. For a girl to be tipped seven greens and then tell a client that only includes a back massage and nothing else is ludicrous. I remember only a few years ago when a HJ was the LEAST you could get--SPs practically insisted on it. Again, if you're not comfortable giving HJs, please change careers.
4) STICK TO POSTED HOURS OF OPERATION. I live northwest of Edmonton. One of my favourite studios is in the east end of town. I can't tell how my times I've called into a studio (you're on 118 Avenue, you know who you are) at, say, 8:30 to confirm hours and who is working, only to get there at 9:15 to find the place closed when I was told 11. Remember, this is a business. How well do you think RONA or Canadian Tire would do if store managers just decided on a whim to ignore posted hours and close at 7 or 6 or 3PM just because walk-in traffic was slow?
5)WHEN IT IS THAT TIME OF THE MONTH, REFER TO RULE #1. I sympathize with women, I can't imagine what that time of the month must be like (or pregnancy and labour, either). I am not criticizing anybody. But sorry, in this business you shouldn't be on the job if you aren't able to work. Take a couple of days off. Switch shifts with somebody. But nothing ticks off clients faster (and every SP who asks for "money up front" reminds us that this IS first and foremost a business) than a SP saying, "Oh, did you want f/s? Sorry, I can't. It's that time of the month."
6) IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO SEE A CLIENT, SAY SO. If a client comes in at 8:45 and you have an appointment at 9, DON'T try and cram a half-hour session into 15 minutes and rush him out the door. Guys who are paying hard-earned money HATE that.
7) DO CHANGE THE SHEETS BETWEEN CLIENTS. I mean, come on.
8) "TOPLESS" MEANS JUST THAT. This one's for you newbies. When a guy tips for a topless, that means French Riviera definition of topless--bare breasts and tan lines--not the Utah definition (taking off your blouse but keeping your bra on.)
9) DO NOT LEAVE THE ROOM MID-SESSION TO ANSWER THE DOOR AND GREET OTHER PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS. Your current client (the one lying face-down on the table in the altogether) hates that.
10) DON'T BE OFFENDED IF A CUSTOMER DOESN'T STAY OR ASKS TO MEET SOMEONE ELSE. I work in sales. I can't tell you how many customers I have shown products to who ultimately decide to "come back later" or "see what other stores are offering." To be sure, some stay and make a purchase. Others do not find what they are looking for and make a polite exit. That's the nature of business. If I didn't like that, I would get a different career. Ladies, not every client will be immediately attracted to you and decide to spend a significant sum of money for a session with you. That's the nature of the MP business. Not everybody is attracted to everyone else. I remember a couple of years back when I met a girl at the door and wasn't attracted to her. I made a very polite, respectful excuse about having to be somewhere, only to get a blast from her: "I have feelings too. You think you're better than me? You're judging me based on physical appearance? How DARE you?" Guess what, ladies. This IS about physical appearance and attraction. The whole point of this hobby is for clients to fulfill a fantasy about an intimate encounter with a woman they are attracted to but might not get to be with in the real world. If a client isn't attracted to a SP, why should he have to stay with her?
The response I have is this: If as an SP you aren't attracted enough to me that you would sleep with me for free if you met me in a bar, then you can't get upset if I'm not attracted enough to you to pay a significant sum of money for a session with you.

Overall, despite the hiccups, this hobby has brought a great deal of happiness to many men including myself. Here's to the SPs who are responsible for those great times.
 

wolverine

Hard Throbbing Member
Nov 11, 2002
6,385
9
38
E-Town
5)WHEN IT IS THAT TIME OF THE MONTH, REFER TO RULE #1. I sympathize with women, I can't imagine what that time of the month must be like (or pregnancy and labour, either). I am not criticizing anybody. But sorry, in this business you shouldn't be on the job if you aren't able to work. Take a couple of days off. Switch shifts with somebody. But nothing ticks off clients faster (and every SP who asks for "money up front" reminds us that this IS first and foremost a business) than a SP saying, "Oh, did you want f/s? Sorry, I can't. It's that time of the month."
Every SP I've seen has told me upfront that FS is off the menu during that "phase of the moon". They can still do non-FS type stuff like HJ and BJ.
 

