CBJ vs BBJ
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it is one of those things
I have had a few BBBJ but most girls do covered.. there have be a number of debates on this every year.. For me it is all about who you see and how safe every one is .. it is up to the guy s to check themselve , and when in dought ,, go get tested and more so for the ladies. .
Here are some of the facts about our sex life .. many Sp.s have boyfriend . or friend with benefits.. that they have uncover sex with.. Now is he just seeing them or is he doing the same with other girls ( maybe guys).. I would say there is your unsafe part.. .How many of these guys get tested regularly .. and there other girl friend.
If the girls has some caring clients that care about others then they are a lot safer then there boyfriends.
AS for bbbj.. they have the same risk as daty... i do daty.. and most ladies allow it so we all ready are exchanging bodily fluids.., But if you get cbj and don't do daty and no kissing , then you are very safe.
It is up to every one to take care they are std free , and the ladies to be very observant.. and then we have to deal with the consequences of our risk tolerances.
As for bj's covered or not they don't do much for me .. maybe just have not found the girl that know how to please me in that department.
I don't envy the girls that have to suck on that condom or big dick any ways.
BJ's is a trust thing .. you allow this girl to put your dick in her mouth.. she trust you that you won't chock her ,k and you hope she won't have a seizure and bit it off
I have had a few BBBJ but most girls do covered.. there have be a number of debates on this every year.. For me it is all about who you see and how safe every one is .. it is up to the guy s to check themselve , and when in dought ,, go get tested and more so for the ladies. .
Here are some of the facts about our sex life .. many Sp.s have boyfriend . or friend with benefits.. that they have uncover sex with.. Now is he just seeing them or is he doing the same with other girls ( maybe guys).. I would say there is your unsafe part.. .How many of these guys get tested regularly .. and there other girl friend.
If the girls has some caring clients that care about others then they are a lot safer then there boyfriends.
AS for bbbj.. they have the same risk as daty... i do daty.. and most ladies allow it so we all ready are exchanging bodily fluids.., But if you get cbj and don't do daty and no kissing , then you are very safe.
It is up to every one to take care they are std free , and the ladies to be very observant.. and then we have to deal with the consequences of our risk tolerances.
As for bj's covered or not they don't do much for me .. maybe just have not found the girl that know how to please me in that department.
I don't envy the girls that have to suck on that condom or big dick any ways.
BJ's is a trust thing .. you allow this girl to put your dick in her mouth.. she trust you that you won't chock her ,k and you hope she won't have a seizure and bit it off
An SP's body can be a hazardous vehicle for STI's. Proceed with CAUTION!!!!
1) I'm sorry I have to chime in here. In theory it makes sense but one thing is if you are seeing an SP then remember that they may be doing it to other clients too if they don't openly advertise that as part of their service. I would wager to guess that, hypothetically, these folks who are weighing on whether or not to engage in higher risk circumstances with SPs don't know the medical history of those other clients the SP has seen before them. Also that most pooners "test" many SPs as variety is the spice of life. Now extrapolate that. True, trust is a major factor when seeing an SP and exploring more innate forms of fornication, but as a client how can you trust their other clients? This is one question I would really like answered.
2) Another thing I had to pop in to post is that a STI doesn't materialize out of thin air, they are transmitted from one person to another. The SP transmitting gonorrhea to a client got it from a client, that's assuming she isn't having casual sex outside of work or has a faithful partner.
3) This is the most important thing to understand. I mean it, really think about this next thing. What percentage of STI cases were contracted/transmitted with physical symptoms? I'd venture to guess that it's a very small percentage most likely having resulted from violence or intoxication. Do you see where I'm going with this? If there were physical symptoms (sores, oozing, odour, etc) the receiver would run the other direction. Most, and that's a high nuymber, STI contractions occur while ASYMPTOMATIC!!!
4) The BBBJ is NOT equivalent in terms of risk to DATY. I have my own theory in that the vagina is naturally acidic therefore providing an even bigger buffer for infection, mouth to pussy both with natural self cleaning properties is a pretty safe bet. I can see your rationalizing what works for one gender works to the other and from the SPs that do offer the service that since the mouth and saliva is antiseptic then it will kill all. If that was the case then we would not have had a Syphillis outbreak from a few years ago from uncovered oral on a man. Don't ignore that one.