SexyBoy

Looking for a Sexy Girl
Oct 2, 2006
2,044
1
0
Good post Gordd54!
 

jordan_

New member
Dec 5, 2007
218
0
0
I dont offer topless HJ's

I think its a money issue for girls, for me it is anyway.
we pay the same room fee no matter what we do in the room, so we could walk out with 100 or less...

Im sure she would have done HJ if it leaded to something.:)
 

jordan_

New member
Dec 5, 2007
218
0
0
And I know this has been done before
but just to counter your statement, a couple ones for men


(though not as lengthy as I am far too lazy to write the essay style post you did)


1)Always shower. I dont care if you had one at home.
2)Don't try to get me to lower my price, this is not a flea market, and it is insulting.
3)Don't ask me if I have a boyfriend and if he approves. How's your wife?(if applicable)
4)Don't bitch about us asking for money up front if you are not a regular. Girls get ripped off daily. sometimes even abused (minor or not) so guys can run out on them.
5)Don't try to SIT ON THE SHEETS after we changed them, or set your wet towel on it instead of ignoring me trying to take it from you. changing them twice is annoying.
6)Don't insist on extra's which you didn't pay for or don't intend to pay for. Kissing my lips (either ones) lightly, is still kissing, TONGUE OR NOT!

Im sure there are more.
Haha
:p
 

SexyBoy

Looking for a Sexy Girl
Oct 2, 2006
2,044
1
0
Hey that was pretty good too Jordan.

It is too bad the room rates are the same no matter what.

There was a time you could get a hj for a lot less then a fs session.

To be honest there was a time a bj costed less then a fs session and a time when fs just wasn't allowed for some ladies.
 

tomie

New member
Nov 17, 2007
64
0
0
(Edmonton)
addition to commandments.

Very well said Gordd: I would like to add few as well,
1. Spend full hour with client, please do not include his waiting and first shower time into the appointment time, (Acctually, clients should go 7 - 12 minutes before their appointment time, just to get full hour attention.. )
a. its appreciation that you are ontime, b. you can relax and take shower while she might be busy.

2. Please must take shower before or after the session, (i had 3 experience already, when an SP did not take shower after having session with me and rushed to see her next appointment) she had my dry saliva all over her body.
(It could be quite refreshing if they take even a fake shower right before the session in the same room)
3. Must brush your teeth. or atleast use mouth wash, we know you have to eat your lunch or snacks, mouthwash for especially who smoke. for God sake.
4.

I've been in this hobby for well over 11 years now. Maybe that doesn't make me an elder statesman, but I guess I'm not a newbie either. I remember well what I consider to be the "golden years" of this business, with long-since-departed SPs like Kisha at Swedish Touch (my angel from heaven), everybody's favourite Monique (Fantasy, Penthouse, etc.) and others who really seemed to care about their clients and the experience a guy had once the door closed on an MP room. There's a lot of new talent out there these days, but unfortunately the quality seems to be going down in terms of service. We've all seen firsthand accounts of this written on this board.

So, in the interests of keeping what I consider to be the world's most enjoyable hobby a pleasant experience for all concerned, may I humbly propose a short list of SP commandments:

1) DON'T COME TO WORK SICK. A huge one here. I recently had a session with a girl who started hacking and sneezing the moment she stepped in the room. (And no, it had nothing to do with my hygiene--I showered before I arrived and also before the session). The girl apologized several times for having a bad cold and sore throat, but not before she hacked all over her hands. Ladies, DON'T COME TO WORK SICK. This is an intimate business. SPs aren't working on transmissions or other inanimate objects, they are getting up-close-and-personal with another human being who just happens to be naked. No paying customer wants a girl coughing all over him or on her hands, which will end up touching strategic areas.
2) YOU MAY NOT DO GREEK (which is fine), BUT YOU SHOULD OFFER THE THREE STANDBYS: HJ, BJ, F/S. I realize everyone has their personal preferences, but things are getting ridiculous these days. I went into a studio a couple weeks ago, paid seven greens for a topless HJ only to be told by the SP that "I don't do HJs." Sorry, honey, you're in the wrong business. Someone who doesn't offer standard extras in this business? Come on. These three services are standard. Any other frills or unique services are up to the girl, but she should offer the three above or consider another line of work.
3) A BASIC COMPLETE INCLUDES A COMPLETE. This is not "All Ages Welcome" Massage, this is adult entertainment. For a girl to be tipped seven greens and then tell a client that only includes a back massage and nothing else is ludicrous. I remember only a few years ago when a HJ was the LEAST you could get--SPs practically insisted on it. Again, if you're not comfortable giving HJs, please change careers.
4) STICK TO POSTED HOURS OF OPERATION. I live northwest of Edmonton. One of my favourite studios is in the east end of town. I can't tell how my times I've called into a studio (you're on 118 Avenue, you know who you are) at, say, 8:30 to confirm hours and who is working, only to get there at 9:15 to find the place closed when I was told 11. Remember, this is a business. How well do you think RONA or Canadian Tire would do if store managers just decided on a whim to ignore posted hours and close at 7 or 6 or 3PM just because walk-in traffic was slow?
5)WHEN IT IS THAT TIME OF THE MONTH, REFER TO RULE #1. I sympathize with women, I can't imagine what that time of the month must be like (or pregnancy and labour, either). I am not criticizing anybody. But sorry, in this business you shouldn't be on the job if you aren't able to work. Take a couple of days off. Switch shifts with somebody. But nothing ticks off clients faster (and every SP who asks for "money up front" reminds us that this IS first and foremost a business) than a SP saying, "Oh, did you want f/s? Sorry, I can't. It's that time of the month."
6) IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO SEE A CLIENT, SAY SO. If a client comes in at 8:45 and you have an appointment at 9, DON'T try and cram a half-hour session into 15 minutes and rush him out the door. Guys who are paying hard-earned money HATE that.
7) DO CHANGE THE SHEETS BETWEEN CLIENTS. I mean, come on.
8) "TOPLESS" MEANS JUST THAT. This one's for you newbies. When a guy tips for a topless, that means French Riviera definition of topless--bare breasts and tan lines--not the Utah definition (taking off your blouse but keeping your bra on.)
9) DO NOT LEAVE THE ROOM MID-SESSION TO ANSWER THE DOOR AND GREET OTHER PROSPECTIVE CLIENTS. Your current client (the one lying face-down on the table in the altogether) hates that.
10) DON'T BE OFFENDED IF A CUSTOMER DOESN'T STAY OR ASKS TO MEET SOMEONE ELSE. I work in sales. I can't tell you how many customers I have shown products to who ultimately decide to "come back later" or "see what other stores are offering." To be sure, some stay and make a purchase. Others do not find what they are looking for and make a polite exit. That's the nature of business. If I didn't like that, I would get a different career. Ladies, not every client will be immediately attracted to you and decide to spend a significant sum of money for a session with you. That's the nature of the MP business. Not everybody is attracted to everyone else. I remember a couple of years back when I met a girl at the door and wasn't attracted to her. I made a very polite, respectful excuse about having to be somewhere, only to get a blast from her: "I have feelings too. You think you're better than me? You're judging me based on physical appearance? How DARE you?" Guess what, ladies. This IS about physical appearance and attraction. The whole point of this hobby is for clients to fulfill a fantasy about an intimate encounter with a woman they are attracted to but might not get to be with in the real world. If a client isn't attracted to a SP, why should he have to stay with her?
The response I have is this: If as an SP you aren't attracted enough to me that you would sleep with me for free if you met me in a bar, then you can't get upset if I'm not attracted enough to you to pay a significant sum of money for a session with you.

Overall, despite the hiccups, this hobby has brought a great deal of happiness to many men including myself. Here's to the SPs who are responsible for those great times.
 