This has been a message from the voice of reason. And now back to scheduled programming.
1) I'm sorry I have to chime in here. In theory it makes sense but one thing is if you are seeing an SP then remember that they may be doing it to other clients too if they don't openly advertise that as part of their service. I would wager to guess that, hypothetically, these folks who are weighing on whether or not to engage in higher risk circumstances with SPs don't know the medical history of those other clients the SP has seen before them. Also that most pooners "test" many SPs as variety is the spice of life. Now extrapolate that. True, trust is a major factor when seeing an SP and exploring more innate forms of fornication, but as a client how can you trust their other clients? This is one question I would really like answered.
2) Another thing I had to pop in to post is that a STI doesn't materialize out of thin air, they are transmitted from one person to another. The SP transmitting gonorrhea to a client got it from a client, that's assuming she isn't having casual sex outside of work or has a faithful partner.
3) This is the most important thing to understand. I mean it, really think about this next thing. What percentage of STI cases were contracted/transmitted with physical symptoms? I'd venture to guess that it's a very small percentage most likely having resulted from violence or intoxication. Do you see where I'm going with this? If there were physical symptoms (sores, oozing, odour, etc) the receiver would run the other direction. Most, and that's a high nuymber, STI contractions occur while ASYMPTOMATIC!!!
4) The BBBJ is NOT equivalent in terms of risk to DATY. I have my own theory in that the vagina is naturally acidic therefore providing an even bigger buffer for infection, mouth to pussy both with natural self cleaning properties is a pretty safe bet. I can see your rationalizing what works for one gender works to the other and from the SPs that do offer the service that since the mouth and saliva is antiseptic then it will kill all. If that was the case then we would not have had a Syphillis outbreak from a few years ago from uncovered oral on a man. Don't ignore that one.
This has been a message from the voice of reason. And now back to scheduled programming.
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And here I clicked on this thread thinking there could not possibly be anything that already had not been written or said on this subject 10 times already!......... and you go and prove me wrong!
That was pretty funny!
Nothing is foolproof. Trust can be compromised.
As long as PERB viewers are misinformed and posts are found, if I know it to be false, I will post correct information without hesitation. As much as many clients prefer BBBJ over CBj and SPs choosing to offer the service, it is their life to do as they please. In a pay for sex scenario, it isn't just one or two people contracting/transmitting an infection, as a working SP, the potential possibility of infecting another client by the same method in which they (SP) contracted the infection from initially, is quite high. I would think that it's a matter of public health safety given that most SPs see many clients not focusing on just one person (client).
Again, to contract the most common communicable disease/infection such as colds, flu, mono is fairly easy they can be transmitted/contracted through indirect contact. But an STI is quite acute in how they are transmitted, with exception to HPV and Herpes which are, and have been, transmitted by skin to skin contact. An STI is not a vector.
This issue will die when there’s a method found that will dramatically reduce the risk of transmission/contraction or when SPs wise up. As long as there are posts such as the one I responded to in this thread, the issue won’t disappear and/or people just aren't getting the message. But I do have a solution for you in the event another thread pops up on the subject:
DON’T OPEN THE THREAD or better yet DON’T POST drawing more attention to it.
I know, I know, Miss Bijou, it's hard to resist.
WOW! I can't help but think that your subtle post was directed at me...prove me wrong.And here I clicked on this thread thinking there could not possibly be anything that already had not been written or said on this subject 10 times already ......... and you go and prove me wrong
That was pretty funny
As long as PERB viewers are misinformed and posts are found, if I know it to be false, I will post correct information without hesitation. As much as many clients prefer BBBJ over CBj and SPs choosing to offer the service, it is their life to do as they please. In a pay for sex scenario, it isn't just one or two people contracting/transmitting an infection, as a working SP, the potential possibility of infecting another client by the same method in which they (SP) contracted the infection from initially, is quite high. I would think that it's a matter of public health safety given that most SPs see many clients not focusing on just one person (client).