Pleaser

New member
Mar 28, 2006
313
0
0
wow

This is why I find it difficult to stray from my regulars even though Iam sure there are other gems Iam missing.

Comments Like I do not provide HJ sessions irritate me. I mean come on!!!!!! yeah so the room rates the same but at 140 for a nude handjob you still walk out with a $100 to $115 in your pocket with a potential for repeat encounters if your service is good, thats pretty good cash and business.

Also you state that you want money up front with non regulars which Iam totally fine with, as you do not know me and for your safety you want to ensure I do not scam you (fair enough I understand that mentallity). However
How about me for example I do not know you and therfore want to see whether your service, attitude, and personality warrent a second visit or even if I want full service for my top dollars from you (make sence). Alot can be told from a first session and in any service or sales position this is the most important encounter, the first impression. I virtually always have my first session as a nude handjob therfore I can meet the girl, become comfortable with her and see her attitude. If things go well and we connect and her service is good I virtually always repeat and if she is exceptional, Shes a regular which generally always includes fullservice and tips.

Anyway I do not need to explain this as the girls I see understand this concept and always provide excellent service which I very much appreciate. To all the great girls thanks for good times.

Pleaser
 

doesun

"Gambling God"
Apr 10, 2007
132
0
0
2. Please must take shower before or after the session, (i had 3 experience already, when an SP did not take shower after having session with me and rushed to see her next appointment) she had my dry saliva all over her body.


OMFG Tomie your gonna make me gag....:eek:
 

jordan_

New member
Dec 5, 2007
218
0
0
This is why I find it difficult to stray from my regulars even though Iam sure there are other gems Iam missing.

Comments Like I do not provide HJ sessions irritate me. I mean come on!!!!!! yeah so the room rates the same but at 140 for a nude handjob you still walk out with a $100 to $115 in your pocket with a potential for repeat encounters if your service is good, thats pretty good cash and business.


Pleaser
You're right 100-115 is still a lot... to you.
but say its dead and you are our only client that day
we pay that...and a shift fee
and walk out with say like..60-75.
then Say I cab both ways...(even if I dont, its still annoying)
If it was someone who maybe I had talked to on here, I would do it for sure, to see if there was chemistry and all that, but not someone who just walks in off the street who Ive never seen around before or spoken to.

And I understand about not knowing her either, but if you decided you didn't want FS, and hadnt gotten that far yet, she should be fine with returning some of your funds, no?
Pretty awful if she reacted really poorly to that idea.:p
 

Pleaser

New member
Mar 28, 2006
313
0
0
Hi Jordan

Your comment on if its a dead day and Iam the only client doesent make a lot of sense to me personally.

If its a dead day I would assume you would welcome a session on just a HJ especially with a new client, as $75-100 clear and possibly a repeat client if the session goes well is more beneficial then no money and your valueable time wasted sitting in a studio. I can see on the contrary possibly if the studio was extremly busy and you were solid booked why you MAYchoose to cater clients who want full service as theres more potential money in the short term but again not always the case, as I am sure most ladies enjoy regulars much more then walkins just my experience.

I dont want to argue as Iam sure you do fine and have your regulars who really enjoy your time. I just feel that my money is better spent on girls who want my business regardless of what session I choose HJ or full service. Once chemistry is there and Iam a regular I always pay well and tip. Anyway thats just my opinion. The nice thing about your business is you can choose what you offer and what you charge? I wish you the best

Pleaser
 

Pleaser

New member
Mar 28, 2006
313
0
0
Again on your last point about staying for full service and then if chemistry is not there trying to get less service and pay less is not a good thing in my opinion

I would never do this but can only assume that this would ruin the mood atmosphere and create tension in the room when you start negotiating backwards in the sessions. I personally would rather negotiate for more service if the session is going well then for basically asking for refunds during our session. Again just my opinion which probably doesent mean alot LOL.