Again, to contract the most common communicable disease/infection such as colds, flu, mono is fairly easy they can be transmitted/contracted through indirect contact. But an STI is quite acute in how they are transmitted, with exception to HPV and Herpes which are, and have been, transmitted by skin to skin contact. An STI is not a vector.
This issue will die when there’s a method found that will dramatically reduce the risk of transmission/contraction or when SPs wise up. As long as there are posts such as the one I responded to in this thread, the issue won’t disappear and/or people just aren't getting the message. But I do have a solution for you in the event another thread pops up on the subject:
DON’T OPEN THE THREAD or better yet DON’T POST drawing more attention to it.
I know, I know, Miss Bijou, it's hard to resist.
just an honest to god question not aimed at disrepecting or offending anyone. please excuse my ignorance.
do you think an SP would get offended if you were to ask to see a copy of their last test results? would it help if a client also brought in a copy to show that he was clean?
do you think an SP would get offended if you were to ask to see a copy of their last test results? would it help if a client also brought in a copy to show that he was clean?
that true.
I won't dispute or try to diminish what you are saying CLM because it is true,
I remember an add on aids about 10 years or more ago that show a lady at her night table and then it flashed through all the faces of the people that this person had contact with just by having sex with one of them.. a very powerful statement At the time i had not had sex ,and it gave me something to think a bout .
My one addition is that i believe escorts are safer then girls that go out get drunk , party and have one night stands . with some cute guy that they don't even know ..because very often it happens with out condoms and some time more then one guy that night..I am not making this up ether.
And how often do they even think of getting check or think of not having sex with some one.
An lady that is an escort does say no and is more disserning , the good one it is not all ways about the money..and they do there best to make it safer for everyone.
But std's still happen and go unnoticed.
I won't dispute or try to diminish what you are saying CLM because it is true,
I remember an add on aids about 10 years or more ago that show a lady at her night table and then it flashed through all the faces of the people that this person had contact with just by having sex with one of them.. a very powerful statement At the time i had not had sex ,and it gave me something to think a bout .
My one addition is that i believe escorts are safer then girls that go out get drunk , party and have one night stands . with some cute guy that they don't even know ..because very often it happens with out condoms and some time more then one guy that night..I am not making this up ether.
And how often do they even think of getting check or think of not having sex with some one.
An lady that is an escort does say no and is more disserning , the good one it is not all ways about the money..and they do there best to make it safer for everyone.
But std's still happen and go unnoticed.
Not a bad idea, in theory and I practice it as well (I provide my test results on request), but there still is a period of time where the results can be skewed if the SP or client has had any sex between the test and the time the results are in. I don't know many SPs that would place a moratorium on services unless to reduce the type of service by contact ie. a massage and HJ only or with CBJ.
There is also their previous clients activities to consider, it's not just left to the SP and you, the client. And it's not likely the SP will have their clients health/testing information on hand to provide to you or possibly know what they have been doing before/after they've seen that particular SP.
Most certaintly the best advice!
when in doubt let the Health Nurse sort it out
Good call Mod, good call
when in doubt let the Health Nurse sort it out There is a sticky on BBBJs in the Health Watch section.
Still, CLM has some good points and is actively trying to educate folks, so it doesn't hurt to say it all again, especially as the current trend does seem to be towards unsafe choices. The only error she made is in thinking that Ms.Bijou was directing a comment at her, since MB clearly was quoting maxx50 in her post.
Still, CLM has some good points and is actively trying to educate folks, so it doesn't hurt to say it all again, especially as the current trend does seem to be towards unsafe choices. The only error she made is in thinking that Ms.Bijou was directing a comment at her, since MB clearly was quoting maxx50 in her post.
I only see providers that provide completely safe services, and by this I mean absolutely no fluid exchange. It's not just that I want to be safe, I only want to see a provider that has not exchanged body fluids with any of her clients, not just me
Some people on this board have ridiculed this as being freakishly over-careful. I don't think so. I've read big ads in newspapers and magazines that say that over 70% if the population have herpes and can transmit when they have no symptoms. Jesus. I'm in the other 30%. I'd like to keep it that way.
Some people on this board have ridiculed this as being freakishly over-careful. I don't think so. I've read big ads in newspapers and magazines that say that over 70% if the population have herpes and can transmit when they have no symptoms. Jesus. I'm in the other 30%. I'd like to keep it that way.
Holy shit. Think what you want, if I had something to direct at you at I would have. How the hell did that even become about you?
Really, I don't get it. I saw CBJ vs BBBJ and thought 'oh geez. here we go again.' then i got to Maxx' post and the last line made me LMAO. Then I clickled 'QUOTE' and the rest is history. When I was done laughing and posting, I noticed 'oh my, i missed CLM reply, I guess I'll read that now. Then I went on with my day.
Now I'm back and I have no idea what you're talking about because it would be hard for it to be directed at you when it is about a post I had not even read yet! I'm not that good, not yet anyway.
It was as simple and non-subtle as they come. He made a comment I thought was funny. I commented. End of story. Sheesh.
I don't think you're freakishly over-careful. I think you know what you're comfortable with (or not comfortable with..) and that commands anyone's respect IMHO. And that goes for anyone who is honest with themselves and comfortable with their decision.
However I do not want to burst your bubble but your choice of example (herpes) was not the best to use as I do not believe any exchange of fluids is needed for transmission, and skin-to-skin contact is all it takes. Just wanted to point it out for others who may not know and may assume that by avoiding exchanging fluids they are no longer at risk. They would be eliminating risks for other sti's, but not entirely eliminating risks of herpes. Just to clarify.
(see Health forum for detailed info)And just to be clear and so there are no misunderstandings, this post was not in any way, subtle or not, directed at anyone other than Pacman1.
And this would be me make making a joke - one meant for laughing at, not getting offended by. Thank you.Good points we all make choices.
We all have are own choices to make and risks we are willing to take, so the risks should be known and accepted if something happens to a personI don't think you're freakishly over-careful. I think you know what you're comfortable with (or not comfortable with..) and that commands anyone's respect IMHO. And that goes for anyone who is honest with themselves and comfortable with their decision.
However I do not want to burst your bubble but your choice of example (herpes) was not the best to use as I do not believe any exchange of fluids is needed for transmission, and skin-to-skin contact is all it takes. Just wanted to point it out for others who may not know and may assume that by avoiding exchanging fluids they are no longer at risk. They would be eliminating risks for other sti's, but not entirely eliminating risks of herpes. Just to clarify.
And just to be clear and so there are no misunderstandings, this post was not in any way, subtle or not, directed at anyone other than Pacman1.
Don't worry bubble not burst... I used herpes to illustrate just how rampant std's can be, and that there doesn't need to be anything physically apparent for them to be transmitted (cells shedding with no visible sores).
Given this, would a provider really want to give bbbj to a client that has it? Even if they think transmission risk is low. Does she really think he would tell her? Would a client really want to provide daty to someone they knew had herpes? DFK with someone that's hep positive? DFK with someone that just gave a bbbj earlier.... and so on, and so on....
Because the thing is, you don't know who has what, or who they saw that has what.
I know that this has all been beat to death on this board, and I didn't think I was really adding anything new, except to distinguish (and the original poster might want to think about this) that not only do I want completely covered services, it's important to me to connect with providers that ONLY provide covered services to others. Because like one of the posters pointed out, when you see someone, you expose yourself to every other person they have seen.
So, why ask someone to cover up for you, if they don't for everybody else? If that's someone's risk tolerance, then they should select someone that always covers up in the first place.
We've been through this before!
Lots of links & past discussions on this topic, but...
while you were busy championing your 'opinon' as fact, your 'acidic' Pussy needs to see a Gynecologist - fast!
STD Risks of BBBJ vs. DATY...
Lots of links & past discussions on this topic, but...
while you were busy championing your 'opinon' as fact, your 'acidic' Pussy needs to see a Gynecologist - fast!
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Too much funnySTD Risks of BBBJ vs. DATY...
Lots of links & past discussions on this topic, but...
while you were busy championing your 'opinon' as fact, your 'acidic' Pussy needs to see a Gynecologist - fast!