Pleaser
 

sajrcc

Member
Sep 26, 2004
186
0
16
50
edmonton
And I understand about not knowing her either, but if you decided you didn't want FS, and hadnt gotten that far yet, she should be fine with returning some of your funds, no?
Pretty awful if she reacted really poorly to that idea.:p
Jordon, I think you would have a problem with it. After all, you don't offer topless HJ's do you?
 

colossus

New member
Feb 18, 2008
164
0
0
Well said...

Hi Jordan

Your comment on if its a dead day and Iam the only client doesent make a lot of sense to me personally.

If its a dead day I would assume you would welcome a session on just a HJ especially with a new client, as $75-100 clear and possibly a repeat client if the session goes well is more beneficial then no money and your valueable time wasted sitting in a studio. I can see on the contrary possibly if the studio was extremly busy and you were solid booked why you MAYchoose to cater clients who want full service as theres more potential money in the short term but again not always the case, as I am sure most ladies enjoy regulars much more then walkins just my experience.

I dont want to argue as Iam sure you do fine and have your regulars who really enjoy your time. I just feel that my money is better spent on girls who want my business regardless of what session I choose HJ or full service. Once chemistry is there and Iam a regular I always pay well and tip. Anyway thats just my opinion. The nice thing about your business is you can choose what you offer and what you charge? I wish you the best

Pleaser
.....i couldn't agree more - especially if say this is the Jordan at Northiside studio in which business is not that busy. By not taking the basic HJ, she is hurting future repeat business, its a basic: its an over quick and easy, the SP is not 'worn out', and its a good ice breaker when seeing an SP for the 1st time
 

jordan_

New member
Dec 5, 2007
218
0
0
As I've stated in another thread,(so Ill try not to repeat myself too much) I don't see more than 4 clients a day. I refuse to because I don't want to be drained, and by the end of the night if you're #5 I know I won't be up to par.
I typically try to stop at 3.
but if I was fitting someone in who wanted a topless HJ, and Ive had say, 3, I have no problem with it. Does that make a little more sense?

And as I said, I would welcome it if it was the only client if it was someone with whom Id previously spoken to, and it depends on his demeanor all around as well.

When Im seeing a client who Im really enjoying myself with, who is typically very nice and charming, Then I don't mind doing it at all. But doing it with a guy off the street who walks in,isn't all that sweet or respectable, and isn't the type to be a regular for any reason other than you're the first girl he see's when he comes there, then I would rather not see anyone because $70 isn't worth it.

(The studio I work at also isnt in the best area of town, perhaps Im a wee bit jaded?)

Im not sure if that all came out properly, Im a little tired and heading to bed soon. Sorry if it doesn't make sense. haha.:p
 

jordan_

New member
Dec 5, 2007
218
0
0
.....i couldn't agree more - especially if say this is the Jordan at Northiside studio in which business is not that busy. By not taking the basic HJ, she is hurting future repeat business, its a basic: its an over quick and easy, the SP is not 'worn out', and its a good ice breaker when seeing an SP for the 1st time
No, this is not any Jordan you will find on a schedule at an edmonton MP...
just to clear it up.
;) :)
 

Mick Shagher

Member
Nov 20, 2005
2,583
3
0
On Top Of Her
So Where Are You Located?

No, this is not any Jordan you will find on a schedule at an edmonton MP...
just to clear it up.
;) :)
Hmmm? Yet you just said you work at a studio "that isn't in the best area of town" and you only post in the Lounge or in the Edmonton Section and do seem to know lots of what goes on in E-town. So for the sake of clearing things up, where would one find you if he wanted to stay for a session? Inquiring minds need to know!
 

jordan_

New member
Dec 5, 2007
218
0
0
Hmmm? Yet you just said you work at a studio "that isn't in the best area of town" and you only post in the Lounge or in the Edmonton Section and do seem to know lots of what goes on in E-town. So for the sake of clearing things up, where would one find you if he wanted to stay for a session? Inquiring minds need to know!
Im only on here for the purpose of enjoying the forum, Not to meet new clients. :p
 
Ashley Madison
Vancouver Escorts